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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #120 on: July 11, 2016, 04:28:36 PM »

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This is where the Danny Ainge Fan Club comes by to defend a miserable, miserable wasted 1st round draft pick.
He will blossom this year. He is a stroke you can't teach.
Just like Gerald Green and Kedrick Brown, right?
They Don't shoot the ball like he does. Have you watched him shoot in practice. It maybe work ethic but he can shoot and he is getting better at getting to his spot on D. if E'Twaun Moore can make it in this league surely James Young can and will.
I heard Dwight Howard is an 82% FT shooter in practice.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #121 on: July 11, 2016, 04:31:06 PM »

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If Young was a baseball player, he would be at Double A learning the craft and considered a premier prospect.  Unfortunately for him, the NBA doesn't work that way.

I think he is still ahead of Hunter due to his stroke and overall athleticism. Young still might learn the game but Hunter is not going to become more athletic.  And yes, I do think natural shooting ability (stroke) has value.  I hope we are able to keep him one more year.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2016, 04:47:10 PM »

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This is where the Danny Ainge Fan Club comes by to defend a miserable, miserable wasted 1st round draft pick.
He will blossom this year. He is a stroke you can't teach.
Just like Gerald Green and Kedrick Brown, right?
They Don't shoot the ball like he does. Have you watched him shoot in practice. It maybe work ethic but he can shoot and he is getting better at getting to his spot on D. if E'Twaun Moore can make it in this league surely James Young can and will.
I heard Dwight Howard is an 82% FT shooter in practice.
I would take James Young with an open three over Dwight Howard for a FT to win a game any day. Bad comparison. Just like this board said He would not be able to play in Summer league to me earlier and look where he is. DA is keeping him this year so the Waive thing is not going to happen.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2016, 05:56:43 PM »

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If Young was a baseball player, he would be at Double A learning the craft and considered a premier prospect.  Unfortunately for him, the NBA doesn't work that way.

I think he is still ahead of Hunter due to his stroke and overall athleticism. Young still might learn the game but Hunter is not going to become more athletic.  And yes, I do think natural shooting ability (stroke) has value.  I hope we are able to keep him one more year.
I'm not sure Young is a better athlete than Hunter right now.  Maybe in an empty gym, a straight line, or a dunk contest.  But not in a basketball game.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2016, 06:17:39 PM »

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They Don't shoot the ball like he does. Have you watched him shoot in practice

This simply does not matter if you can't do it in a game.  Coaches will smell you out eventually.   You could make every shot in practice.    It will get you into a game and if you stink, your coming out if you do not get results when it matters.

CanYoung  shoot with defense on him or is he a good H-O-R-S-E player? We need to find that out.   He is not showing he can play defense and do other things which is a knock against him.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2016, 06:35:38 PM »

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if i remember hunter did really well in agility drill--

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2016, 07:09:05 PM »

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If Young was a baseball player, he would be at Double A learning the craft and considered a premier prospect.  Unfortunately for him, the NBA doesn't work that way.

I think he is still ahead of Hunter due to his stroke and overall athleticism. Young still might learn the game but Hunter is not going to become more athletic.  And yes, I do think natural shooting ability (stroke) has value.  I hope we are able to keep him one more year.

Young has hit .334% of his threes over 4 games in summer league but done nothing else well.

Hunter is currently shooting 55% from 3 in three summer league games but has done nothing else well.

Currently, I'd keep Hunter.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2016, 07:18:50 PM »

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It seems like most fans like to just bash certain guys to me.  i like the way ainge drafts.  There are players in the league that put up numbers  but are pretty limited players.  I actually enjoy watching some of these guys develop, I turn on talk radio and the focus is on something totally else.  It's a stars league but the Durant, Durant, Durant stuff won't stop.

Philly was trying to unload a guy like Covington on us who is not a guy who would help us.

Young's talent I can see it. Whether he will ever grow into that who knows.  I'd rather root for him to do that though because it's good for us.  He has the ability to be a better player.

Ainge does some pretty deep scouting.

He does have the ability to be a better player. But unfortunatly he's lost on defense and can't even revover due to his lateral quickness.
Yabusele get lost on defense many times, but he always managed to recover.
In Boston, we prioritize defense first for any rookie who wants to play. We can agree or not to that (that's another debat) but that's how it is right now.
This is not the problem. He has excellent athleticism but unlike many of our favorite shooting guards that needed 4 years of college and 3-4 years in the NBA just to show up on anybodys radar....Young has the stroke and ability to hit 42-45% from NBA 3 point range. He shot almost 45% from NBA range and hit almost 4 3's a game during his first season in the D-league

I believe Young has way too much potential as a shooting guard and it would be unbelievably stupid to waive him. Especially if we end up doing a trade for AB, Young can step in as a backup and begin learning from 20mpg.

The kid can shoot, but he misses wide open 3pt shots when playing in the NBA.....he needs either 20mpg or more time to develop. Ask DA why he would rather have USURPER'S like ET and BB than develop potential STAR players and get the right draft pick.

I just want to point out that 18 players shot better than 40% from three in the D-league last year, of those guys the only player I remember playing in an actual NBA game was Jimmer Fredette.  The D-League isn't exactly known for it's perimeter defense.

Re: Waive Young
« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2016, 08:53:56 PM »

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Young has hit .334% of his threes over 4 games in summer league but done nothing else well.
His stat page is broken. He's made 8 of 13 threes over 4 games -- but no, he hasn't done anything else well. Or even passable.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #129 on: July 11, 2016, 09:27:26 PM »

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If Young was a baseball player, he would be at Double A learning the craft and considered a premier prospect.  Unfortunately for him, the NBA doesn't work that way.

I think he is still ahead of Hunter due to his stroke and overall athleticism. Young still might learn the game but Hunter is not going to become more athletic.  And yes, I do think natural shooting ability (stroke) has value.  I hope we are able to keep him one more year.

Young has hit .334% of his threes over 4 games in summer league but done nothing else well.

Hunter is currently shooting 55% from 3 in three summer league games but has done nothing else well.

Currently, I'd keep Hunter.

If i had to choose it would be Hunter but i would rather waive both and take a chance on someone else, seriously doubt if either will ever make it into a rotation.
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Re: Waive Young
« Reply #130 on: July 12, 2016, 09:35:01 AM »

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If Young was a baseball player, he would be at Double A learning the craft and considered a premier prospect.  Unfortunately for him, the NBA doesn't work that way.

I think he is still ahead of Hunter due to his stroke and overall athleticism. Young still might learn the game but Hunter is not going to become more athletic.  And yes, I do think natural shooting ability (stroke) has value.  I hope we are able to keep him one more year.

Young has hit .334% of his threes over 4 games in summer league but done nothing else well.

Hunter is currently shooting 55% from 3 in three summer league games but has done nothing else well.

Currently, I'd keep Hunter.

If i had to choose it would be Hunter but i would rather waive both and take a chance on someone else, seriously doubt if either will ever make it into a rotation.
Both of them will survive this year. Hunter is a smart he will find his way and Young has gifts if he tries Hard he can play in then NBA. Time will tell with them both. DA has usually nailed his guard picks.
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