Rumored asking Price for Omer Asik

[kozlodoev]

Will he get to take the shots that work for him? He isn't a catch and shoot guy.

I think he does just fine with catch and shoot. He's bailed us out a good number of times when someone tosses him a hot potato with little time left on the shot clock. I think he may do just fine for 5 mpg as the backup SG. And while we won't know about this until Rondo comes back, I think it's worth the risk.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Ainge didn't want to pay Perkins 9 million per year. I have a hard time believing Ainge is interested in paying Asik (who looks like a more mobile Kendrick Perkins) 15 million next year, and then playing with fire during his free agency in 2015. Asik will probably need to be paid over 10 million per year.

I would rather hold the picks, cap space etc and try to land a Monroe, Cousins, M Gasol type of center if things sour on their current teams.

i'm down wit dat!

[gar]

Asik is OK; but the Celtics need real impact players. Danny can't afford to nibble. He needs to be patient and go for the jugular. An Athletic big is the way to go w/ sullinger already in the fold.

Olynyk is too slow.

[beklog]

^^ I'll be patient with KO
he's slow, but he's very crafty player can create his own shots inside/outside the paint

[Mr October]

How good will Faverani and Olynyk be in 2 or 3 years? The Celtics won't be contending for at least 2-3 years. Why bother spending 15 million next year, followed by a 10-12 million per year deal on Asik, when the Celtics can just develop the current bigs for a fraction of the cost?

I think that it's far from a given that any of them will ever be as good as Asik is right now.

Using the same logic, we can get rid of Rondo's $10 million  contract right away, because we can just develop Jordan Crawford instead.

Rondo is a regular all star, and top 5 at his position. He is possibly good enough to be a second best player on a contender. You build around pieces like that.

I would be careful when building a team full of "middle class" players making between the MLE and the max. That is how you kill your cap space and get stuck in the mediocre zone.

Asik is a piece you add when you already have a 50 win team and a couple all stars and are looking for that final piece to go over the top. Until then I would stay away from his 15 million dollar price tag. Lets let Houston continue to enjoy that poison pill that doesn't want to play for them.

[Mr October]

I would also be hesitant to pay a role payer big time money when he refused to play for a team when asked to come off the bench.

That is not behavior I want in a Boston Celtic.

[Smitty77]

What does this mean (from Hoopshype rumors page:

Tom Moore: Note re: #Sixers-Rockets trade rumor: Houston would have to involve a third team to make it happen under cap rules. Tough to do. Twitter @tmoore76ers - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.sBlg41Ta.dpuf

What help do they need??

Can we be of assistance??

Smitty77

[moiso]

I would also be hesitant to pay a role payer big time money when he refused to play for a team when asked to come off the bench.

That is not behavior I want in a Boston Celtic.

Who did this?  Not Asik.  Asking for a trade is not refusing to play.

[indeedproceed]

What does this mean (from Hoopshype rumors page:

Tom Moore: Note re: #Sixers-Rockets trade rumor: Houston would have to involve a third team to make it happen under cap rules. Tough to do. Twitter @tmoore76ers - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.sBlg41Ta.dpuf

What help do they need??

Can we be of assistance??

Smitty77

I think it means the trade is no longer 'Asik-Young' , but got bigger. Otherwise the salaries match. I'm sure it's been said before but the whole 'Asik is owed 15 million next year' thing does not apply to cap figures. It applies to actual money paid by the owner due to Morey exploiting a loophole in the CBA. In actual money, HOU paid Asik 5 mil and change last season, and something like that this season, and makes up the difference in 2015. In terms of cap hit, the money is spread equally over 3 years.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I would also be hesitant to pay a role payer big time money when he refused to play for a team when asked to come off the bench.

That is not behavior I want in a Boston Celtic.

Who did this?  Not Asik.  Asking for a trade is not refusing to play.

This is a quote from Marc Stein via ProBasketballTalk
November 17, 2013

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/17/report-rockets-certain-to-trade-omer-asik/

The center was scratched from Saturday’s home game against Denver essentially because he’s so unhappy with his new role that he’s in no state to play. Word is Asik has been asking the Rockets pretty much once a week, since Dwight Howard‘s arrival in July, to please trade him elsewhere. And now losing his starting spot, on top of what was already a reduced role, has clearly knocked the 27-year-old back.

Sources with knowledge of the situation told ESPN.com that Asik was challenged by coaches and teammates this week for not being “engaged” in the wake of the lineup change, which took effect when Asik was moved to the bench for Wednesday’s game in Philadelphia. And he hasn’t played since the challenge, logging zero minutes Thursday night in New York while in uniform and not even dressing against the Nuggets.

He technically quit. I dont want anything to do with Asik from now on.

Hate him all you want, but when Melo asked for a trade he still played his behind off. This guy got relegated to the bench and got a reduced role and all of a sudden was in "no state to play". I get that it's disgruntling to lose your job to someone. But that's no excuse to being unprofessional.

And I was at one point willing to give a first rounder for him because he is a game changer on defense. But he quits, so, pass. If gets involved in a some sort of similar thing, he'll quit again.

I agree with Monroe. Getting him is a start. I'd like to pair him with a defensive big (Embiid)? We got the assets to grab a player like that to help Monroe defensively.

[kraidstar]

c's are a rebuilding/developing team, not a contender looking for the final piece. no way do i give up draft picks and young players for roleplayers like asik. that is what teams like the thunder or pacers should be doing, not us.
however, i could certainly see the c's being a 3rd team to facilitate such a trade.