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Re: The prime years of elite NBA point guards.
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2013, 12:54:46 PM »

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There is the possibility that Rondo will never be the same player he was before his injury, that he will spend the rest of his career battling his health, and that he will start to rapidly deteriorate, with his best years behind him.  It's possible.  Injuries are a nasty thing, and we've seen them cut short the careers of many a promising player. 

It's also possible that he will recover from his knee surgery and have another seven years as productive--or more--as his first seven.  There is a good amount of precedence for good to great point guards having their best years from their late twenties into their mid thirties.

So, for those of you who want to take the cynical approach and say that the former is more likely, go ahead.  I understand wanting to take the negative view and guard expectations against disappointment. 

I'm going to go ahead and take the more optimistic view that says the evidence shows that there are elite level players (even ones who suffered major injuries mid-career) who have gone on to have had lots of success later in their career.  And, I expect Rajon Rondo to follow that path.
the thing with Rondo is this wasn't a one time fluke injury.  Rondo is always getting hurt. He hasn't come close to a full season in any of the last 3.  And while his assists have been up those 3, they are also his 3 worst shooting years since his rookie year.

If I had to anticipate Rondo's next 7 years, I would say he will miss 10-15 games a year, and be about a 12/9/4 player.  Quite good, but not build a team around good.
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Re: The prime years of elite NBA point guards.
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2013, 01:15:15 PM »

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There is the possibility that Rondo will never be the same player he was before his injury, that he will spend the rest of his career battling his health, and that he will start to rapidly deteriorate, with his best years behind him.  It's possible.  Injuries are a nasty thing, and we've seen them cut short the careers of many a promising player. 

It's also possible that he will recover from his knee surgery and have another seven years as productive--or more--as his first seven.  There is a good amount of precedence for good to great point guards having their best years from their late twenties into their mid thirties.

So, for those of you who want to take the cynical approach and say that the former is more likely, go ahead.  I understand wanting to take the negative view and guard expectations against disappointment. 

I'm going to go ahead and take the more optimistic view that says the evidence shows that there are elite level players (even ones who suffered major injuries mid-career) who have gone on to have had lots of success later in their career.  And, I expect Rajon Rondo to follow that path.
the thing with Rondo is this wasn't a one time fluke injury.  Rondo is always getting hurt. He hasn't come close to a full season in any of the last 3.  And while his assists have been up those 3, they are also his 3 worst shooting years since his rookie year.

If I had to anticipate Rondo's next 7 years, I would say he will miss 10-15 games a year, and be about a 12/9/4 player.  Quite good, but not build a team around good.

That's fine, but if I say that I expect him to miss about 5-10 games per year and be about a 14/12/6 player over the course of that time period, then it's a totally different story.

   








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Re: The prime years of elite NBA point guards.
« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2013, 06:17:32 PM »

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There is the possibility that Rondo will never be the same player he was before his injury, that he will spend the rest of his career battling his health, and that he will start to rapidly deteriorate, with his best years behind him.  It's possible.  Injuries are a nasty thing, and we've seen them cut short the careers of many a promising player. 

It's also possible that he will recover from his knee surgery and have another seven years as productive--or more--as his first seven.  There is a good amount of precedence for good to great point guards having their best years from their late twenties into their mid thirties.

So, for those of you who want to take the cynical approach and say that the former is more likely, go ahead.  I understand wanting to take the negative view and guard expectations against disappointment. 

I'm going to go ahead and take the more optimistic view that says the evidence shows that there are elite level players (even ones who suffered major injuries mid-career) who have gone on to have had lots of success later in their career.  And, I expect Rajon Rondo to follow that path.
the thing with Rondo is this wasn't a one time fluke injury.  Rondo is always getting hurt. He hasn't come close to a full season in any of the last 3.  And while his assists have been up those 3, they are also his 3 worst shooting years since his rookie year.

If I had to anticipate Rondo's next 7 years, I would say he will miss 10-15 games a year, and be about a 12/9/4 player.  Quite good, but not build a team around good.

  His shooting isn't getting worse, he's just taking more outside shots and fewer inside shots. That's something that will keep him healthier for a longer time.

Re: The prime years of elite NBA point guards.
« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2013, 09:06:47 PM »

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One of my biggest concerns with Rondo is his health and his style of play.
He'll be the main man and he'll have to drive to the hoop and take many more hits and twists...all that on his knees and joints worries me.
Combine that with how much defenses will be targeting him and collapsing on his dribble penetration and it will be brutal on his thin frame.
He's almost to tough for his own good and it worries me.
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