Danny on Doc

[j804]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ainge-goes-public-rivers-release-cs


The meeting with the press was telling. He thought he had sold Doc on going through the rebuild and he says maybe Doc sold him on believing that.

When we signed Doc to the highest-paid coaching contract in the NBA a couple years ago, we knew the ages of our players and we knew that we would be at a phase - maybe last year, maybe this year, maybe next year - that a time to rebuild would be in store. We talked about that. At that time before it hit him, he was all on board. I thought I did a very good sales job on Doc, at that time. Maybe he did a sales job on me (chuckle).

Water under the bridge but for all ya'll that thought Doc was trying to help the Celts you can go eat a sandwich now. Made no sense because it simply wasn't true.
Looks like (just my opinion) Danny was blindsided and he said he wanted 2 picks not 1 but took 1 for Doc

"I was asking for two picks for myself. They weren't going to do that, so we stuck with one for Doc (chuckle).

He's not looking like a guy who's sinister plan is right on schedule. That's just my opinion. Doc was wanting to keep his W/L on the up swing and not the down. That's understandable but he shoulda talked with Bostons media before L.A.'s  Say goodbye and then say hello.

Anyway...

Danny apparently was not "in" on any of this besides trying to get what he could from it which is his job.

He didn't mean 2 picks for Doc, he was joking about how nobody's safe and can get moved that for himself it'd cost 2 picks. I took it like that at least. Lol

LOL?
You know what he meant? How do you get the nobody's safe outta that? I am more confused about what you said than you are about my words...I can guarantee that. I have NO idea how you extrapolated what you did...was their another press conference where he said nobody was safe for the price of 2 picks.

lol.....o.k.

Ha. Youre crazy if you think Danny was seriously wanting/demanding 2 picks for Doc. The second 1st was on the table w/ DJ for KG. His joke went right over your head.

[alley oop]

He thought he had sold Doc on going through the rebuild and he says maybe Doc sold him on believing that.

That's the more plausible.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

http://www.csnne.com/blog/celtics-talk/ainge-goes-public-rivers-release-cs


The meeting with the press was telling. He thought he had sold Doc on going through the rebuild and he says maybe Doc sold him on believing that.

When we signed Doc to the highest-paid coaching contract in the NBA a couple years ago, we knew the ages of our players and we knew that we would be at a phase - maybe last year, maybe this year, maybe next year - that a time to rebuild would be in store. We talked about that. At that time before it hit him, he was all on board. I thought I did a very good sales job on Doc, at that time. Maybe he did a sales job on me (chuckle).

Water under the bridge but for all ya'll that thought Doc was trying to help the Celts you can go eat a sandwich now. Made no sense because it simply wasn't true.
Looks like (just my opinion) Danny was blindsided and he said he wanted 2 picks not 1 but took 1 for Doc

"I was asking for two picks for myself. They weren't going to do that, so we stuck with one for Doc (chuckle).

He's not looking like a guy who's sinister plan is right on schedule. That's just my opinion. Doc was wanting to keep his W/L on the up swing and not the down. That's understandable but he shoulda talked with Bostons media before L.A.'s  Say goodbye and then say hello.

Anyway...

Danny apparently was not "in" on any of this besides trying to get what he could from it which is his job.

He didn't mean 2 picks for Doc, he was joking about how nobody's safe and can get moved that for himself it'd cost 2 picks. I took it like that at least. Lol

LOL?
You know what he meant? How do you get the nobody's safe outta that? I am more confused about what you said than you are about my words...I can guarantee that. I have NO idea how you extrapolated what you did...was their another press conference where he said nobody was safe for the price of 2 picks.

lol.....o.k.

Ha. Youre crazy if you think Danny was seriously wanting/demanding 2 picks for Doc. The second 1st was on the table w/ DJ for KG. His joke went right over your head.

Not my point about how this went down and how much Danny was the initiator in any way towards getting Doc outta Boston to save money like some speculated. Some folks were implying that Doc was doing all this for Danny...who apparently woulda been fine if Doc stayed long enough to challenge Red's victory total.

Watch the vid. 

and FWIW  I don't think it's crazy to imagine Danny Ainge grabbing all the loot he possibly could so if you think Danny never tried to get 2 picks for Doc I think your crazy.
That said I get what you mean but I don't think Danny would never or did never try to get "crazy"

I expect nothing less from him.

[LGC88]

Well I find Danny was defending Doc.
The way DA is rebuilding looks like Boston might win 50 games next season. So I don't buy the Doc caring for his records. Clippers might end up wins 50 games too without KG.
I think we'll never know the truth or maybe in 20 years when Danny write his book.
Anyway Celtics needed a change, I'm all for that.
Thank you Doc, no grudge against you.

[BballTim]

  A key piece of info was Doc talked to Danny (not long after the season ended) and asked what his options were, and the Celts then sent him a letter stating that they expected him to fulfill his contract. That was definitely a shot across the bow.

[Casperian]

Dude, I'm too old 30+ to get into a flame war or pretend who can read minds better.

I´m not attacking you, I simply wanted to know if you feel better now that you know whom to "blame"?

Danny also said he´d welcome him back with open arms. Why did he say that?

[Snakehead]

  A key piece of info was Doc talked to Danny (not long after the season ended) and asked what his options were, and the Celts then sent him a letter stating that they expected him to fulfill his contract. That was definitely a shot across the bow.

There were multiple shots, with Ainge being as respectful as possible while doing them.

The one you mentioned, just him saying he was "shocked", also the biggest one to me was Ainge saying he thought he sold Doc on sticking around through a rebuild and then saying that maybe Doc sold him on acting like he was going to stick around.  That was a shot.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Dude, I'm too old 30+ to get into a flame war or pretend who can read minds better.

I´m not attacking you, I simply wanted to know if you feel better now that you know whom to "blame"?

Danny also said he´d welcome him back with open arms. Why did he say that?

No.
I always thought it made no sense to get rid of one of the only attractions we would have after the blow up ..to even come to Boston

Does Danny regret not pulling the trigger on the Mayo/Ray trade because somebody in the locker room protested..maybe via Doc? What seems to be lost in all this is the current roster was held together for 1 more year and retooled (something Doc voiced strongly supporting at the time K.G. signed a no trade deal)Doc also gave personal overtures himself to players like Lee and now he leaves it all behind...Lee has a multi year deal. Terry as well. Danny has to own this but Doc really really didn't help and apparently gave no indication to anyone this was coming and the band is gonna possibly be scattered to the wind anyway.

To answer you...no..I don't feel any better to point out what seems like the obvious now and it did a week ago. I feel worse.

[BudweiserCeltic]

  A key piece of info was Doc talked to Danny (not long after the season ended) and asked what his options were, and the Celts then sent him a letter stating that they expected him to fulfill his contract. That was definitely a shot across the bow.

There were multiple shots, with Ainge being as respectful as possible while doing them.

The one you mentioned, just him saying he was "shocked", also the biggest one to me was Ainge saying he thought he sold Doc on sticking around through a rebuild and then saying that maybe Doc sold him on acting like he was going to stick around.  That was a shot.

The "shocked" portion is being misinterpreted I think... it was to the allusion that the deal was managed, not about Doc leaving. As Ainge said, Doc was set to return because while Doc was interested in the Clippers, there was no deal in place to make it happen... but the opportunity presented itself, and the trigger was pulled.

So it was more about the deal happening rather than Doc's decision to leave that really shocked him, particularly since Ainge himself had mentioned that Doc was set to return if the Clippers deal didn't occur.