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DeAndre Jordans success in the East?
« on: June 15, 2013, 01:41:59 PM »

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I think a problem with us when we are deciphering how good these players are, we odn't think of it in terms of conference.

People feel like the East is the weaker conference (I don't necessarily agree), but either way we are definitely the smaller conference. For example, a guy like Jeff Green who struggled at the 4 position in OKC made a killing in that position over here. I remember there was one game we played that line up and JG scored many points against an Eastern team. Played against a Western team and he just wasn't as effective.

So could a guy like DJ be successful in the East? He's a heavy 7 footer, shot blocker. Is he overpaid? Probably....but in the East when your biggest defenders are Bosh, Hibbert, Tyson, I'd have to suspect there's some sort of success that can be had.

Same with Bledsoe. I thought he was just wonderful and explosive.

I think the potential lineup coming from the Clippers sounds great to me, for the purposes of a rebuild. May be green glasses, but I think we can easily slip into 8th place. And I think if we can find a decent SG and another big, we'll be in a better place than we could've imagined.

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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 01:58:15 PM »

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He isn't much different than perk in his first five years.  At worst, he will be average at C.

Re: DeAndre Jordans success in the East?
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 02:00:59 PM »

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He isn't much different than perk in his first five years.  At worst, he will be average at C.

well i mean...dont you people around here love Perk?
sounds like a steal to me

a 37 year old on his last leg/angle vs a 25 year old with more basketball to play?
seems easy to me

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 02:03:13 PM »

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I think a problem with us when we are deciphering how good these players are, we odn't think of it in terms of conference.

People feel like the East is the weaker conference (I don't necessarily agree), but either way we are definitely the smaller conference. For example, a guy like Jeff Green who struggled at the 4 position in OKC made a killing in that position over here. I remember there was one game we played that line up and JG scored many points against an Eastern team. Played against a Western team and he just wasn't as effective.

So could a guy like DJ be successful in the East? He's a heavy 7 footer, shot blocker. Is he overpaid? Probably....but in the East when your biggest defenders are Bosh, Hibbert, Tyson, I'd have to suspect there's some sort of success that can be had.

Same with Bledsoe. I thought he was just wonderful and explosive.

I think the potential lineup coming from the Clippers sounds great to me, for the purposes of a rebuild. May be green glasses, but I think we can easily slip into 8th place. And I think if we can find a decent SG and another big, we'll be in a better place than we could've imagined.

Noah, Hibbert, (Bynum), Lopez, Bosh, Chandler, Horford, Drummond, Monroe, Sanders, Vucevic, Valanciunas vs. (Howard), M. Gasol, Duncan, Cousins, Bogut, Asik, McGee, Gortat, Asik.

I don't think there's a clear advantage with centers in the West.  If anything, I think there's more depth and talent at the center position in the East. 
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: DeAndre Jordans success in the East?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 02:06:14 PM »

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I think a problem with us when we are deciphering how good these players are, we odn't think of it in terms of conference.

People feel like the East is the weaker conference (I don't necessarily agree), but either way we are definitely the smaller conference. For example, a guy like Jeff Green who struggled at the 4 position in OKC made a killing in that position over here. I remember there was one game we played that line up and JG scored many points against an Eastern team. Played against a Western team and he just wasn't as effective.

So could a guy like DJ be successful in the East? He's a heavy 7 footer, shot blocker. Is he overpaid? Probably....but in the East when your biggest defenders are Bosh, Hibbert, Tyson, I'd have to suspect there's some sort of success that can be had.

Same with Bledsoe. I thought he was just wonderful and explosive.

I think the potential lineup coming from the Clippers sounds great to me, for the purposes of a rebuild. May be green glasses, but I think we can easily slip into 8th place. And I think if we can find a decent SG and another big, we'll be in a better place than we could've imagined.

Noah, Hibbert, (Bynum), Lopez, Bosh, Chandler, Horford, Drummond, Monroe, Sanders, Vucevic, Valanciunas vs. (Howard), M. Gasol, Duncan, Cousins, Bogut, Asik, McGee, Gortat, Asik.

I don't think there's a clear advantage with centers in the West.  If anything, I think there's more depth and talent at the center position in the East.

there's like one good true center in the east and that's Roy Hibbert...he proved that in the post season. Bosh still can't stop taking 3s. Tyson Chandler...idk what happened to that guy but he's on a steady decline. Drummond is on a sucky team...good guy...

And then you went on to name...Idk who you named
but some of those people you mentioned actually play PF

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 02:06:34 PM »

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He isn't much different than perk in his first five years.  At worst, he will be average at C.

well i mean...dont you people around here love Perk?
sounds like a steal to me

a 37 year old on his last leg/angle vs a 25 year old with more basketball to play?
seems easy to me


Agreed. People are not looking at the alternative, which is to have KG retire and we get nothing. I see Deandre Jordan as a more athletic Perkins, even before his knee injury, which is not a bad center at all. He's no Dwight Howard or Anthony Davis or anything, but he's a solid young, legitimate center, which we haven't had in years.

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2013, 02:37:38 PM »

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I think a problem with us when we are deciphering how good these players are, we odn't think of it in terms of conference.

People feel like the East is the weaker conference (I don't necessarily agree), but either way we are definitely the smaller conference. For example, a guy like Jeff Green who struggled at the 4 position in OKC made a killing in that position over here. I remember there was one game we played that line up and JG scored many points against an Eastern team. Played against a Western team and he just wasn't as effective.

So could a guy like DJ be successful in the East? He's a heavy 7 footer, shot blocker. Is he overpaid? Probably....but in the East when your biggest defenders are Bosh, Hibbert, Tyson, I'd have to suspect there's some sort of success that can be had.

Same with Bledsoe. I thought he was just wonderful and explosive.

I think the potential lineup coming from the Clippers sounds great to me, for the purposes of a rebuild. May be green glasses, but I think we can easily slip into 8th place. And I think if we can find a decent SG and another big, we'll be in a better place than we could've imagined.

Noah, Hibbert, (Bynum), Lopez, Bosh, Chandler, Horford, Drummond, Monroe, Sanders, Vucevic, Valanciunas vs. (Howard), M. Gasol, Duncan, Cousins, Bogut, Asik, McGee, Gortat, Asik.

I don't think there's a clear advantage with centers in the West.  If anything, I think there's more depth and talent at the center position in the East.

there's like one good true center in the east and that's Roy Hibbert...he proved that in the post season. Bosh still can't stop taking 3s. Tyson Chandler...idk what happened to that guy but he's on a steady decline. Drummond is on a sucky team...good guy...

And then you went on to name...Idk who you named
but some of those people you mentioned actually play PF

I'm not trying to claim that there are a ton of dominant centers in the East, but I provided a list of some of the top centers in the West as well, and after Howard (who may not even be in the West next season) and Gasol, there aren't a lot of guys jumping out at me as dominant centers over there, either. 
DKC Seventy-Sixers:

PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: DeAndre Jordans success in the East?
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2013, 02:57:35 PM »

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I think a problem with us when we are deciphering how good these players are, we odn't think of it in terms of conference.

People feel like the East is the weaker conference (I don't necessarily agree), but either way we are definitely the smaller conference. For example, a guy like Jeff Green who struggled at the 4 position in OKC made a killing in that position over here. I remember there was one game we played that line up and JG scored many points against an Eastern team. Played against a Western team and he just wasn't as effective.

So could a guy like DJ be successful in the East? He's a heavy 7 footer, shot blocker. Is he overpaid? Probably....but in the East when your biggest defenders are Bosh, Hibbert, Tyson, I'd have to suspect there's some sort of success that can be had.

Same with Bledsoe. I thought he was just wonderful and explosive.

I think the potential lineup coming from the Clippers sounds great to me, for the purposes of a rebuild. May be green glasses, but I think we can easily slip into 8th place. And I think if we can find a decent SG and another big, we'll be in a better place than we could've imagined.

Noah, Hibbert, (Bynum), Lopez, Bosh, Chandler, Horford, Drummond, Monroe, Sanders, Vucevic, Valanciunas vs. (Howard), M. Gasol, Duncan, Cousins, Bogut, Asik, McGee, Gortat, Asik.

I don't think there's a clear advantage with centers in the West.  If anything, I think there's more depth and talent at the center position in the East.

there's like one good true center in the east and that's Roy Hibbert...he proved that in the post season. Bosh still can't stop taking 3s. Tyson Chandler...idk what happened to that guy but he's on a steady decline. Drummond is on a sucky team...good guy...

And then you went on to name...Idk who you named
but some of those people you mentioned actually play PF

You forgot about Al Horford. That guy proved to be fits to the Celtics in 2012's first-round against Atlanta. Game 6 could've gone either way, but glad the C's took it.


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