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Re: My 2013 top 20 (after hoop summit)
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2013, 10:07:52 AM »

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I find this draft depressing to look at. So little to be excited about.

Re: My 2013 position rankings
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2013, 10:30:49 AM »

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Re: My 2013 top 20 (after hoop summit)
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2013, 10:50:42 AM »

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I just can't get behind this Gobert business. I've watched the tape of him playing against mediocre competition and he disappears. I would have thought it would take David Blaine to make a seven foot man with inspector gadget arms disappear, but well there you have it.

Inspector Gadget arms aside, I don't see what he has going for him.

Re: My 2013 top 20 (after hoop summit)
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2013, 11:33:53 AM »

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I still don't understand why Dieng isn't top 10 at least in my book... Seems like a steal for us to grab him instead... He has a nice jumper, has blocked better athletes, and overall has tougher competition than Gobert.

Plumlee? Yuck. Another player below 7? Great, just exactly what we need again.

We should grab either Dieng, or whoever would have the highest ceiling as a trade piece.

I can agree that Dieng is better than Gobert right now. The issue is that Dieng is 3 years older than Gobert. Dieng's best season in college he didnt average more than 10 pts or 10rb per game in 31min. Gobert is playing in a good pro league averaging 8pt 5rb in 21min. Both project as defensive role players, however Gobert has more potential.

Plumlee is 1/2" short of 7'. Its not like he is a 6'7 PF. He has the athleticism to play the 4 or the 5 and has a well rounded skill set. In the ACC last season he averaged 17pt 10rb per game. He should have a very solid NBA career as at first big man of the bench type. 
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Re: My 2013 position rankings
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2013, 11:34:51 AM »

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forgot to erase him when i got robinson off the list thanks
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2013, 11:07:05 AM »

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Update

4/29
I am going to rank each position leading up to the draft.

blue = new player added
red = dropped in ranking
green = moved up


PG
1. Trey Burke (well rounded pg)
2. M Carter-Williams (big pass first PG)
3. CJ Mccollum (big time scorer combo guard)
4. Dennis Schroeder (long athletic german pg)
5. Shane Larkin ( another JJ Barea?)
6. Seth Curry (not really a point but steve kerr like pro)
7. Erick Green (scoring 1/2)
8. Myck Kabongo (solid future backup point)

SG
1. Ben McLemore (best chance to be all star)
2. Shabazz Muhammad (2/3 physical scorer)
3. Victor Oladipo (lock down wing defender)
4. Allen Crabbe (great size + shooter)
5. Caldwell-Pope (solid size + shooter
6. Archie Goodwin (high potential)
7. Jamaal Frankin (long and athletic)
8. Tim Hardaway (well rounded SG + good size)
9. Ricky Ledo (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=64155.0)
10.B.J. Young (soph but only 19, great in open court)

SF
1. Otto Porter (well rounded player)
2. Sergey Karasev (great shooting 3/2, pro experience)
3. Dario Saric (ball handling 3/4)
4. Giannis Adetokunbo (Greek mystery SF next batum?)
5. Doug McDermott (scoring luke walton)
6. Reggie Bullock (well rounded 3/2, solid bench wing)
7. Livio Jean-Charles (raw,long french 3/4, energy guy)
8. Andre Roberson (hustle player great athlete + RBer)
8. Deshaun Thompson (tweener but he can score)
9. CJ Leslie (poor mans Hakim Warrick)

PF
1. Anthony Bennett (better brandon bass)
2. Cody Zeller (lacks length for center)
3. Mason Plumlee (solid running PF)
4. Tony Mitchell (super athlete, questionable skill)
5. Jackie Carmichael (smaller sully?)
6. Ryan Kelly (matt bonner 2.0)

C
1. Nerlens Noel (elite defensive big, larry sander like)
2. Alex Len (ideal size athleticism lacks consistency)
3. Kelly Olynyk (solid offensive center)
4. Rudy Gobert (insane length, super high potenial)
5. Gorui Dieng (great physical profile, little potential)
6. Lucas Nogueira (long very athletic 5)
7. Steve Adams (very raw defensive big man)
8. Jeff Withey (great shot blocker, Greg Steimsma 2.0?)
9. Mouhammadou Jaiteh (raw french big man)
10.Mike Muscala (well rounded center)
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2013, 06:58:10 PM »

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Update

4/29
I am going to rank each position leading up to the draft.

blue = new player added
red = dropped in ranking
green = moved up


PG
1. Trey Burke (well rounded pg)
2. M Carter-Williams (big pass first PG)
3. CJ Mccollum (big time scorer combo guard)
4. Dennis Schroeder (long athletic german pg)
5. Shane Larkin ( another JJ Barea?)
6. Seth Curry (not really a point but steve kerr like pro)
7. Erick Green (scoring 1/2)
8. Myck Kabongo (solid future backup point)

SG
1. Ben McLemore (best chance to be all star)
2. Shabazz Muhammad (2/3 physical scorer)
3. Victor Oladipo (lock down wing defender)
4. Allen Crabbe (great size + shooter)
5. Caldwell-Pope (solid size + shooter
6. Archie Goodwin (high potential)
7. Jamaal Frankin (long and athletic)
8. Tim Hardaway (well rounded SG + good size)
9. Ricky Ledo (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=64155.0)
10.B.J. Young (soph but only 19, great in open court)

SF
1. Otto Porter (well rounded player)
2. Sergey Karasev (great shooting 3/2, pro experience)
3. Dario Saric (ball handling 3/4)
4. Giannis Adetokunbo (Greek mystery SF next batum?)
5. Doug McDermott (scoring luke walton)
6. Reggie Bullock (well rounded 3/2, solid bench wing)
7. Livio Jean-Charles (raw,long french 3/4, energy guy)
8. Andre Roberson (hustle player great athlete + RBer)
8. Deshaun Thompson (tweener but he can score)
9. CJ Leslie (poor mans Hakim Warrick)

PF
1. Anthony Bennett (better brandon bass)
2. Cody Zeller (lacks length for center)
3. Mason Plumlee (solid running PF)
4. Tony Mitchell (super athlete, questionable skill)
5. Jackie Carmichael (smaller sully?)
6. Ryan Kelly (matt bonner 2.0)

C
1. Nerlens Noel (elite defensive big, larry sander like)
2. Alex Len (ideal size athleticism lacks consistency)
3. Kelly Olynyk (solid offensive center)
4. Rudy Gobert (insane length, super high potenial)
5. Gorui Dieng (great physical profile, little potential)
6. Lucas Nogueira (long very athletic 5)
7. Steve Adams (very raw defensive big man)
8. Jeff Withey (great shot blocker, Greg Steimsma 2.0?)
9. Mouhammadou Jaiteh (raw french big man)
10.Mike Muscala (well rounded center)

good list. But a few things.

1) you have to take off mcdermott as he is going back to school
2) no way Bennett is a better Bass. They are not similiar players at all except maybe height and length.  Bennett has 3 times the skills that bass posseses but is not as quick nor as hard working. Not yet anyways.  Bennett at peak is closer to a Larry Johnson or Rodney Rodgers or something in between
3) Reggie Bullock is an overrated 6'5 sf.  He will fall to the 2nd round imo
4) KCP should be ahead of Crabbe. KCP has more tools, skills, is more athletic and quicker

Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2013, 02:44:22 PM »

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Update

5/9/13
I am going to rank each position leading up to the draft.

blue = new player added
red = dropped in ranking
green = moved up


PG
1. Trey Burke (well rounded pg)
2. M Carter-Williams (big pass first PG)
3. CJ Mccollum (big time scorer combo guard)
4. Dennis Schroeder (long athletic german pg)
5. Shane Larkin ( another JJ Barea?)
6. Seth Curry (not really a point but steve kerr like pro)
7. Erick Green (scoring 1/2)
8. Pierre Jackson (Small but very effecting PG)
9. Myck Kabongo (solid future backup point)

SG
1. Ben McLemore (best chance to be all star)
2. Victor Oladipo (lock down wing defender)
3. Shabazz Muhammad (2/3 physical scorer)
4. Allen Crabbe (great size + shooter)
5. Caldwell-Pope (solid size + shooter
6. Archie Goodwin (high potential)
7. Jamaal Frankin (long and athletic)
8. Tim Hardaway (well rounded SG + good size)
9. Ricky Ledo (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=64155.0)
10. B.J. Young (soph but only 19, great in open court)
11. Nemanja Nedovic (super athletic euro combo guard)

SF
1. Otto Porter (well rounded player)
2. Sergey Karasev (great shooting 3/2, pro experience)
3. Dario Saric (ball handling 3/4)
4. Giannis Adetokunbo (Greek mystery SF next batum?)
5. Glen Rice Jr. 9Great D League playoffs should move him into first round)
6. Reggie Bullock (well rounded 3/2, solid bench wing)
7. Livio Jean-Charles (raw,long french 3/4, energy guy)
8. Andre Roberson (hustle player great athlete + RBer)
9. Deshaun Thompson (tweener but he can score)
10. James Ennis (good size and athleticism played well against good teams in college
11. CJ Leslie (poor mans Hakim Warrick)

PF
1. Anthony Bennett (better brandon bass)
2. Cody Zeller (lacks length for center)
3. Mason Plumlee (solid running PF)
4. Tony Mitchell (super athlete, questionable skill)
5. Jackie Carmichael (smaller sully?)
6. Ryan Kelly (matt bonner 2.0)

C
1. Nerlens Noel (elite defensive big, larry sander like)
2. Alex Len (ideal size athleticism lacks consistency)
3. Kelly Olynyk (solid offensive center)
4. Rudy Gobert (insane length, super high potenial)
5. Gorui Dieng (great physical profile, little potential)
6. Lucas Nogueira (long very athletic 5)
7. Steve Adams (very raw defensive big man)
8. Jeff Withey (great shot blocker, Greg Steimsma 2.0?)
9. Mouhammadou Jaiteh (raw french big man)
10.Mike Muscala (well rounded center)
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 02:51:32 PM by CFAN38 »
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2013, 03:12:48 PM »

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TP for this. Great job!
Where I disagree: I like Oladipo more than Muhammad, Caldwell-Pope higher than Crabbe. I would have Cody Zeller as the second Center not the second PG and finally I would have Nogueira behind Adams and Withey. This is all opinion based so I'm not trying to knock your rankings just share my opinion.
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2013, 03:37:22 PM »

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TP mate well done
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2013, 05:11:50 PM »

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TP for this. Great job!
Where I disagree: I like Oladipo more than Muhammad, Caldwell-Pope higher than Crabbe. I would have Cody Zeller as the second Center not the second PG and finally I would have Nogueira behind Adams and Withey. This is all opinion based so I'm not trying to knock your rankings just share my opinion.

I agree about Oladipo, I changed and have him over Shabazz. I actually think Oladipo could over take Mclemore after workouts.

I disagree with Zeller only because I think he is going to have to play PF. He doesnt have the length or strength to really play center. Granted many teams play undersized and this may allow him some time at C.

Nogueira is just a shot in the dark, I wouldnt be shocked Adams to move up post workouts and possibly move up as fare as 3rd among centers.
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Re: CFAN38's 2013 Draft Rankings (Updated/Merged)
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2013, 09:00:51 AM »

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Update

5/20/13 [post combine]
I am going to rank each position leading up to the draft.

Added positional Tiers to my rankings


blue = new player added
red = dropped in ranking
green = moved up


PG
1st
1. Trey Burke (well rounded pg)
2nd
2. M Carter-Williams (big pass first PG)
3. CJ Mccollum (big time scorer combo guard)
4. Dennis Schroeder (long athletic german pg)
3rd
5. Shane Larkin ( another JJ Barea?)
6. Erick Green (scoring 1/2)
7. Nate Wolters (big PG some teams are really high on)
4th
8. Seth Curry (not really a point but steve kerr like pro)
9.  Pierre Jackson (Small but very effecting PG)
10. Lorenzo Brown (big PG)
11. Myck Kabongo (solid future backup point)

Having seen the measurements there are a lot of guys in this class who are really in the middle of 2-3 (guys who are 6'6 with 6'9+ wingspans and 8'7 + reaches)

SG
1st
1. Ben McLemore (best chance to be all star)
2. Victor Oladipo (lock down wing defender)
2nd
3. Allen Crabbe (great size + shooter)
4. Caldwell-Pope (solid size + shooter
5. Tim Hardaway (well rounded SG + good size)
3rd
6. Archie Goodwin (high potential)
7. Jamaal Frankin (long and athletic)
8. Ricky Ledo (http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=64155.0)
4th
9. Tony Snell (great profile for a D-3 wing)
10. B.J. Young (soph but only 19, great in open court)
11. Nemanja Nedovic (super athletic euro combo guard)

SF
1st
1. Otto Porter (well rounded player)
2. Shabazz Muhammad (2/3 physical scorer)
2nd
3. Sergey Karasev (great shooting 3/2, pro experience)
4. Dario Saric (ball handling 3/4)
5. Giannis Adetokunbo (Greek mystery SF next batum?)
6. Glen Rice Jr. (Great D League playoffs should move him into first round)
7. Reggie Bullock (well rounded 3/2, solid bench wing)
3rd
8. Livio Jean-Charles (raw,long french 3/4, energy guy)
9. Andre Roberson (hustle player great athlete + RBer)
10. Deshaun Thomas (tweener but he can score)
11. James Ennis (good size and athleticism played well against good teams in college
12. CJ Leslie (poor mans Hakim Warrick)

PF
1st
1. Anthony Bennett (better brandon bass)
2. Cody Zeller (lacks length for center)
3. Mason Plumlee (solid running PF)
2nd
4. Tony Mitchell (super athlete, questionable skill)
3rd
5. Jackie Carmichael (smaller sully?)
6. Ryan Kelly (matt bonner 2.0 but bigger 9'2 standing reach)
4th
7. Eric Murphy (stretch 4)
8. Trevor Mbakwe (4/5 defensive role player)
9. Kenny Kadji (big athletic stretch 4, not as productive as physical profile would suggest already 25.)


C
1st
1. Nerlens Noel (elite defensive big, larry sander like, weight and injurys red flags)
2. Alex Len (ideal size athleticism lacks consistency)
2nd
3. Kelly Olynyk (solid offensive center, lacks length)
4. Rudy Gobert (insane length, super high potential)
5. Gorui Dieng (great physical profile, little potential)
3rd
6. Steve Adams (very raw defensive big man)
7. Lucas Nogueira (long very athletic 5)
8. Jeff Withey (great shot blocker, Greg Steimsma 2.0?)
4th
9. Mouhammadou Jaiteh (raw french big man)
10.Mike Muscala (well rounded center)
12.Colton Iverson (big body
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