Ray Allen with Spoelstra, Riley, Zo (pic)

[guava_wrench]

Ray is done in Boston.

Pierce, KG, and Rondo dislike the Heat way too much to be okay with this.

This isn't just a business decision going to the Clippers for a starting job and comparable money.

This would be taking less money to side with the ENEMY.

Would Pierce or KG would go out like that with a team that were hated rivals?  I doubt it.

Ray is going to the Lakers?

Miami is not our rival team. Never has been. Just because so many people hate the Heat these days doesn't make them a Celtics rival. Philly, NY and LAL are the Celtics rivals. Miami is just the team that knocked us out of the playoffs two years in a row.

Its hard to become more of rival with teams than facing them three years in the row in the playoffs.

LBJ/Bosh weren't there for 2009-2010, but the C's took out LBJs team right after Wade's.

This Heat team certainly are this Cs team's rivals as much as the Lakers are (2 Finals clashes)

That is a pretty short term view of rivalry for a fan. And this is a fan thing, not a player thing. Ray Allen doesn't strike me as a tribal type who hates other players or teams. He seems more mature to me than the average player.

The Heat are not a rivalry. They are just top dog right now so every other playoff team has them in their sights. There are fans of every team they knocked that will have anger towards them that players aren't going to have. How many all star games have had these guys as teammates?

It's silly IMO to just say "oh these our traditional rivals so they are our only ones"...

Philly hasn't been relevant til this year.  The Knicks haven't either and practically still aren't.  If a team is no good they aren't a rival to me.

LeBron's number 1 rival is the Celtics, from his time in Cleveland and Miami.

Bill Simmons said it and it's true that if LeBron goes on to a Jordan like streak and dynasty we will be looked at as the Bad Boy Pistons: an early obstacle and rival in a career.

Simmons, as usual, it talking out his rear.

We would be like that Billups' Pistons perhaps. A team that was previously on top of the conference but who never even managed to beat the next king of the hill. We beat Billups' Pistons our first year together and Miami beat us their first year together.

The logic you are putting forth basically sets up the situation where fans like you are going to hate whatever team is on top of the conference when the C's are contenders or whatever team knocks us out of the playoffs and then you are going to call it a rivalry. Kinda like Atlanta thinking they had a rivalry with us just because we went 7 in 2008 in a physical series. I would agree that there is more going on between the C's and Mia since they have both been legitimate contenders, unlike Mia, but I am not one to start hating a new team every few years when a new team is on top and beating us. I am not that tribal. So my perspective is not going to be that volatile and short term.

[33_Larry Legend_33]

The friction between Ray and Rondo now makes sense...  This was Rondo's way of nudging himself into to the "big 3" inner circle.  One way or another Rondo was going to get his name in that mix.

[Celtics18]

The friction between Ray and Rondo now makes sense...  This was Rondo's way of nudging himself into to the "big 3" inner circle.  One way or another Rondo was going to get his name in that mix.

Rondo played himself into being the best, tied for best, or second best player (depending on who you ask) player on the team.  There's not much Ray Allen is capable of doing about that.

[OsirusCeltics]

I guess this kid just took a picture w/ them do not do it Ray

Wow they got him with a special needs kid
[dang] they're really trying to reel him in

no no, thats spoelstra on the far right. I made the same mistake.

Hahaha
TP

[SHAQATTACK]

I guess this kid just took a picture w/ them do not do it Ray

Wow they got him with a special needs kid
[dang] they're really trying to reel him in

no no, thats spoelstra on the far right. I made the same mistake.

Hahaha
TP

  Humm....gag a magot.. discusting  " Sleepin with the Enemy"

[j804]

Ray is done in Boston.

Pierce, KG, and Rondo dislike the Heat way too much to be okay with this.

This isn't just a business decision going to the Clippers for a starting job and comparable money.

This would be taking less money to side with the ENEMY.

Would Pierce or KG would go out like that with a team that were hated rivals?  I doubt it.

Ray is going to the Lakers?

Miami is not our rival team. Never has been. Just because so many people hate the Heat these days doesn't make them a Celtics rival. Philly, NY and LAL are the Celtics rivals. Miami is just the team that knocked us out of the playoffs two years in a row.

Its hard to become more of rival with teams than facing them three years in the row in the playoffs.

LBJ/Bosh weren't there for 2009-2010, but the C's took out LBJs team right after Wade's.

This Heat team certainly are this Cs team's rivals as much as the Lakers are (2 Finals clashes)

That is a pretty short term view of rivalry for a fan. And this is a fan thing, not a player thing. Ray Allen doesn't strike me as a tribal type who hates other players or teams. He seems more mature to me than the average player.

The Heat are not a rivalry. They are just top dog right now so every other playoff team has them in their sights. There are fans of every team they knocked that will have anger towards them that players aren't going to have. How many all star games have had these guys as teammates?

It's silly IMO to just say "oh these our traditional rivals so they are our only ones"...

Philly hasn't been relevant til this year.  The Knicks haven't either and practically still aren't.  If a team is no good they aren't a rival to me.

LeBron's number 1 rival is the Celtics, from his time in Cleveland and Miami.

Bill Simmons said it and it's true that if LeBron goes on to a Jordan like streak and dynasty we will be looked at as the Bad Boy Pistons: an early obstacle and rival in a career.

Simmons, as usual, it talking out his rear.

We would be like that Billups' Pistons perhaps. A team that was previously on top of the conference but who never even managed to beat the next king of the hill. We beat Billups' Pistons our first year together and Miami beat us their first year together.

The logic you are putting forth basically sets up the situation where fans like you are going to hate whatever team is on top of the conference when the C's are contenders or whatever team knocks us out of the playoffs and then you are going to call it a rivalry. Kinda like Atlanta thinking they had a rivalry with us just because we went 7 in 2008 in a physical series. I would agree that there is more going on between the C's and Mia since they have both been legitimate contenders, unlike Mia, but I am not one to start hating a new team every few years when a new team is on top and beating us. I am not that tribal. So my perspective is not going to be that volatile and short term.

well that's just your opinion they aren't as big rivals as LA but they are one of our rivals as has been said by just about every sports writer out there