Better Player in 5 years: Marshon Brooks or Avery Bradley?

[Celtics18]

The more interesting question is, who will be better in 5 years, AB or John Wall?

I'm not sold on John Wall.

Fastest guy in the league, insane hops, good handle, and can score.... What aren't you sold on?

Evidence on that speed factor?
Actually many PGs would be jockeying for position in such a competition. Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Parker, Conley, Lawson are just to name a few. I'm sure I'm missing out on some other fast player as well.

Rondo?

[clover]

Forget about Austin Ainge, looks like it's Doc's son Jeremiah who has been tipping the team off to good young players from AB to 3J and JG:

(Doc:) "I actually didn't like [Johnson] at that point. It's funny, though, Jeremiah did. When they played Purdue the last time, he actually said, 'Man, that kid can really play.' I didn't project that, later on, he'd be on my team. I didn't think that. Maybe I should start doing that more."

...Jeremiah Rivers played college ball with Jeff Green at Georgetown and provided glowing reviews following the Kendrick Perkins trade last season that brought Green back to Boston (where he was originally drafted fifth overall in 2007 before being moved to Seattle as part of the deal for Ray Allen). Rivers was familiar with Avery Bradley, who was drafted by the Celtics last year, from the AAU circuit.

Jeremiah heaped praise on Johnson again Thursday night.

"When we drafted him, he actually thought that [he] was one of the best players that he'd played against," Doc Rivers said. "He knows what he's talking about hopefully."

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba/columns/story?columnist=forsberg_chris&id=6699485

[BballTim]

Was watching the game tonight and started to ponder this...Bradley is a lock down defender and is great at cutting to the basket, while Brooks is a phenomenal scorer.

I'd have to go with Bradley...His defense is all ready at an allstar level, and his offense seems to be really picking up.

  12.5 points a game isn't really phenomenal scoring.

Well, he's on the Nets...If he was on the Celtics, you would see he is a phenomenal scorer.

  Why, would I be invited to watch their practices?

  He scores about as well as Green/Krstic/Davis did for us last year. Did anyone think that they were all phenomenal scorers? Maybe if he was on the Celts and not the Nets you'd be less infatuated with him.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Im leaning towards MarShon Brooks by a couple of hair.

Bradley is an ALL NBA level defender. Now he can shoot, in 5 years I can see him as a starter.

But there's something about a scorer. Someone who can create for his own. And if Deron leaves NJ/Brooklyn, Brooks will be 2nd if not 1st scoring option of this team (albeit a bad one). He'll improve his scoring ability. He shows effort on defense already, and he's a good rebounder. I believe that what Brooks can offer for a team (which is a little bit more) makes him a little better than Bradley in the future.

just me.

[Evantime34]

Bradley is younger, consistently plays hard and more importantly doesn't take bad shots.

Marshon Brooks can fill it up but a lot of time he gets hot but also  destroys ball movement. His defense also isn't very good and he doesn't cut very well off the ball.

I will take a guy who can help without the ball constantly in his hands and plays elite defense over a good scorer anyday.

[LooseCannon]

But there's something about a scorer. Someone who can create for his own.

I tend to go the other way and think scoring is overrated.  Brooks' offense is too isolation-heavy for me to want him to be a Celtic.

[alajet]

The more interesting question is, who will be better in 5 years, AB or John Wall?

I'm not sold on John Wall.

Fastest guy in the league, insane hops, good handle, and can score.... What aren't you sold on?

Evidence on that speed factor?
Actually many PGs would be jockeying for position in such a competition. Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Parker, Conley, Lawson are just to name a few. I'm sure I'm missing out on some other fast player as well.

Rondo?

He's up there, of course, but doesn't show his top gear very often.
This hypothetical competition is beginning to attract me more and more

[clover]

The more interesting question is, who will be better in 5 years, AB or John Wall?

I'm not sold on John Wall.

Fastest guy in the league, insane hops, good handle, and can score.... What aren't you sold on?

Evidence on that speed factor?
Actually many PGs would be jockeying for position in such a competition. Westbrook, Rose, Wall, Parker, Conley, Lawson are just to name a few. I'm sure I'm missing out on some other fast player as well.

Rondo?

He's up there, of course, but doesn't show his top gear very often.
This hypothetical competition is beginning to attract me more and more

What was that old TV show that had people competing over an obstacle course?  I could see it being pretty popular revived with professional athletes from various sports.

Maybe it could be a decathlon with some generic atheticism events and some sport-specific skills events.

You could have competitions within the same sports and then playoffs and finalists from the NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc., all brought together at the end.

[cman88]

Since the allstar break Bradley is averaging just as many ppg as brooks

[BballTim]

Im leaning towards MarShon Brooks by a couple of hair.

Bradley is an ALL NBA level defender. Now he can shoot, in 5 years I can see him as a starter.

  He's a starter now.

[mqtcelticsfan]

Bradley's ceiling : Chauncey Billups..
Marshon's ceiling : Jamal Crawford..

Chauncey Billups is just a painfully bad comparison for Bradley.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Marshon is only scoring 12.5 as the second/"first" option... AB has been scoring that as a 5th (oh he's on the court, let me get him a shot) option! AB's defense, well you'd be hard pressed to find many players better at on ball defense (kid is a pitt)! AB is already better and younger, so unless AB doesn't get better (I find that HIGHLY unlikely), I say AB! AB can even get better on defense (watch out) and he is getting better on offense steadily... they say he works his butt off too! GO AB!!!

[guava_wrench]

Im leaning towards MarShon Brooks by a couple of hair.

Bradley is an ALL NBA level defender. Now he can shoot, in 5 years I can see him as a starter.

  He's a starter now.

Haha. He's even sent Ray Allen to the bench.

[guava_wrench]

But there's something about a scorer. Someone who can create for his own.

I tend to go the other way and think scoring is overrated.  Brooks' offense is too isolation-heavy for me to want him to be a Celtic.

Guys who heave a lot of shots create a lot of deceptive memories because people remember the box scores where shots fell and forget all the horrid games.

If you take one hook shot a game from half court, there will be someone who only saw the game where the shot fell or who only saw the highlight on TV. Nevermind that you went 1 for 82. That person would think, 'Wow, that guy can nail half court hook shots'.

[coco]

I know what you are trying to do is to compare a wing vs a wing.  But to me,  what should be compared is JJJ vs MBrooks.  JJJ is the reason why DAinge skiped on MBrooks.  Well, lets see if the move pays off in 5 years.
 
One thing thou, It's not looking good at the moment 

...about ABradley vs Brooks.  Brooks trade value will always be higher cause he is a scorer.