Cs no interest in Sheed

[CelticG1]

 I don´t understand Ainge, Sheed would be a great fit, we have no rebounds, this is incredible and incomprenssible.

 C´s need a center, Sheed will sign for the Bulls, great mistake Danny.

Sheed doesn't rebound. Not any better than the guys we have.

Sheed is old, likely overweight, and even though the Celtics reportedly 'have no interest' in Sheed, it's also pretty likely that Sheed 'has no interest' in the 4-7 Celtics. Bulls, Heat, heck maybe the Magic, the Sixers (he's from Philly, right?)

Actually the Sixers make about a million pounds of sense.

I think most of those teams are too athletic for Sheed..

idk, I just dont think sheed has much to offer any team..if he came to camp out of shape after a year of playing basketball and in a contract year.

imagine how out of shape he must be after being off the court for 1.5years?!

How out out shape was he? He did play in just about every game that year injury free at 35. Also it want a contact year

[Marcus13]

Nobody is going to be interested.  You know what kind of shape he has to be in by now?  He is literally going to stand around the 3 point line and hope his man cheats off him

[winsomme]

 I don´t understand Ainge, Sheed would be a great fit, we have no rebounds, this is incredible and incomprenssible.

 C´s need a center, Sheed will sign for the Bulls, great mistake Danny.

Sheed doesn't rebound. Not any better than the guys we have.

Sheed is old, likely overweight, and even though the Celtics reportedly 'have no interest' in Sheed, it's also pretty likely that Sheed 'has no interest' in the 4-7 Celtics. Bulls, Heat, heck maybe the Magic, the Sixers (he's from Philly, right?)

Actually the Sixers make about a million pounds of sense.

I think most of those teams are too athletic for Sheed..

idk, I just dont think sheed has much to offer any team..if he came to camp out of shape after a year of playing basketball and in a contract year.

imagine how out of shape he must be after being off the court for 1.5years?!

How out out shape was he? He did play in just about every game that year injury free at 35. Also it want a contact year

Sheed ended up being a good pick up that year. I mean we almost won another Title...

It certainly was better than what we have going on at the center position right now.

we are getting STEAMROLLED in the paint.

[Celts Fan 92]

LOL some of ya'll have selective memory this man refused to get in the post nd chucked up 3's even tho he shot 30%. And you guys wanna talk about rebounding he didnt rebound with us he's never averaged 10 rpg in a season lls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWAETgnTmbA&feature=fvst

[Tai]

Rasheed Wallace has given indications that he wants to make a return - and he astutely never filed retirement papers when he left the Celtics after the 2009-10 season.

While the Celtics don’t regret signing Wallace to a two-year deal, they were disappointed that he did not work himself into top condition that season. He had to come out of Game 7 of the NBA Finals because of exhaustion.

Wallace may have some value around the league as a top post defender despite his age (37). But the Celtics will not be in the market for an aging center whose casual approach was a concern even when he was surrounded by role models such as Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218298/Celtics_Reportedly_Have_No_Interest_In_Rasheed_Wallace#ixzz1jZvM26fj

another indicator that Danny either doesn't see the center position as a problem or isn't really interested in turning this current roster into a contender.

Or Danny has already been burned by a fat, out of shape Rasheed Wallace and has decided he won't let it happen again.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion(center not a problem or he is uninterested in making the team better and a contender) about Danny simply because he won't sign a player who, if signed, would be making his first appearance in 19 months, would be amongst the oldest players in the league and who, when he left, was out of shape for an entire year while collecting $6 million from the Celtics.

well he is better than what we have now and he actually was a valuable member of that Title appearing team that he was so out of condition for...

the revisionist history is pretty intense for Sheed. he was a disappointment during the regular season but definitely stepped it up in the playoffs....I wanted him back the next season, anyway...

Revisionist history is saying he helped that year at all. He played much better in the playoffs of 2010 than the regular season but in actuality he really only had two good games in that Finals, games 2 and 7. and a few good games in the previous series. Other than that he played pretty poorly. People seem to completely forget the utter no show he had in games 3,4 and 6 of the Finals.

As for whether he is better than what we currently have, I wonder. Have you seen him lately? Have you seen him play recently? Can he even get up and down the floor? I wouldn't be making that statement and be thinking about 2007 Rasheed when what you might be getting is a guy 30 pounds overweight that can't run the floor, can't jump, can't maneuver in the paint and is only willing to hang 25 feet from the basket on offense and chuck bad shots.

I don't agree, nick. I think people got so frustrated with Sheed during the season, they were unable to be swayed by his post season contributions and were left with the fat and lazy assessment.

The Cs became to the 09 Cs in the playoffs. They had that edge to them and Sheed was a big part of it.

As far as game-by -game analysis of Sheed's playoff contributions, even the best bench players have that pattern. it's the nature of being a bench player. overall, he was a big part of that squad almost taking home another Title IMO.

and because of that, if I were Danny, I certainly would not be turning my nose up at him. especially given our current center rotation.

how can you be so indignant toward Sheed when you are getting steamrolled in the paint?

So first Danny isn't interested in making the team better, and now he's being indignant to Sheed?

This blog is convinced it'll wake up one day and see JO being out for an extended period of time, you know what happened with Shaq, and because Danny doesn't want to bring in another old center, he's being indignant now? I understand you didn't directly call Danny indignant, but if you're willing to say that to someone else, surely you feel Danny's being the same way.

[Inside-Out]

I'd rather have Fatboy Sheed at the 5 (gulp) giving a respectable foul than KG there stepping out of the way and waving his arms around like he's trying to block something (or swat flies, whatever).

There are tougher players than KG in the paint in the WNBA these days.

[winsomme]

Rasheed Wallace has given indications that he wants to make a return - and he astutely never filed retirement papers when he left the Celtics after the 2009-10 season.

While the Celtics don’t regret signing Wallace to a two-year deal, they were disappointed that he did not work himself into top condition that season. He had to come out of Game 7 of the NBA Finals because of exhaustion.

Wallace may have some value around the league as a top post defender despite his age (37). But the Celtics will not be in the market for an aging center whose casual approach was a concern even when he was surrounded by role models such as Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218298/Celtics_Reportedly_Have_No_Interest_In_Rasheed_Wallace#ixzz1jZvM26fj

another indicator that Danny either doesn't see the center position as a problem or isn't really interested in turning this current roster into a contender.

Or Danny has already been burned by a fat, out of shape Rasheed Wallace and has decided he won't let it happen again.

I don't see how you can come to that conclusion(center not a problem or he is uninterested in making the team better and a contender) about Danny simply because he won't sign a player who, if signed, would be making his first appearance in 19 months, would be amongst the oldest players in the league and who, when he left, was out of shape for an entire year while collecting $6 million from the Celtics.

well he is better than what we have now and he actually was a valuable member of that Title appearing team that he was so out of condition for...

the revisionist history is pretty intense for Sheed. he was a disappointment during the regular season but definitely stepped it up in the playoffs....I wanted him back the next season, anyway...

Revisionist history is saying he helped that year at all. He played much better in the playoffs of 2010 than the regular season but in actuality he really only had two good games in that Finals, games 2 and 7. and a few good games in the previous series. Other than that he played pretty poorly. People seem to completely forget the utter no show he had in games 3,4 and 6 of the Finals.

As for whether he is better than what we currently have, I wonder. Have you seen him lately? Have you seen him play recently? Can he even get up and down the floor? I wouldn't be making that statement and be thinking about 2007 Rasheed when what you might be getting is a guy 30 pounds overweight that can't run the floor, can't jump, can't maneuver in the paint and is only willing to hang 25 feet from the basket on offense and chuck bad shots.

I don't agree, nick. I think people got so frustrated with Sheed during the season, they were unable to be swayed by his post season contributions and were left with the fat and lazy assessment.

The Cs became to the 09 Cs in the playoffs. They had that edge to them and Sheed was a big part of it.

As far as game-by -game analysis of Sheed's playoff contributions, even the best bench players have that pattern. it's the nature of being a bench player. overall, he was a big part of that squad almost taking home another Title IMO.

and because of that, if I were Danny, I certainly would not be turning my nose up at him. especially given our current center rotation.

how can you be so indignant toward Sheed when you are getting steamrolled in the paint?

So first Danny isn't interested in making the team better, and now he's being indignant to Sheed?

This blog is convinced it'll wake up one day and see JO being out for an extended period of time, you know what happened with Shaq, and because Danny doesn't want to bring in another old center, he's being indignant now? I understand you didn't directly call Danny indignant, but if you're willing to say that to someone else, surely you feel Danny's being the same way.

Well the Washburn report sounded somewhat indignant regarding his time in BOS which is strange considering that team was 1 win from another Title.

given what we are seeing with this team, I would certainly go back to that...how do you criticize Sheed's casual approach and at the same time go into a season with JO as your starting center.

[JohnBagleyValueMeal]

Signing Sheed now would be a mistake, but there's no question in my mind that he was a far better player in green than lots here give him credit for. I'd take Sheed over Jermaine O'Neal any day. 

[indeedproceed]

You guys keep using the word indignant. I'm not sure you're using it right. Indignant to me is about whether something is fair or just. Not whether something is up to snuff or expectation.

[pearljammer10]

Rasheed Wallace has given indications that he wants to make a return - and he astutely never filed retirement papers when he left the Celtics after the 2009-10 season.

While the Celtics don’t regret signing Wallace to a two-year deal, they were disappointed that he did not work himself into top condition that season. He had to come out of Game 7 of the NBA Finals because of exhaustion.

Wallace may have some value around the league as a top post defender despite his age (37). But the Celtics will not be in the market for an aging center whose casual approach was a concern even when he was surrounded by role models such as Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218298/Celtics_Reportedly_Have_No_Interest_In_Rasheed_Wallace#ixzz1jZvM26fj

another indicator that Danny either doesn't see the center position as a problem or isn't really interested in turning this current roster into a contender.

How would anyone see adding a slow out of shape out of the league aged center as filling a problem or turning his team into a contender? I applaud Danny for not making a move such as this and actually being smart. We need youth an athleticism because we are too old already. Adding another old foggie like Sheed would not help us at all.

[winsomme]

You guys keep using the word indignant. I'm not sure you're using it right. Indignant to me is about whether something is fair or just. Not whether something is up to snuff or expectation.

maybe it's not exactly the right word but for the Cs to leak out that they are not interested in Sheed because of how he played when he was here seems somewhat indignant. like he's not worthy of being considered...

considering how weak our center position is why wouldn't we at least consider him? I mean, like mentioned, we were one win from a Title with him as a contributor.

[winsomme]

Rasheed Wallace has given indications that he wants to make a return - and he astutely never filed retirement papers when he left the Celtics after the 2009-10 season.

While the Celtics don’t regret signing Wallace to a two-year deal, they were disappointed that he did not work himself into top condition that season. He had to come out of Game 7 of the NBA Finals because of exhaustion.

Wallace may have some value around the league as a top post defender despite his age (37). But the Celtics will not be in the market for an aging center whose casual approach was a concern even when he was surrounded by role models such as Pierce, Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett.

Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe


Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218298/Celtics_Reportedly_Have_No_Interest_In_Rasheed_Wallace#ixzz1jZvM26fj

another indicator that Danny either doesn't see the center position as a problem or isn't really interested in turning this current roster into a contender.

How would anyone see adding a slow out of shape out of the league aged center as filling a problem or turning his team into a contender? I applaud Danny for not making a move such as this and actually being smart. We need youth an athleticism because we are too old already. Adding another old foggie like Sheed would not help us at all.

Hey, i would rather have Sheed be a backup big than a starter and I would prefer a younger entity in the middle but he certainly isn't going to hurt things and it really frees up trading JO...maybe for a younger center if coupled with a pick.

[indeedproceed]

You guys keep using the word indignant. I'm not sure you're using it right. Indignant to me is about whether something is fair or just. Not whether something is up to snuff or expectation.

maybe it's not exactly the right word but for the Cs to leak out that they are not interested in Sheed because of how he played when he was here seems somewhat indignant. like he's not worthy of being considered...

considering how weak our center position is why wouldn't we at least consider him? I mean, like mentioned, we were one win from a Title with him as a contributor.

Well, whatever the Sheed situation (my personal expectation is that Danny knows exactly how Sheed looks, knows exactly what the players really think of him, and would have brought him in if he thought it were worthwhile), I don't think 'indignant' is the word.

Example: guy A is selling a bike. Guy B wants to buy the bike.

Guy B: I'll give you 5 dollars for that piece of crap.
Guy A: I wouldn't sell this bike for $5 if your wife can as part of the deal.

Guy A said that indignantly.

EDIT: Actually, after looking up the word, Guy A only says it indignantly if he's visibly showing anger or frustration.

[nickagneta]

I hate to do something so evil as to break out actual statistics to prove a point but last we saw Rasheed Wallace his Rebound% was 11.2. And if I remember correctly, it was that high after a late season surge because most of that year it was below 10 and there were articles written regarding Sheed being the first ever, regularly playing player that was 6'11" or taller, having a rebound% below 10.

Well our frontcourt is getting steamrolled but here are the rebound%'s of our current frontcourt players:

KG - 13.8%
Bass - 14.1%
Stiemsma - 16.7%
JO - 13.2%
JJJ - 13.5%
Wilcox - 14.9%

I agree our frontcourt is getting steamrolled but according to actual stats, Rasheed would be making us worse in rebounding, the area we are desperate to upgrade.

And that was from stats during a year where he played all year and not after taking 19 months off and doing nothing.

[winsomme]

I hate to do something so evil as to break out actual statistics to prove a point but last we saw Rasheed Wallace his Rebound% was 11.2. And if I remember correctly, it was that high after a late season surge because most of that year it was below 10 and there were articles written regarding Sheed being the first ever, regularly playing player that was 6'11" or taller, having a rebound% below 10.

Well our frontcourt is getting steamrolled but here are the rebound%'s of our current frontcourt players:

KG - 13.8%
Bass - 14.1%
Stiemsma - 16.7%
JO - 13.2%
JJJ - 13.5%
Wilcox - 14.9%

I agree our frontcourt is getting steamrolled but according to actual stats, Rasheed would be making us worse in rebounding, the are we are desperate to upgrade.

And that was from stats during a year where he played all year and not after taking 19 months off and doing nothing.

that is the folly of stats...the Cs certainly did not get steamrolled as the marched to the NBA Finals.

I would take Sheed in a hearbeat over the lower 4 on your list...just watch the games nick. JO just has terrible body language out there and it is contagious. We need something different in the middle than we currently have and a player that was a key part of a Title run on this squad doesn't seem like a player we should be immediately turning our noses up at..