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Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2012, 02:37:40 PM »

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FA sucks, wait till 2013

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2012, 02:59:41 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 03:03:37 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

TP for this wisdom.

And you are exactly correct.  Blocking out the Pitino years, I would have enjoyed watching a couple more seasons of Joe Johnson, Pierce, and Antoine, personally.  Especially if we still got Rondo (with a purchased pick?) and Perk.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 03:25:55 PM »

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sign Anthony Randolph to a cheap long term deal, 4 years/12 mil.

Batum seems unhappy and Denver probably doesn't keep all of it's wings so I'd try to pick one of them up

Play out the season with Pierce the only big 3 member left, enter the lottery (shabazz  ;D) amnesty pierce and then go hard in FA. 2013 is stacked with guys like CP3, Curry, Jennings,Jameer,  Monta, Iggy, Tyreke, K-Mart, Harden, Manu, Lou Will, S Jax, R Brewer, Gordon, Smoove, Marion, Wright, Gerald Wallace, Metta Peace, Ariza, Ibaka, Millsap, Brand,  Al Jeff, Blair, Taj, Okafor and Odom plus some players that could accept the QO this year and opt for 2013 FA (Love if he wants out, Brook cause of the foot, etc)


Draft has some good late lotto picks. I like Beal Sullinger, and Leonard a lot more than the guys ahead of them at their position (Lamb, Davis, Drummond) If we can snag up one of them or even Rivers we have found ourselves a keeper
TP for the last pit on beal, leonard, etc. You know whats up.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 03:29:14 PM »

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I hope Danny doesnt go out and spend the money just for the sake of spending the money. Like someone pointed out when the Pistons blew it signing Charlie and Gordon... If we cant net a big fish, throw some money to some good role guys that can fill out the team and then save some dough to try and make a splash in 2013.
Definetly. Go after Dwight, Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, but if none of that works, then sign maybe one good player and people to fill out the team. I dont see Danny blowing all his money after saving it all up (and trading perk to be able to spend it) unless its on an elite player.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2012, 03:41:50 PM »

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If we can land Love or Gordon; I'll be ecstatic.

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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2012, 03:55:35 PM »

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If we can land Love or Gordon; I'll be ecstatic.

We can't. They're both restricted free agents. Wolves/Hornets will match.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2012, 06:44:27 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

About 60% of this board misses the years of lottery picks, this would be a godsend. That being said I would love to grab Josh Smith if Howard doesn't come, there is a huge difference between him and Charlie V...defensive ability and intelligence and athleticism all come to mind.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2012, 07:05:02 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

About 60% of this board misses the years of lottery picks, this would be a godsend. That being said I would love to grab Josh Smith if Howard doesn't come, there is a huge difference between him and Charlie V...defensive ability and intelligence and athleticism all come to mind.

sorry, did you just mention Josh Smith an intelligence in the same sentence?

Rondo would be his intelligence , run on the fast break and you'll score ;)

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2012, 07:43:39 PM »

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I say throw the kitchen sink at Love and see if Min will match. They may not needing to sign some other players in a couple years.

 If they do, do the same to Howard. Try to get a sign and trade for Smith and build a fast break team. But need to add a couple jump shooters to make it work. Green will help.

I much rather have Love, he's not talking about going to LA or NY to peruse movie careers. He just balls. Plus he's a better fit with Rondo. You have to same crashing the board play like Howard, but the guy can hit open jumpers. So he gets you boards and stretch's the D at the same time. You don't get that with Howard.

But realistically 2013 is were the C's will make real moves. Next year will be a transition year.

  2013
    Rondo
    Iguodala or Evens
    Green or
    Smith or Love or Millsap
    Cousins or Jefferson

  Some of these guys are restricted. But who knows what happens between now and then.

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2012, 07:46:40 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

which superstar Neurotic? the possibilities are few and far between...

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2012, 08:06:17 PM »

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J.R. Smith would be one of my priority targets.  I'd love his scoring & shooting ability and athleticism (and youth) alongside Rondo. 

2025 Draft: Chicago Bulls

PG: Chauncey Billups/Deron Williams
SG: Kobe Bryant/Eric Gordon
SF: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger/Danilo Gallinari
PF: Al Horford/Zion Williamson
C: Yao Ming/Pau Gasol/Tyson Chandler

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2012, 08:09:25 PM »

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we'll re-sign Ray and KG to cheaper contracts and sign Chris Kaman as our starting center.


Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2012, 08:16:02 PM »

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We should target OJ Mayo and try and get a center through the draft

Re: realistic Free agent/trade targets for the celtics in the offseason
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2012, 10:19:43 PM »

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One thing I say a lot in my work regarding systems change is that you need equal parts urgency and patience. 
Urgency will never be a problem to conjure as an NBA franchise --every GM/coach/owner is evaluated on a what have you done for me lately basis.  I would argue that too much urgency and not enough patience was a primary factor in the 22-year drought. 

If DA does what I hope he does in his rebuild, he will not spend the cap space on multiple above average talents if no super-talent is available, but rather will sustain a plan that will yield superstar talent within 3 years.  My guess is that many fans will not be happy with a plan that requires some patience.

About 60% of this board misses the years of lottery picks, this would be a godsend. That being said I would love to grab Josh Smith if Howard doesn't come, there is a huge difference between him and Charlie V...defensive ability and intelligence and athleticism all come to mind.

sorry, did you just mention Josh Smith an intelligence in the same sentence?

Rondo would be his intelligence , run on the fast break and you'll score ;)

Hes become a much better player the last few years since Woodson left Atlanta, excellent defensive player. Seems to take the game serious, which is refreshing from when he was first drafted. His intelligence was never questioned as much as his maturity.