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Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2011, 11:15:12 AM »

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DL Gerard Warren released
TE Dan Gronkowski signed

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Not sure I like this move. 

From everything I read, Warren had a solid camp and was providing a veteran voice & presence in the locker room.  Plus, I think depth on the D-line is more important than a 3rd TE right now.

Agreed.  Mike Reiss makes it seem as though Warren might be back in a week or so, but I'm skeptical -- it seems as though the league is making a run on all released Pats players...

Hope that's the case.


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Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2011, 12:40:47 PM »

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More moves coming ... I can feel the electricity in the air, (or maybe that was just the thunderstorm ;)). Bill sems to be jockeying for position with some of these recent moves. Anyone heard anymore on the Brady pitch to get Moss out of retirement?

Supposedly Moss wants to come out of retirement, but only to play for the Patriots...and Brady said in a recent interview that hed love to play with him again(also said he recently talked to randy)..it had to be a humbling experience for moss last year...and if he can buy into the concept that he wont be the #1 offensive option then id love to see it

I have a feelling we will see moss back on the pats this year......and that has to make teams scared...we could use him as a deep threat.

a 4 WR set with Branch/moss/ochocinco/welker? not to mention the TE's and HB's...it would be a nightmare for opposing defenses

Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2011, 01:16:27 PM »

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Can't say I'll miss Butler.

Cringed everytime someone threw his way.
Another busted 2nd round pick

I know how you feel about BB and drafting, but I don't know that I completely agree with you (but don't misinterpret that I am saying BB is a draft genius).

For someone that was a "bust", Butler was claimed pretty quickly off waivers.  Same could be said for Tate.
Well if those guys aren't busts then....um...hooray for some other team I guess.

Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2011, 01:19:11 PM »

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Can't say I'll miss Butler.

Cringed everytime someone threw his way.
Another busted 2nd round pick

I know how you feel about BB and drafting, but I don't know that I completely agree with you (but don't misinterpret that I am saying BB is a draft genius).

For someone that was a "bust", Butler was claimed pretty quickly off waivers.  Same could be said for Tate.
Well if those guys aren't busts then....um...hooray for some other team I guess.

Of course they are busts.  But its just par for the course in the NFL.  There just isn't a great success rate for any players beyond the first round.

Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »

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DL Gerard Warren released
TE Dan Gronkowski signed

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Not sure I like this move. 

From everything I read, Warren had a solid camp and was providing a veteran voice & presence in the locker room.  Plus, I think depth on the D-line is more important than a 3rd TE right now.
This is another thing starting to bug me. It's at the point it's hard for me to trust anything I read

Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2011, 08:18:30 PM »

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I've been thinking about it, and here's my theory that I was trying to articulate earlier, but was rushed.

I think there were basically 4 bubble players when the roster went from 80 to 53: Meriweather, Warren, Butler, and "TE" (Smith/Yeatman). The prevailing theory when cuts were made was that Meriweather was a legit cut, Warren and Butler made the team, and that the Pats were hoping to keep Yeatman/Smith on the practice squad. Under this theory, the Pats would be planning to go into week 1 with 2 active tight ends. However, if they were planning on going into week 1 with 2 tight ends, they would not have cut a player just to make room for Gronk II on the active roster; if they were planning on 2 tight ends for week 1 they would have just added the tight end to the practice squad to take the place of Smith/Yeatman on the squad. However, adding a new TE to the 53 roster for week 1 seems to pretty strongly say that they wanted 3 TE's on the roster, but that Yeatman/Smith weren't good enough to be that player. In other words, the clear preference was for 3 TE's, but the 'value' of keeping Warren/Butler on the team at that time was higher than keeping a bad player like Yeatman/Smith just to be the token 3rd TE. I think bellichek has clearly shown that he'd rather keep a player who can contribute at a duplicate position over keeping a player who he thinks can't contribute, even at a position of need.  However, when a player became available (Gronk II) that they thought could actually be a valuable 3rd TE, they then cut one of the other bubble players to add him.  After all, if Yeatman/Smith were worthwhile 3rd TE's they would have cut Butler/Warren to keep them, and they wouldn't have cut Warren/Butler to add a 3rd TE if they just wanted 2 active TE's and 1 practice squad TE.

As for the other signing, i'd guess that they felt they had adequate Corner depth, and adequate Defensive Tackle depth, and made a value/upside signing. Guy sounds like a smart player who could probably play some hybrid positions.

Re: Patriots 53 roster predictions
« Reply #81 on: October 20, 2011, 11:03:44 PM »

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