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Re: Workouts
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2011, 02:16:39 PM »

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I'd love to get Corey Stokes with that 2nd round pick. he's a sniper from deep and has great 2-guard size at 6'5.

Yeah C's can probably land him on the second round too. He can shoot pretty well. He can shoot off the driblle and off the catch. although he's not as fast and his pretty fair on defense but the C's can work that out.
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Re: Workouts
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2011, 03:24:30 PM »

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Other than Rondo Danny's picks have not been that stellar. The C's have been drafting on Potential in the first (Rondo, Bradley, Giddens) and taking role players in the 2nd (BBD, Harrangody, Erden) that are solid role players. Giddens was a bust and Bradley is a good kid but may not have the nerves and the BBIQ to make it.

Perhaps the C's should use their first round to get a solid role player who can contribute and pile up some players with potential by moving up in the 2nd round.

Spurs have shown much more consistent Draft performance using young players and vets much more effectively than C's.

Meh.  In '03, we got Marcus Banks (bust, although still in the League last I looked) and Perkins.  Technically via a trade with Memphis, but for all practical purposes those were our draft picks.

2004 was the Big Al Jeff/Delonte/TA draft.  That's about as good as you can do, particularly when considering that the picks were 15, 24, and 25.  Justin Reed was the 2nd rounder, he never quite panned out (although he looked like a rotation guy for a little while).

2005, Gerald Green (bust), Ryan Gomes (solid pick), Oriene Greene (sucked, but LATE 2nd rounder).

2006, got the pick to grab Rondo (brilliant selection, even with his flaws) and grabbed Powe.  Powe was a pretty [dang] good player before his last injuries, helped us win a game in the finals, but given that he was only available that late because of the injuries that pick was a wash.

2007, the Gabe Pruitt era.  He'd be considered a bust if he was picked much higher than he was.  Was this the year we got Baby Davis as well?

2008, Giddens (bust), Billie Walker (has done some things in NY), Semih (showed some flashes, he's about as good as anyone ever picked dead last in the draft).

2009, Lester Hudson.  Worthless but picked not much earlier than Semih.

2010, Avery Bradley.  Too soon to tell.

Way I look at it:
"Hits" based on their draft position were:
Big Al
Perk
Delonte
Tony Allen
Baby Davis
Rondo
Gomes

The pure busts were:
Gerald
Banks (maybe)
JR Giddens

"Better than expected, but still not great"
Powe (only because of injuries)
Semih

"Disappointing" guys (not very good, but drafted at spots where you don't expect to get good players):
Pruitt
Billie Walker
Justin Reed

Irrelevant; guys who sucked but who were drafted where your odds of getting someone who DOESN'T suck are <5%

Lester Hudson
Oriene Greene

I'd take that track record, I'd be surprised if you looked at the complete track records of any other team in the league you'd see anyone that was a helluva lot better. 

IIRC, that Gerald Green pick could have been Danny Granger pretty easily.  Green and Granger were the two obvious picks at that spot in the draft; Indiana was ahead of us and guessed right.

Yes there were some blockbuster years when they has good picks; however recent picks of Bradley, Giddens and Pruitt have me concerned.

Another way to look at this would be to list all the Vets that did not pan out. This is a far longer list that the list of draft picks that did not pan out. PJ Brown was great; but for every PJ Brown there was a Miki Moore and a Kandiman. So the idea of going with Vets who have limited upside or limited professional resume's has not worked out. Even the Starbury's and Cassel's may have not done any harm (on the court at least); but they got in the way of allowing younger players to add a spark off the bench. Youth is the way to go and San Antonio has mixed Vets and youth better than the C's.

Re: Workouts
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2011, 09:46:07 AM »

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with reggie jackson pulling out of workouts my gut feeling is he is going to the Cs. My guess is danny knew from the start that he wanted reggie and gave him the promise at #25. Looking at the list of guys the Cs have worked out i think danny is looking for the bigs who may fall from late 1st early second to later in the second round. This leaves guys like Harper, Leur,benson, Vuvcevic, and skeen to either be around at 55 or the celtics move up in the 2nd round (late 30s early 40s) to grap one of these bigs.

That would explain why the celtics havent workout out any player projected to go 20-25 but have worked out alot of 25-45 guys.   
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