Shelden Williams very good D

[Bankshot]

one note on rasheed, he really does play good defense
i have no idea why he thinks he needs to shoot more than 3 threes a game (remember when mchale found that shot )

Shelden Williams I feel is better than davis in all aspects except defensive rotations.  They will be fighting over pt (in my mind) maybe not docs.  I feel shelden does ONE THING better than any big even kg...he continues to move his feet on rebounds.  This is our big problem.  When a shot goes up we don't have a   (sorry to use his name) dennis rodman type player who will go after rebounds.  All our bigs tend to stay where they are when shot goes up.  Larry Bird was a GREAT rebounder because of this, he boxed out but would continue to get into posistion to get the rebound.  Sheldon keeps the ball alive better than most on our team.

Well, I don't think Shelden is better at anything than Davis other than rebounding, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[2short]

one note on rasheed, he really does play good defense
i have no idea why he thinks he needs to shoot more than 3 threes a game (remember when mchale found that shot )

Shelden Williams I feel is better than davis in all aspects except defensive rotations.  They will be fighting over pt (in my mind) maybe not docs.  I feel shelden does ONE THING better than any big even kg...he continues to move his feet on rebounds.  This is our big problem.  When a shot goes up we don't have a   (sorry to use his name) dennis rodman type player who will go after rebounds.  All our bigs tend to stay where they are when shot goes up.  Larry Bird was a GREAT rebounder because of this, he boxed out but would continue to get into posistion to get the rebound.  Sheldon keeps the ball alive better than most on our team.

Well, I don't think Shelden is better at anything than Davis other than rebounding, but you're entitled to your opinion.

thank you

another thought on glen , he's a me first player which is why powe or williams will be guys in my book for 4th big off a bench

[Birdbrain]

one note on rasheed, he really does play good defense
i have no idea why he thinks he needs to shoot more than 3 threes a game (remember when mchale found that shot )

Shelden Williams I feel is better than davis in all aspects except defensive rotations.  They will be fighting over pt (in my mind) maybe not docs.  I feel shelden does ONE THING better than any big even kg...he continues to move his feet on rebounds.  This is our big problem.  When a shot goes up we don't have a   (sorry to use his name) dennis rodman type player who will go after rebounds.  All our bigs tend to stay where they are when shot goes up.  Larry Bird was a GREAT rebounder because of this, he boxed out but would continue to get into posistion to get the rebound.  Sheldon keeps the ball alive better than most on our team.

Well, I don't think Shelden is better at anything than Davis other than rebounding, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Agreed and that rebound better not be in traffic or it will be fumbled away.

[Birdbrain]

one note on rasheed, he really does play good defense
i have no idea why he thinks he needs to shoot more than 3 threes a game (remember when mchale found that shot )

Shelden Williams I feel is better than davis in all aspects except defensive rotations.  They will be fighting over pt (in my mind) maybe not docs.  I feel shelden does ONE THING better than any big even kg...he continues to move his feet on rebounds.  This is our big problem.  When a shot goes up we don't have a   (sorry to use his name) dennis rodman type player who will go after rebounds.  All our bigs tend to stay where they are when shot goes up.  Larry Bird was a GREAT rebounder because of this, he boxed out but would continue to get into posistion to get the rebound.  Sheldon keeps the ball alive better than most on our team.

Well, I don't think Shelden is better at anything than Davis other than rebounding, but you're entitled to your opinion.

thank you

another thought on glen , he's a me first player which is why powe or williams will be guys in my book for 4th big off a bench

Powe thanks for the telling me all I need to know.

[Fafnir]

BTW I just looked up the hoopsnumbers +/- stats.

It does support the Williams boosters in a big way.

[Birdbrain]

BTW I just looked up the hoopsnumbers +/- stats.

It does support the Williams boosters in a big way.

Thank God no coaches would never use stats to determine who plays.  It's a nice conversation piece though.

[kozlodoev]

BTW I just looked up the hoopsnumbers +/- stats.

It does support the Williams boosters in a big way.

Thank God no coaches would never use stats to determine who plays.  It's a nice conversation piece though.

Coaches use stats all the time -- just not the ones you'll typically find the fans and the media raving about.

[xmuscularghandix]

Shelden is a good defender, and he doesn't turn the ball over (according to the stat sheet) But when i watch him i see his hands of rock just drop passes ALL THE TIME. I was screaming the other night. It seems like 4 plays in a row: The Dunk, Arenas pulled up in his face, he couldn't handle the pass, Jamison OREB and score over him.

[Potapenko Boxout]

for a team that is having trouble with rebounding, Shelden should obviously be playing in place of Brian Scalabrine. I know that Marquis is out and that's the argument to play Scal as a small 4, but it really makes no sense to me because Scal is very frustrating to watch IMO. Shelden may be undersized but he is by far and away our best "big man" off the bench (sorry Sheed, get down in the paint and then we can talk) 

[kozlodoev]

for a team that is having trouble with rebounding, Shelden should obviously be playing in place of Brian Scalabrine. I know that Marquis is out and that's the argument to play Scal as a small 4, but it really makes no sense to me because Scal is very frustrating to watch IMO. Shelden may be undersized but he is by far and away our best "big man" off the bench (sorry Sheed, get down in the paint and then we can talk) 

No, no, and sadly, again no.

We've been having exactly the same problems with rebounding when Williams was playing, so his presence doesn't seem to solve anything.

The fact something doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it's wrong.

Rasheed defends opposing PFs and C. This makes him a big man. I don't quite see how anyone in their right mind can make the argument that Shelden Williams is the best big man off our bench. He's fifth-string when everyone is healthy, so expect more DNP-CDs in the future.

[Fafnir]

BTW I just looked up the hoopsnumbers +/- stats.

It does support the Williams boosters in a big way.

Thank God no coaches would never use stats to determine who plays.  It's a nice conversation piece though.

GMs use similar stats to help them construct rosters. Soon enough coaches will use it too.

[P2]

I can't understand Doc's relutance to play some guys. Shelden Willimas has been doing a great job on defense, where he's a much more ahtletic, agile post defender than Rasheed.
Brendan Haywood was killing us in the paint and Shelden did a great job on him. He's great on D and solid on offense (49% FG and 81% FT), so why not play him as Perk's real backup?

Because against many opponents Shelden gets lots of defensive rotations, he also gives up some extra height.

You also need to consider he's a pretty bad offensive player. He fumbled 3 posessions that should have been dunks last night. His 49& FG is pretty awful for a player who takes the sort of shots he does.

Those missed dunks made me want to cry.  He has no leaping ability at all - never have I seen somebody that tall and that long have that much trouble dunking.

Then you haven't seen him play at all. He is one of the above average athletic big man.

[Birdbrain]

BTW I just looked up the hoopsnumbers +/- stats.

It does support the Williams boosters in a big way.

Thank God no coaches would never use stats to determine who plays.  It's a nice conversation piece though.

Coaches use stats all the time -- just not the ones you'll typically find the fans and the media raving about.

I'm sorry to be more precise I'm 99.99999% sure no NBA coach will use +/- to determine who plays their back up PF minutes.  Let's just see what happens after BBD comes back.  I believe Sheldon will be relegated to mop up duty.