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Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« on: July 03, 2016, 10:01:13 PM »

Offline Ogaju

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going to GSW and winning one championship or going to Boston  winning multiple MVPs and going to multiple finals but no ring.

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2016, 10:09:23 PM »

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Uhhhh let me think hmmmm

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2016, 10:12:17 PM »

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Golden State lost.

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2016, 10:16:19 PM »

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Winning a title.
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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 10:20:01 PM »

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Winning a title.

MVPs.  Who do most people consider the better player?  Russell or Chamberlain?  Outside of Boston, they all have Chamberlain.  Charles Barkley seems to be doing ok.

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 10:29:19 PM »

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Here is how I look at it.  Signing with GS will be exactly like when Ray Allen left for Miami.  OKC will hate him.  If it is the C's, OKC would be mad but get over it.  YOU DONT GO TO A PLAYOFF RIVAL !!!  It looks really bad.  If he doesn't go to Boston, I hope its OKC because I want to still like him.  IMO GS and Spurs would be a chump move.
KG's # may end up in the gardens rafters.  Ray's has no chance.

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2016, 10:32:07 PM »

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Here is how I look at it.  Signing with GS will be exactly like when Ray Allen left for Miami.  OKC will hate him.  If it was the C's, OKC would be mad but get over it.  YOU DONT GO TO A PLAYOFF RIVAL !!!  It looks really bad.  If he doesn't go to Boston, I hope its OKC because I want to still like him.  IMO GS and Spurs would be a chump move.
KG's # may end up in the gardens rafters.  Ray's has no chance.

Ray was ten years older than Durant when he started chasing rings.  That's a big difference.

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2016, 10:54:22 PM »

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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2016, 10:56:00 PM »

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going to GSW and winning one championship or going to Boston  winning multiple MVPs and going to multiple finals but no ring.
Going to Boston and contending with 0 rings is better for his legacy than going to Golden State and helping them win 6 rings.

They are already on top.  They just had the greatest regular season in history.  He'll deserve no credit if they stay on top.

I'll tell you what... if He goes to Golden State, Curry suddenly regresses to a side-kick, Durant leads the team in all statistical categories, they win 80 games and a championship with him as Finals MVP, I'll give him a little credit.   Anything less than that, he's an anti-competitive loser who joined the best regular season team ever that he couldn't beat.

You can't even compare this to LeBron.  This is 10x worse than what LeBron did.   Miami was a 47 win team that he and Bosh joined.  Arguably a worse team than the 48 win Celtic team Durant and Horford would be joining. 

This would be like if in 2008, after LeBron failed to defeat the Celtics in 7 games... he decided to piggyback on their 66 win Celtics champion - only if the 66 win champion had been a 73 win record-setter built around guys in their 20s - as opposed to veterans in their early 30s all slightly past their prime.
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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2016, 11:06:31 PM »

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Well, it's not as simple as that.

First, there's honestly no indication that GS would win anything more with Durant than Boston would with Durant. They have many more questions about fit, chemistry, and the surrounding cast than Boston. Sure, talent is nice, but there are several recent teams with high levels of talent that lack some combination of fit, chemistry, or a strong supporting cast that haven't done crap.

Also, the question itself is flawed. It should be something like this:

Should Durant choose to still lead a team as the best player and still possibly win multiple MVPs and title versus give up MVP hopes for a slightly better chance at a title by joining a team that has:
A) a two-time reigning MVP
B) three All-Stars
C) just beat the all-time regular season record
D) established itself as a legitimate title contender without Durant.

That makes the question a bit more realistic of what's going on.

Also, I asked this question earlier and nobody answered it - has there ever been a team where the previous MVP has teamed up with the multiple-time reigning MVP to take down the team of another former multiple-time MVP that neither of them seem to be able to beat?
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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 11:19:13 PM »

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Well, it's not as simple as that.

First, there's honestly no indication that GS would win anything more with Durant than Boston would with Durant. They have many more questions about fit, chemistry, and the surrounding cast than Boston. Sure, talent is nice, but there are several recent teams with high levels of talent that lack some combination of fit, chemistry, or a strong supporting cast that haven't done crap.

Also, the question itself is flawed. It should be something like this:

Should Durant choose to still lead a team as the best player and still possibly win multiple MVPs and title versus give up MVP hopes for a slightly better chance at a title by joining a team that has:
A) a two-time reigning MVP
B) three All-Stars
C) just beat the all-time regular season record
D) established itself as a legitimate title contender without Durant.

That makes the question a bit more realistic of what's going on.

Also, I asked this question earlier and nobody answered it - has there ever been a team where the previous MVP has teamed up with the multiple-time reigning MVP to take down the team of another former multiple-time MVP that neither of them seem to be able to beat?

I'm willing to concede that it's more likely that Durant wins a title in GS, but there are two caveats on that..

1) Bogut is healthy, or they find another quality big(s) to support Mo Speights, a very poor man's Horford tbh

2) Someone (Klay) is prepared to seriously take a back seat - only reason Heat did so well was due to Bosh playing ball

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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2016, 11:22:51 PM »

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Well, it's not as simple as that.

First, there's honestly no indication that GS would win anything more with Durant than Boston would with Durant. They have many more questions about fit, chemistry, and the surrounding cast than Boston. Sure, talent is nice, but there are several recent teams with high levels of talent that lack some combination of fit, chemistry, or a strong supporting cast that haven't done crap.

Also, the question itself is flawed. It should be something like this:

Should Durant choose to still lead a team as the best player and still possibly win multiple MVPs and title versus give up MVP hopes for a slightly better chance at a title by joining a team that has:
A) a two-time reigning MVP
B) three All-Stars
C) just beat the all-time regular season record
D) established itself as a legitimate title contender without Durant.

That makes the question a bit more realistic of what's going on.

Also, I asked this question earlier and nobody answered it - has there ever been a team where the previous MVP has teamed up with the multiple-time reigning MVP to take down the team of another former multiple-time MVP that neither of them seem to be able to beat?

I'm willing to concede that it's more likely that Durant wins a title in GS, but there are two caveats on that..

1) Bogut is healthy, or they find another quality big(s) to support Mo Speights, a very poor man's Horford tbh

2) Someone (Klay) is prepared to seriously take a back seat - only reason Heat did so well was due to Bosh playing ball

The problem is that they'll have to lose Bogut to get KD lol So that's just another mark against them.

As for the step back comments, these guys are in their prime, which was much different than the Miami situation. And they're even worse in GS, because they legitimately have no definition of a bad shot. There will certainly be friction there between their already terrible shot selection and having to share shots with another MVP-type talent that is used to shooting 30 times a night.
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Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2016, 11:32:47 PM »

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don't worry, he is not going to GSW.

He is Boston's all the way. Only a late push from OKC can mess this up!!

Re: Which is better for Durant's Legacy
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2016, 11:35:20 PM »

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Well, it's not as simple as that.

First, there's honestly no indication that GS would win anything more with Durant than Boston would with Durant. They have many more questions about fit, chemistry, and the surrounding cast than Boston. Sure, talent is nice, but there are several recent teams with high levels of talent that lack some combination of fit, chemistry, or a strong supporting cast that haven't done crap.

Also, the question itself is flawed. It should be something like this:

Should Durant choose to still lead a team as the best player and still possibly win multiple MVPs and title versus give up MVP hopes for a slightly better chance at a title by joining a team that has:
A) a two-time reigning MVP
B) three All-Stars
C) just beat the all-time regular season record
D) established itself as a legitimate title contender without Durant.

That makes the question a bit more realistic of what's going on.

Also, I asked this question earlier and nobody answered it - has there ever been a team where the previous MVP has teamed up with the multiple-time reigning MVP to take down the team of another former multiple-time MVP that neither of them seem to be able to beat?

I'm willing to concede that it's more likely that Durant wins a title in GS, but there are two caveats on that..

1) Bogut is healthy, or they find another quality big(s) to support Mo Speights, a very poor man's Horford tbh

2) Someone (Klay) is prepared to seriously take a back seat - only reason Heat did so well was due to Bosh playing ball

The problem is that they'll have to lose Bogut to get KD lol So that's just another mark against them.

As for the step back comments, these guys are in their prime, which was much different than the Miami situation. And they're even worse in GS, because they legitimately have no definition of a bad shot. There will certainly be friction there between their already terrible shot selection and having to share shots with another MVP-type talent that is used to shooting 30 times a night.

True, but unlike Miami with Wade and Lebron, at least Curry, Thompson, and Durant can shoot, lol ;D.