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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2016, 09:27:45 PM »

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2 ) Bender has the highest upside and is the youngest . He has elite length for a PF , a position we desperately need help at  .   

A guy with a 27" vertical does not have a ton of upside.

I don't think David Pick has sources with the C's

http://bleacherreport.com/users/314778-david-pick

definitely not impressed with this article nor the writing.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2624038-veteran-nba-referee-joey-crawford-right-up-there-with-michael-kobe-lebron

There is a reason he is covering the teams over there and not here.   Hint, its not that he likes to travel.

Now if Wojo said it, I would think differently

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2016, 09:44:17 PM »

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2 ) Bender has the highest upside and is the youngest . He has elite length for a PF , a position we desperately need help at  .   

A guy with a 27" vertical does not have a ton of upside.

7-footers with 7'2" wingspans tend to need to jump less.  The advantage of being tall.  Also, I'd be surprised if the highest he ever jumps in his life is when he's 17, which is when the jump I assume you're quoting was taken.

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2016, 09:48:15 PM »

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Don't make this mistake Danny. Bender is not what u want

Don't worry.  Boston loves him ? Lol

Until I see it reading Danny and or CBS loves him, I don't believe it.   Who is this source anyways?? 

Come on eddie20. Nice try

Try google, boy.

And?? Still who is this source?  Is he credible like woj

Give it up

David Pick is a well known scout in Europe. He does a regular chat with basketball insiders on euro players. He's not a dud source, bvur the Celtics are always gping to say they love Bender even if they don't because it makes it appear harder for them to give up as much if they trade that pick.

Makes me think there are some other teams that really want Bender.
We could really want him but even if we didn't, the dmart thing would be to day we do love him incase a potential trade comes along.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-overseas-chat-with-david-pick-32815/
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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2016, 09:51:25 PM »

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Don't make this mistake Danny. Bender is not what u want

Don't worry.  Boston loves him ? Lol

Until I see it reading Danny and or CBS loves him, I don't believe it.   Who is this source anyways?? 

Come on eddie20. Nice try

Try google, boy.

And?? Still who is this source?  Is he credible like woj

Give it up

David Pick is a well known scout in Europe. He does a regular chat with basketball insiders on euro players. He's not a dud source, bvur the Celtics are always gping to say they love Bender even if they don't because it makes it appear harder for them to give up as much if they trade that pick.

Makes me think there are some other teams that really want Bender.
We could really want him but even if we didn't, the dmart thing would be to day we do love him incase a potential trade comes along.

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/chat/nba-overseas-chat-with-david-pick-32815/

true.  These days the prospects/agents are upset bc teams are giving them false hopes left and right.   Better to do this, than be honest and fail at a chance to grab them later (if they blossom)

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2016, 10:10:48 PM »

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2 ) Bender has the highest upside and is the youngest . He has elite length for a PF , a position we desperately need help at  .   

A guy with a 27" vertical does not have a ton of upside.

I don't think David Pick has sources with the C's

http://bleacherreport.com/users/314778-david-pick

definitely not impressed with this article nor the writing.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2624038-veteran-nba-referee-joey-crawford-right-up-there-with-michael-kobe-lebron

There is a reason he is covering the teams over there and not here.   Hint, its not that he likes to travel.

Now if Wojo said it, I would think differently

What was Dirk's vert? Bird's?

Man, the statement in bold is so narrow minded. Have you been anywhere outside of the US?

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2016, 10:33:18 PM »

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2 ) Bender has the highest upside and is the youngest . He has elite length for a PF , a position we desperately need help at  .   

A guy with a 27" vertical does not have a ton of upside.

I don't think David Pick has sources with the C's

http://bleacherreport.com/users/314778-david-pick

definitely not impressed with this article nor the writing.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2624038-veteran-nba-referee-joey-crawford-right-up-there-with-michael-kobe-lebron

There is a reason he is covering the teams over there and not here.   Hint, its not that he likes to travel.

Now if Wojo said it, I would think differently

What was Dirk's vert? Bird's?

Man, the statement in bold is so narrow minded. Have you been anywhere outside of the US?

Take a chill pill Eddie20.    Not everyone wants the Celtics to draft Bender.  Like you don't want xyz drafted




Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2016, 11:58:02 PM »

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Don't make this mistake Danny. Bender is not what u want

I tend to agree - I don't see a Bender pick turning out well.  I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.  Will be thoroughly disappointed if that's who we take at #3.

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2016, 12:47:20 AM »

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Don't make this mistake Danny. Bender is not what u want

I tend to agree - I don't see a Bender pick turning out well.  I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.  Will be thoroughly disappointed if that's who we take at #3.

I was absolutely heartbroken sad when we got only the third pick, I'm not gonna lie, but I really look forward to the Bender-Rage and Bender-Boner arguments that will kick off here soon.

He will need his own Section between Celtics Talk and Celtics History. Just "Bender".
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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2016, 12:53:20 AM »

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Don't make this mistake Danny. Bender is not what u want

I tend to agree - I don't see a Bender pick turning out well.  I could be wrong, but I just don't see it.  Will be thoroughly disappointed if that's who we take at #3.

I was absolutely heartbroken sad when we got only the third pick, I'm not gonna lie, but I really look forward to the Bender-Rage and Bender-Boner arguments that will kick off here soon.

He will need his own Section between Celtics Talk and Celtics History. Just "Bender".

This is hilarious, TP!
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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2016, 01:30:36 AM »

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Draft workout could really change my mind. I didn't like the Rozier pick last season and now i'm impressed with the rookie.

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2016, 01:51:16 AM »

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The Bender debate highlights how much missing one of those first two picks hurts. I am not sure he is what is 'best available' at 3, though if he can develop he could fill a need later rather than sooner. If we go Bender then I get a sense that we are headed for another season of rebuild and other pieces through trade and free agency will come later. Big name all star pieces anyway.

If we pass on Bender by choosing someone else or using the pick for a trade, it wouldn't surprise me if he drops a number of spots. A lot of teams with high picks beyond the top 2 will be looking for NBA ready players.

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #71 on: May 19, 2016, 01:55:46 AM »

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The Bender debate highlights how much missing one of those first two picks hurts. I am not sure he is what is 'best available' at 3, though if he can develop he could fill a need later rather than sooner. If we go Bender then I get a sense that we are headed for another season of rebuild and other pieces through trade and free agency will come later. Big name all star pieces anyway.

If we pass on Bender by choosing someone else or using the pick for a trade, it wouldn't surprise me if he drops a number of spots. A lot of teams with high picks beyond the top 2 will be looking for NBA ready players.

The Suns will pick up Bender if the Celtics don't choose him.

Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #72 on: May 19, 2016, 03:34:25 AM »

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The team needs multiple big men, however they can get them.  If they think Bender's going to be one of them, draft away.  Somehow, by hook or by crook, Ainge has to bring in bigs.  It can pick up a floor spreading wing down the road.


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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #73 on: May 19, 2016, 04:15:53 AM »

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It's about time we bring a Modern day Big to the team. Basically one that fits CBS system. Floor spacing big man with a reliable jumpshot. See that's the trick though, those are rare lol xD and the taller the big, the more intriguing so hopefully we have talent which impress strongly during the workouts. The quest to find our own draymond or a better one might finally be close. Patience though! We have a core and we need to make sure we don't make unecessary loves which I'm sure is the reason why Ainge is as chill as a rock ^^ let's wait for workouts first :) 
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Re: Rumor: Celtics love Bender
« Reply #74 on: May 19, 2016, 04:55:36 AM »

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Just because the dude is tall and can stretch the floor doesn't make him a Kelly Olynyk comparison. If you watch what little video exists Bender is much more fluid than Kelly, and can switch onto multiple positions that Kelly cannot. He's a plus defender, a strong (though there are conflicting numbers) 3 point shooter, and a great floor runner. You probably couldn't create a player more suited to DA and CBS in a prototyping machine. The only other pick at 3 I could even see is Hield, and that would come with the obligation to trade away... Marcus or Avery. I like Hield, and I wouldn't be sad if we took him over Bender, but if we keep the pick, I am thinking 80% Bender, 20% Hield. Bender has been pretty much the consensus Number 3 pick for MONTHS. Hield addresses our most glaring weakness (which is no longer rim protection, which is second on the list). He is an elite shooter, and an improved slasher, with a reasonable handle. The question is, does he have enough upside? he is not a freakish athlete, and he is a 4 year college player (though I think he did himself a service staying for 4 years).

Murray -- Not a position of need, no elite athleticism (not saying he will not be a good player, just not a good player for us, burried in rotation)

Dunn -- We have "point" guards that cant see the floor currently under contract. We do not need another one. He doesnt want to play here (I guess because of the logjam), He cant shoot.

Brown -- Elite athleticism. NO JUMPER. Does play a position of moderate need, wouldn't be bad behind Jae Crowder, but I think solid starter is the ceiling. He is a Danny Ainge type of player though, I wouldn't love this pick, but it might happen.

Revised Pick %'s (Based on keen guesswork and tomfoolery):

Bender: 70%
Hield:    20%
Brown:  10%