So Wyc Grousbeck and Danny Ainge pretty much confirmed we're getting Kevin Love

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

I agree. Just having Rondo and Love would make Boston better than the Knicks. And if we still had, say, Green and KO as well, so much the better.

[playdream]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

Interesting. So you're saying that if we just use all of our picks then they will all turn into super duper stars and we will win many Championships?

No, there is no guarantee any of our draft picks will turn into anything at all.

Acquiring a top 5 player in the NBA = bad idea now?

Alright then.

I didn't say that

[LarBrd33]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

Trading for Love would be HUGE.  He's 25 years old.  You can't call that short-sighted.  He could be the franchise player here for the next 8-10 years.  Rondo is a nice veteran, but he's not a franchise player... he might not even be an all-star anymore.

Love is a Top 5 player in this league.  Top 10 at worst... Top 3 at best.   Do you realize how difficult it is to land a player like that?  There's about 450 players in this league and 30 teams... Top 5 players don't reach the market often.  You have to jump at the opportunity to get them in the rare instance they become available.   On the other hand, if you want to acquire 1st rounders 2-4 years down the line from teams currently in the playoffs, they are infinitely easier to acquire. 

[BballTim]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

[bogg]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

Well, if Love is sent to Boston any future Celtics picks are almost certainly going to be in the second half of the first round, as is the Clippers pick next year. That leaves the Brooklyn picks, but I don't think you really want to be giving those up because you need them to pursue the next star that becomes available to really put a contender on the floor.

[BballTim]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

Well, if Love is sent to Boston any future Celtics picks are almost certainly going to be in the second half of the first round, as is the Clippers pick next year. That leaves the Brooklyn picks, but I don't think you really want to be giving those up because you need them to pursue the next star that becomes available to really put a contender on the floor.

  ...meaning those picks aren't just "filler".

[bogg]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

Well, if Love is sent to Boston any future Celtics picks are almost certainly going to be in the second half of the first round, as is the Clippers pick next year. That leaves the Brooklyn picks, but I don't think you really want to be giving those up because you need them to pursue the next star that becomes available to really put a contender on the floor.

  ...meaning those picks aren't just "filler".

The Brooklyn picks? If you're surrendering those, you're likely to prove the skeptics worried about maxing out as a second-round-and-out team correct. The picks that Boston has to offer aside from the #6 and the Brooklyn picks are largely filler. They carry some value, but nobody's building a trade for an all-star around two or three picks in the twenties.

[doinky]

One of my theories that's been gaining steam in my brain the past few weeks whilst these Love rumors are floating about and as I've been reading more and more people saying they really don't want Love that much is that I don't think people realize how good this guy is.

Not sure if you guys do the whole League Pass thing (I do), and I watch a lot of basketball. Kevin Love is arguably the 3rd or 4th best offensive player in the game behind/ahead/tied with James Harden. Do people realize that Kevin Love is UNGUARDABLE?

That in the pick and pop he can make 3 pointers like they are lay ups?

 That his range is silky smooth from 26 ft in?

That he has underrated athleticism and can go to the rim and challenge elite shot blockers/draw fouls against them?

That he is the best rebounder in the league?

That he is the best outlet passer in the league and as a result makes everyone on the team better?
Lord almighty, I can't imagine how much Rondo would love to reel in 60 ft passes from Love all game to ignite the fast break and transition offense.

His defense is getting severely underrated too. He puts good effort in. It seems like people just love to run with the stereotype that he doesn't play D because it's easier than actually watching games and forming an opinion for yourself.

If we get Love, Celtics fans are going to fall in love with him from the moment he steps onto the parquet.

Right on. Love is a beast. And yes, you could do a lot worse defensively. I think a lot of people around just haven't really seen him play. If Ainge can get him, he will.

As far as him not making the playoffs, well...basketball is a team sport, last I heard. No one makes the playoffs (especially in the west) without help.

[LarBrd33]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

I think you are missing my point Tim.  Brooklyn made the playoffs this year.  If we're desperate to have 2016 and 2018 picks from teams currently in the playoffs, I'm sure we can get them.  I'm pretty certain it would be easier to acquire a 2018 pick from Dallas than it would be to acquire a franchise player like Kevin Love.

Who knows what Brooklyn, Dallas, Memphis, etc will look like in 2-4 years.  Maybe they will be good picks... maybe not.  I guess people are assuming Brooklyn will be a bad team... big market team with an owner willing to spend, I doubt it.

[BballTim]

Trading for Love is a short-sighted move, we will become the Knicks/Houston that will never
truly contend but just a joke
I think Danny has patience to not do the dumb move

No we wouldn't our future is brighter than the Knicks we'd still be in good shape even if we gave up half our assets

Our best asset is the #6 pick... after that it's basically a lot of filler.  #17 pick... future picks in probably in the 20-30 range... role players like Sully and Kelly...  The #6 pick has a chance to be something significant... slim chance any of the other pieces turn into star caliber players.

   Obviously you have no idea where in the draft those future picks will fall. They might not be as valuable as a pick that's known to be #6 but it's silly to just call them "filler".

I think you are missing my point Tim.  Brooklyn made the playoffs this year.  If we're desperate to have 2016 and 2018 picks from teams currently in the playoffs, I'm sure we can get them.  I'm pretty certain it would be easier to acquire a 2018 pick from Dallas than it would be to acquire a franchise player like Kevin Love.

Who knows what Brooklyn, Dallas, Memphis, etc will look like in 2-4 years.  Maybe they will be good picks... maybe not.  I guess people are assuming Brooklyn will be a bad team... big market team with an owner willing to spend, I doubt it.

  Ellis is probably the only decent talent on Dallas that will be in the league in a few years. If you think you could easily pry their unprotected 2016 or 2018 draft picks from them we should do it. And you seem to be agreeing with my statement.

[LennyBruce]

Well he just opted out of his contract so...

[BudweiserCeltic]

Point of bumping this old ass topic?

[rondohondo]

Well he just opted out of his contract so...

stop trolling

[JSD]

Of course, there will be someone in this thread that tries to convince others that those two guys weren't talking about Kevin Love.

Don't know what else to say, man.

You guys get ready for another star to join the Celtics in the coming months, especially if and when Kevin Love comes to town.

Note: It's important to let some of you guys know (those who will think that I am just a Kevin Love fan being overly optimistic) that I'm not a Kevin Love fan. I enjoyed when KG would get all motivated and embarrass Love when playing against him. I know Love plays 0 defense and doesn't even come close to representing any leadership qualities whatsoever. It's an insult to KG to compare those two guys. But let's be real, a star (considered a "star" by the rest of the NBA) who has yet to enter his prime and is already putting up solid numbers is a lot better than spending the next 2-5 years with the thought at the beginning of each year that "this will be the year we become good."

Lastly, you can't be serious telling me that Danny Ainge wasn't referring to Kevin Love when he specifically said that he wouldn't mind trading for a star in his last year of contract who doesn't agree to an extension, especially at a time when all the Kevin Love rumors are at full speed. Wyc also saying "we will end up packaging some of those...that's under consideration as soon as this week or next"? That's just too much to say that we are reading too much into it and they didn't mean it.

Especially with Ainge referring to the trade for star in his last year of contract

Solid bump.

[badshar]

Wow this is like a year old lol