Powell Sent to Maine

[sofutomygaha]

Found this on Red Claws page

"Dwight Powell – who joined the team today from the Boston Celtics – made the most of his Red Claws debut. Powell finished with 29 points. The 6-foot-11 big man threw down a couple dazzling dunks, scoring 19 in the second half and a perfect 11-for-11 from the free throw line."

http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/powell_babb_lead_redwhite_sc_2014_11_09.html

cue the cb calls for his entry into the HOF. 

Kid can ball! Legit! A poor man's Blake Griffin! A rich man's Aaron Gordon! A lower-middle class single mom with big dreams's Brandon Wright!

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Same deal oatmeal...!

Actually it is quite different.   We cut loose Johnson and Babb.   Then we traded Bogans and our two 2nd rounder from Sacramento 2015 and 2017 both top 55 protected for Powell and 2 2nd round picks in 2016 and 2017 and netted a 5.3 million trade exception.

A draft is  one player, we got picks and gave up picks in this deal, and cut salary.

Powell needs to play now, I think sending him to Maine is the right answer.  We are not the Spurs, they have had a lot of the same parts for years.   This team is very different and next's years will be different too.

I say play the guy and see how he does with NBA players with him, passes from Rondo ect. We are not SA......irrelevant....All can learn from a coach who makes the right choices regardless. Some play in the D league is good, but not much. It is a "look at me" showcase. SA shows you can develop players using better players and playing time versus real competition. ALL teams should learn from this. It matters little where or how we got the guy. Babb and Johnson were good, be we have too many guards. Not enough good big men. A player who can dunk and plays big inside......sounds good to me. you can have your opinion, I will speak mine. Especially from referencing a system that works.

[Celtics4ever]

Do you really think SA is a template.   I think they are a really rare organization that has made all the right moves.   It won't be that easy to copy.   They got lucky in Duncan's acquisition, really lucky.   They drafted well and got a lot out of their guys.   I think Stevens does spread the ball on offense and has some of the guys playing way above their level of talent.   So it's a start but if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Of course it is a template.....Do you realize how much a veteran like Tim Duncan learns over the years...the HARD way.....think about him teaching that to a rookie the easy way......then playing with these guys....real time....practice is false.....only other teams will show you.....guys who want that ball, or your head....then working with parker.....who, like rondo, directs the floor, so he can get you the ball where you are best with it.....Look how popovich sits his stars.....Nov-Jan is the time of year to develop your talent.......make your 2nd string 1st string possible....how..PLAY them..at least then you'll know what you have......or use them for trade bait....Have you ever played league or pick up..? If so, how did you play versus scrubs....? Same as all of us...not your best.....why...no challenge..and it is enough to protect yourself from the crazy things scrubs do.....SAME as the D league compared to the NBA.....Guys will only get better playing with the BEST...and with the teaching and SUPPORT of your team....even though mistakes, ect....but....that is just my stance.....

[LooseCannon]

I say play the guy and see how he does with NBA players with him, passes from Rondo ect. We are not SA......irrelevant....All can learn from a coach who makes the right choices regardless. Some play in the D league is good, but not much. It is a "look at me" showcase. SA shows you can develop players using better players and playing time versus real competition. ALL teams should learn from this. It matters little where or how we got the guy. Babb and Johnson were good, be we have too many guards. Not enough good big men. A player who can dunk and plays big inside......sounds good to me. you can have your opinion, I will speak mine. Especially from referencing a system that works.

I look at how the Spurs have developed guys like Aron Baynes and Cory Joseph into useful bench contributors and suggest that sending Powell to the D-League for some games is exactly what the Spurs would do.

[TheFlex]

Found this on Red Claws page

"Dwight Powell – who joined the team today from the Boston Celtics – made the most of his Red Claws debut. Powell finished with 29 points. The 6-foot-11 big man threw down a couple dazzling dunks, scoring 19 in the second half and a perfect 11-for-11 from the free throw line."

http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/powell_babb_lead_redwhite_sc_2014_11_09.html

cue the cb calls for his entry into the HOF. 

Kid can ball! Legit! A poor man's Blake Griffin! A rich man's Aaron Gordon! A lower-middle class single mom with big dreams's Brandon Wright!

Lol, TP.

[CFAN38]

I think he will thrive in the D-League. In the NBA I ultimately could see him developing into a Jared Jeffires type utility player. Capable of defending big 3s, 4s and smaller 5s.

or a Birdman (defensive player who came from the D-League) who also happens to be very athletic

I don't know much about Powell but I think his game is more on the offensive end as opposed to Birdman being an above average defender.

I agree with you that he has a more developed offensive skill set then Jeffires or Birdman. His offensive skill set may ultimately be similar to that of Scal.

I say play the guy and see how he does with NBA players with him, passes from Rondo ect. We are not SA......irrelevant....All can learn from a coach who makes the right choices regardless. Some play in the D league is good, but not much. It is a "look at me" showcase. SA shows you can develop players using better players and playing time versus real competition. ALL teams should learn from this. It matters little where or how we got the guy. Babb and Johnson were good, be we have too many guards. Not enough good big men. A player who can dunk and plays big inside......sounds good to me. you can have your opinion, I will speak mine. Especially from referencing a system that works.

I look at how the Spurs have developed guys like Aron Baynes and Cory Joseph into useful bench contributors and suggest that sending Powell to the D-League for some games is exactly what the Spurs would do.

I agree the Spurs would also be sending this kid to the D-League. Lets not forget that the Cs are taking him from a 4/5 role in college and asking him to play more or a 4/3. Hopefully there will be some d-league opportunity to defend bigger 3s. I don't see anyone of note in their first game but their second game the opponent has CJ Fair, this could be a nice match-up for Powel on D. 

[Celtics4ever]

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Of course it is a template.....Do you realize how much a veteran like Tim Duncan learns over the years...the HARD way.....think about him teaching that to a rookie the easy way

We don't have a Tim Duncan.  Let me tell you something about sports, which is pretty obvious that you have never played a high level.   Guys are fighting for a job,   you really only help someone when your secure in your job like a Duncan or KG.   A lot of guys stop helping if you get good or threaten their job.

Look how popovich sits his stars.....Nov-Jan is the time of year to develop your talent.......make your 2nd string 1st string possible....how..PLAY them..at least then you'll know what you have......or use them for trade bait..

Pop has that luxury.   We sit our stars ( and one could debate how many we have)  and we in the lotto.   I think we should develop our kids and assets but if you do that with this team then we do not make the playoffs.    The guys are turned on now and playing about as good as they can on offense,  defense there is room for improvement.   They are going to have trouble sustaining that effort all  82 games.

.Have you ever played league or pick up..? If so, how did you play versus scrubs....? Same as all of us...not your best.....why...no challenge..and it is enough to protect yourself from the crazy things scrubs do...

I played ball in Europe in early 90s, and yes it was my job.    I did well no matter who I played with if they could get the ball past half court.  I scored more points vs. scrubs as they could not guard me.   Did you see Scal play the two guys?    He looked pretty good against "scrubs"  I would wager the NBA DL would wipe the floor with most here.   There are some good players there.   Players who would devastate your leagues.   Now there are some great players in some pick up leagues but I doubt your playing there if you do not play well vs. scrubs.

We are missing three stars to use your SA model.   Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo are not on par with Parker or  Ginobili.   We have no Tim Duncan.   Even if we had veteran's to teach and we do not we do not have role players as talented as they do.   I recall when KG and PP was here people saying they taught them to be a pro but I do not recall people saying they taught them moves or how to play.    I think they are talking about the pro lifestyle.  Duncan actually has individual scouting reports in his head on each big.   He is a very cerebral player.   I read that he has mentored Roy Hibbert some.

We are 2-3 stars away from being able to implement that model,   though I agree it is time to develop that talent.

[MBunge]

We are missing three stars to use your SA model.   Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo are not on par with Parker or  Ginobili.   

Put Parker and/or Ginobili on a bad team and they'd still be a bad team.  If we traded Green and Rondo for those two, how much better would Boston be and how much worse would the Spurs be?  I'd wager there would be little change to either.

The keys to San Antonio's success are David Robinson, Tim Duncan and Pop creating a system and a culture that maximizes player performance.  In contrast, look at Miami's culture and system that reduced Chris Bosh to almost an afterthought.

Mike

[D.o.s.]

We are missing three stars to use your SA model.   Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo are not on par with Parker or  Ginobili.   

Put Parker and/or Ginobili on a bad team and they'd still be a bad team.  If we traded Green and Rondo for those two, how much better would Boston be and how much worse would the Spurs be?  I'd wager there would be little change to either.

The keys to San Antonio's success are David Robinson, Tim Duncan and Pop creating a system and a culture that maximizes player performance.  In contrast, look at Miami's culture and system that reduced Chris Bosh to almost an afterthought.

Mike

I have to agree about San Antonio, although I don't know if I agree with the characterization of Miami.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

We are missing three stars to use your SA model.   Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo are not on par with Parker or  Ginobili.   

Put Parker and/or Ginobili on a bad team and they'd still be a bad team.  If we traded Green and Rondo for those two, how much better would Boston be and how much worse would the Spurs be?  I'd wager there would be little change to either.

The keys to San Antonio's success are David Robinson, Tim Duncan and Pop creating a system and a culture that maximizes player performance.  In contrast, look at Miami's culture and system that reduced Chris Bosh to almost an afterthought.

Mike

Rondo is on par with parker...

[Meadowlark_Scal]

 

[Meadowlark_Scal]

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Of course it is a template.....Do you realize how much a veteran like Tim Duncan learns over the years...the HARD way.....think about him teaching that to a rookie the easy way

We don't have a Tim Duncan.  Let me tell you something about sports, which is pretty obvious that you have never played a high level.   Guys are fighting for a job,   you really only help someone when your secure in your job like a Duncan or KG.   A lot of guys stop helping if you get good or threaten their job.

Look how popovich sits his stars.....Nov-Jan is the time of year to develop your talent.......make your 2nd string 1st string possible....how..PLAY them..at least then you'll know what you have......or use them for trade bait..

Pop has that luxury.   We sit our stars ( and one could debate how many we have)  and we in the lotto.   I think we should develop our kids and assets but if you do that with this team then we do not make the playoffs.    The guys are turned on now and playing about as good as they can on offense,  defense there is room for improvement.   They are going to have trouble sustaining that effort all  82 games.

.Have you ever played league or pick up..? If so, how did you play versus scrubs....? Same as all of us...not your best.....why...no challenge..and it is enough to protect yourself from the crazy things scrubs do...

I played ball in Europe in early 90s, and yes it was my job.    I did well no matter who I played with if they could get the ball past half court.  I scored more points vs. scrubs as they could not guard me.   Did you see Scal play the two guys?    He looked pretty good against "scrubs"  I would wager the NBA DL would wipe the floor with most here.   There are some good players there.   Players who would devastate your leagues.   Now there are some great players in some pick up leagues but I doubt your playing there if you do not play well vs. scrubs.

We are missing three stars to use your SA model.   Jeff Green and Rajon Rondo are not on par with Parker or  Ginobili.   We have no Tim Duncan.   Even if we had veteran's to teach and we do not we do not have role players as talented as they do.   I recall when KG and PP was here people saying they taught them to be a pro but I do not recall people saying they taught them moves or how to play.    I think they are talking about the pro lifestyle.  Duncan actually has individual scouting reports in his head on each big.   He is a very cerebral player.   I read that he has mentored Roy Hibbert some.

We are 2-3 stars away from being able to implement that model,   though I agree it is time to develop that talent.

 though I agree it is time to develop that talent.

LOL..WOW, the LONG WAY to go just to say THAT...When THAT was my ONLY point....Thanks..!