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Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2014, 04:00:29 PM »

Offline PAOBoston

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Because losing more was a guarantee to get us a higher pick. Just like Cleveland. Oh wait...

We had the 5th worst record in the NBA. Getting the 4th pick wouldn't have been thaaaat much more valuable than the 6th. Smart was a good pick.

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2014, 04:02:20 PM »

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I guess I could have been a little more precise in saying the Spurs were the only team to develop  young players and win a championship.

I figured it was a given that obviously every team develops talent in some way/form. obviously. but my point I was trying to get across is it seems the op and the guy I originally responded to are favoring developing young players over trying to win now if we can.

and as great as the spurs are or have been. with no luck in acquiring duncan they probably would not have been so patient at developing players.

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2014, 04:11:54 PM »

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If the bottom 3 teams had finished 1 2 3 in the draft order, I would have felt greater frustration, because, toward the end of the season, we were at one point tied with ORL for the 3rd worst record. This was a draft with 3 really good players, and a big drop off after.  There was no way we were going to be as bad as Milwaukee or Philly.  That was ridiculous.  But once Cleveland grabbed the top pick, I stopped feeling so bad; there is a large element of luck in the lottery.

Next year, Philly is probably projected to be terrible again, and will probably end up with another top 3 pick.  If they are as obvious about it as they were this past season, here's to hoping the new commissioner takes a serious look at them and considers issuing a penalty (like taking away their first round pick). That might stop the tanking.

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2014, 04:55:40 PM »

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Can we just get a general purpose draft QQ therapy thread? Having 2395395864958 topics on this clog the board is getting counterproductive.
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Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2014, 05:03:54 PM »

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I blame DA for the last championship! ::)

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2014, 05:39:04 PM »

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If the bottom 3 teams had finished 1 2 3 in the draft order, I would have felt greater frustration, because, toward the end of the season, we were at one point tied with ORL for the 3rd worst record. This was a draft with 3 really good players, and a big drop off after.  There was no way we were going to be as bad as Milwaukee or Philly.  That was ridiculous.  But once Cleveland grabbed the top pick, I stopped feeling so bad; there is a large element of luck in the lottery.

Next year, Philly is probably projected to be terrible again, and will probably end up with another top 3 pick.  If they are as obvious about it as they were this past season, here's to hoping the new commissioner takes a serious look at them and considers issuing a penalty (like taking away their first round pick). That might stop the tanking.

You might change your mind again once you see Exum playing in the league.

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2014, 07:33:15 PM »

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i can get randle or 4 or 5 pick or 8 9 10

bass humphries faverani wallace green anthony all should have been traded for any of those picks
even though we don't win anything this year, i'm still happy because as far as i can see it, smart with rondo? hhmm

another question, would you pay wallace humphries bass those big contracts?
and are those players will stay as celtics in 3 or 4 more years?
smart could be our future pg, but if rondo stays maybe eric bledsoe role here in celtics or reggie jackson role back-up PG, or norris cole, until rondo is gone, now he can start as our PG

bucks magic 76ers cleveland are way more better in terms of tanking, unless we got a KD type in our team via draft

I'm not sure what you are talking about but it sounds like you believe big contracts are easy to get rid of.  Wallace is going to take a minor miracle to rid ourselves of, Humphries is already off the books, and Bass has a reasonable contract for his age and talent level.

Ainge is clearly trying to keep the flexibility of dismantling this team for youth or a retooling.  I think Love is still in play but I could obviously be wrong.  Also remember Free Agency doesn't open up until July 1st and the Garnett trade didn't happen until the 30th.

I'm more in the rebuild with young talent camp. 
- The Pacers drafted Hibbert, George, Granger, Stephonson
- The Thunder drafted Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden, Durant
- The Spurs drafted Duncan, Ginobli, Parker

I think Smart has a chance to be a really good player, but he clearly needs time to develop his game and ability.  We should also remember that he is almost 10 years younger than Rondo.

i'm just saying that if we offer green bass walalce bayless etc; for 4 going up for picks teams might consider it
example we offered the jazz SF for a pick or lakers pick with some interesting offer, that's good for rebuilding, via drafts remember when they traded ray allen? look at okc,
if drafted players are just a playoffs 1st round exit, with a lot of caps space you can now add a star player to lead and guide this rookies in the future

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »

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I recommend we fire both Ainge and Stevens and hire you.
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Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2014, 07:49:52 PM »

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Personally, I think Brad Stevens should be applauded for winning 25 games and having countless other close games with that horrific roster.

That was some black magic crap.

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2014, 07:56:27 PM »

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Personally, I think Brad Stevens should be applauded for winning 25 games and having countless other close games with that horrific roster.

That was some black magic crap.

One thing I noticed last season was how much we were in every game. Not too many blowouts. So it was either teams didn't take us seriously or Stevens is just that good.

I have a feeling a bit of both. But it's still optimistic when he has players he hand picks to play a style he wants. I see a lot of Pop in him and how he wants the game to be played. that's encouraging. 

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2014, 07:58:38 PM »

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So far I have seen Smart been described as better than Dwyane Wade, the next Russell Westbrook and now he is compared to Deron Williams. Man, this guy is going to be unreal.   ;D

Re: Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2014, 08:04:29 PM »

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So far I have seen Smart been described as better than Dwyane Wade, the next Russell Westbrook and now he is compared to Deron Williams. Man, this guy is going to be unreal.   ;D

Your right...I don't think we should get crazy about the comparisons.  We should however all hope that he turns out to be a great player for the C's.  After all last year everyone was going crazy wishing we could move up in a bad draft so we could Olidipo...some even wanted MCW because he was a Mass kid.  The truth is that Smart would have been taken over all of them. 

We need one of our picks over the next few drafts to turn into a stud..the same way it happened for Indiana with George, the Spurs and Leonard, or the Thunder with Westbrook, Ibaka, and Harden.