Danny Ainge and Brad Stevens are to blame

[Clench123]

This is what happens when you don't tank like you're suppose to.  For some reason I had a feeling this might happen and we may be in this mess for a long time.  It's either you tank ALL THE WAY or don't tank at all.  On draft day I was glad about our picks but our mediocre assets may have had more appeal if we had picked in the first 4.  We did the best we could with number 6 and 17 but everyone knows it's a huge drop off after the first four.  We won those two pointless games at the end of the season which really hurt our standing in the lottery.  Also Danny should've traded Green (I don't get Danny's infatuation with this guy) or Humph.  Stevens should also learn how to play the game in the NBA; how to lose (and loose all the way) in order to win again.  I feel this is going to bite us in the ass if it hasn't already.  This sucks.  What a huge difference two games makes.

Anti-tankers can rejoice now.  Look where we're at.  We're not going to contend for a very long time

[elcotte]

I recommend we fire both Ainge and Stevens and hire you.

[Celtics18]

What mess?  If we had gotten Dante Exum or Aaron Gordon instead of Marcus Smart, would you have been shouting "Banner 18, here we come!!"?

[Clench123]

Not really but we then have assets that is appealing enough to make big trades.

[Clench123]

I recommend we fire both Ainge and Stevens and hire you.

It's logic.  I would've done a lot better.

[Celtics4ever]

I think someone needs to go back to bed?

[saltlover]

Personally, I wanted Smart more than Gordon and about as much as Exum.  I really wanted Wiggins more than anything, so you're right, Danny and Brad should have won more games to have gotten Cleveland's lottery numbers.

Frankly, this thread should be locked for attempting to start a flame war.

[Celtics18]

Not really but we then have assets that is appealing enough to make big trades.

Sure, getting Marcus Smart means we are completely without assets, but getting Exum or Gordon would have meant we could have had our pick of which superstar we wanted to trade them for?

[GreenWarrior]

solid logic!

the cavs had the #1 pick and couldn't trade for Love either. plus the C's still aren't giving up on trading for Love. they did however draft Wiggins. if he is able to improve that team by 20 - 30 wins this season then we can concede we should have tanked. but Danny didn't see him as a guy that could do that and I don't even think the Cavs envision him being able to do that.

Philly outright tanked and didn't get the #1 pick . in fact they weren't even the worst team. Mil. was and they didn't get the pick they deserved either.

there's a time to "tank" and there isn't. this wasn't the yr. to do so. no franchise altering player(s). it was a deep draft as far as good players go but none are going to turn a team around quickly or even give a franchise the thought of being able to do so.

we got a good player in Smart, so did the Cavs, so did a lot of other teams.

what's the point?

 

[hwangjini_1]

solid logic!

the cavs had the #1 pick and couldn't trade for Love either. plus the C's still aren't giving up on trading for Love. they did however draft Wiggins. if he is able to improve that team by 20 - 30 wins this season then we can concede we should have tanked. but Danny didn't see him as a guy that could do that and I don't even think the Cavs envision him being able to do that.

Philly outright tanked and didn't get the #1 pick . in fact they weren't even the worst team. Mil. was and they didn't get the pick they deserved either.

there's a time to "tank" and there isn't. this wasn't the yr. to do so. no franchise altering player(s). it was a deep draft as far as good players go but none are going to turn a team around quickly or even give a franchise the thought of being able to do so.

we got a good player in Smart, so did the Cavs, so did a lot of other teams.

what's the point?

well stated and i agree. while exam would have been nice, smart is by no means a "booby prize" for the celtics.

not sure how this thread will generate informed and interesting discussions, so it is time for me to move on to other topics and threads here at cb. see you all there!

[TwinTower14]

Count me out in Exum! Don't want a guy that won't workout against other prospects. I love that Smart went head to head with everyone. Not to mention Smart man handling him when team USA played them. Smart, Parker and Embiid three best players in this draft.

[YoungOne87]

so player developement isnt in your plan at all?

[BudweiserCeltic]

I'm quite content with our current situation. So I'll me sure to send Danny and Stevens their share of the blame.

[MISSERY]

i can get randle or 4 or 5 pick or 8 9 10

bass humphries faverani wallace green anthony all should have been traded for any of those picks
even though we don't win anything this year, i'm still happy because as far as i can see it, smart with rondo? hhmm

another question, would you pay wallace humphries bass those big contracts?
and are those players will stay as celtics in 3 or 4 more years?
smart could be our future pg, but if rondo stays maybe eric bledsoe role here in celtics or reggie jackson role back-up PG, or norris cole, until rondo is gone, now he can start as our PG

bucks magic 76ers cleveland are way more better in terms of tanking, unless we got a KD type in our team via draft
 

[Future Celtics Owner]

Clench....I hated winning those 2 games, and every game ..especially against miami, but Marcus Smart is better than you think. If he turns out to be Deron Williams but more athletic, will you be happy because thats what i think will happen. I was very surprised that Smart was not selected by the Magic, who had the 4th pic, and I bet they will regret it.