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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2014, 12:18:51 PM »

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I think if we try and target Monroe, we'd have like 6 PFs and no legit Center on the team. I could see, if we had to trade Sully, on a detroit team as a 3rd big. Would be great playing inside out as a PF with Drummond and in VERY short spells playing C with Jsmooth as the PF.

I'm not sure why we would give up Sully for a restricted free agent whose team probably would deal him. I personally wouldn't move Sully or Olynyk in any deal for Monroe.
This year he accounted for 40% of the Pistons minutes at center, the previous year he played 56% of the available center minutes, the year before that he played 82% of his teams available center minutes. (http://www.82games.com/1314/13DET14.HTM)

They played him at PF because of the awfully imbalanced lineup they had. With us he would be playing center the majority of the time, just like he has for most of his career.

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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2014, 12:31:14 PM »

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They played him at PF because of the awfully imbalanced lineup they had. With us he would be playing center the majority of the time, just like he has for most of his career.

I'm not sure that I like Monroe as a starting C for the Celtics. He'd be a defensive liability, therefore I'd like to get a defensive Center is Asik. I could see playing Monroe as a C in limited minutes for small ball situations a la Tim Duncan.

Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2014, 12:43:20 PM »

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They played him at PF because of the awfully imbalanced lineup they had. With us he would be playing center the majority of the time, just like he has for most of his career.

I'm not sure that I like Monroe as a starting C for the Celtics. He'd be a defensive liability, therefore I'd like to get a defensive Center is Asik. I could see playing Monroe as a C in limited minutes for small ball situations a la Tim Duncan.
His problem defensively is that he's not very quick. Playing him at power forward makes that problem worse not better. He gave up 105.5 points per 100 possessions as a power forward and 102.7 as a center. As a center he was +.8 per 48 minutes while at power forward he was -4.9 per 48 minutes. His net per is -2.9 per 48 minutes as a PF and +3.4 as a center.

I can see wanting Asik instead of Monroe for his defensive ability, but if we are going to acquire Monroe, it should be as a center because that is where he produces best.
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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2014, 12:47:57 PM »

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They played him at PF because of the awfully imbalanced lineup they had. With us he would be playing center the majority of the time, just like he has for most of his career.

I'm not sure that I like Monroe as a starting C for the Celtics. He'd be a defensive liability, therefore I'd like to get a defensive Center is Asik. I could see playing Monroe as a C in limited minutes for small ball situations a la Tim Duncan.
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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2014, 12:49:33 PM »

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Don't like Monroe, particularly on his future salary.

Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2014, 01:05:38 PM »

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Don't like Monroe, particularly on his future salary.

Not really concerned with salary. I'm sure he'll command about $11 million - $13, but a young guy with room for improvement and averages a near double-double, I don't mind paying him.

My concern is, who do we tandem him with that will hide his defensive deficiencies. If he's our rim protector, with that money, we are doomed.
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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2014, 01:07:52 PM »

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Don't like Monroe, particularly on his future salary.

You don't like a 20/10 guy?

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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2014, 01:42:10 PM »

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Greg Monroe is not a rim protector.  I believe one of your bigs should be a rim protector.  Greg Monroe is not a floor-spreader, taking well over 80% of his shots from inside 10 feet.  I believe one of your bigs should be able to spread the floor.

it doesn't look like the Celtics will have a rim-protecting big who spreads the floor and I don't think they will acquire one, so I think Monroe is a bad fit for constructing the team.

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Re: Should we target Detroit?s Monroe if we can?t get Love?
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2014, 04:08:47 AM »

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I'd be pretty happy with Moroe as our future center.  I think his defensive problems are significantly overrated.   I don't think he's going to give you a positive impact on the defensive end,  but I don't think he's really going to be a liability either.   

Either way I think we are far better off Defensively with Monroe at center than we are with Sully or Bass at center.  Also Asik may be a better defender,  but he is a major liability on the offensive end.  I believe Monroe's offense is his enough to make up for his defense,  while I don't think Asik's defense is his enough to offset his horrendous offense.