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Re: idea to get rid of tanking
« Reply #75 on: March 19, 2014, 02:11:17 PM »

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That's a pretty neat idea; 1 ball per 5-10 losses or so.

I'd probably then include the playoff teams (is getting bounced as an 8 seed so much better than missing the playoffs?), but also have ineligibility for a few drafts for actually winning titles or making the final 4 as outlined above.

Re: idea to get rid of tanking
« Reply #76 on: March 19, 2014, 02:26:22 PM »

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the easiest, fairest way to get rid of tanking imo is to include all 30 teams in the lottery. You can still have a similar scale of odds per ranking, so the best team has the worst odds, the last place team has the best odds, etc., but then the difference from the 8th seed playoff teams to the teams that just miss the playoffs would be very marginal, so there really would be no incentive to tank to miss the playoffs.

Re: idea to get rid of tanking
« Reply #77 on: March 19, 2014, 02:49:56 PM »

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How to counteract the 2014 76'ers/Bux/Fakers vomit.

This is not a new phenomenon, but, the race to the bottom this year has been the Indy 500 of "whose worst." Complete with flaming wrecks slamming into other flaming wrecks with the rescue vehicles slamming into the flaming wrecks. Why play the games? Just have the 76'ers, Bux, Fakers et al, just forfeit the last 20 games or so and wait for their draft pick.

The reasons to put an end to high octane tanking are the product. The 76'ers et al are literally playing second division basketball and it hurts the league. There are three or four games a night that simply aren't worth watching. The NCAA on the other hand can have you scratching your head on Wofford. They could win that game.

The 76'ers won't and while they are NOT winning that game? They're going to get pasted. Meaningless, competition free surrender. Which do you want watch?? Dayton v Ohio State or the Spurs and the Lakers? Go ahead, I'll wait. Dayton is going to play their a$$es off, they could take the Buckeyes. The Lakers are going to watch San Antonio beat them from the locker room.

MLB is famous for having teams that are 26 games out in late August, But, basketball is about effort, fight and desire.

As children, we are rewarded by our parents for specific behaviors. The NBA rewards a team for losing all their games. If the NBA punished a team for losing all their games? You never would have gotten that highlight reel spinning, never going to win a big game Oklahoma City Thunder. Red Auerbach would have missed about 11 hall of famers and maybe Lebron would have ended up in Philly.

Below, NBA anti tanking proclamations using the "BST principle" (Best Sh&%$y Team gets rewarded):

"All sh&%$y teams must try really hard or they drop in the draft order."
This, of course, would give the Celtics the first pick as they "fight to the end." The Lakers meanwhile would get demoted the the D league for one season and have to change their name to something really stupid like the "Mad Ants."

"All sh&%$y teams that get beat really bad (15 points or more) a lot drop in the draft order." Au revoir 76'ers! You get nuthin'.

"All lottery teams that act like the Celtics, move up in the draft order because they play hard every night" and, I'm a Celtics fan.

All sh&%$y teams need to get worse draft picks because I hate LA, the post Lew Alcindor Bucks have been useless and I haven't liked the 76'ers since Dr. J retired. 


Re: idea to get rid of tanking
« Reply #78 on: March 19, 2014, 02:54:34 PM »

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That's a pretty neat idea; 1 ball per 5-10 losses or so.

I'd probably then include the playoff teams (is getting bounced as an 8 seed so much better than missing the playoffs?), but also have ineligibility for a few drafts for actually winning titles or making the final 4 as outlined above.

Could amend it to include all teams in a lottery based on 1 ball per ten loses.

I would make it so that playoff teams are not top 5 eligible

Conference champs are not top 15 eligible

NBA Champ gets last pick
Mavs
Wiz
Hornet

Re: idea to get rid of tanking
« Reply #79 on: March 19, 2014, 04:02:51 PM »

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How to counteract the 2014 76'ers/Bux/Fakers vomit.

This is not a new phenomenon, but, the race to the bottom this year has been the Indy 500 of "whose worst." Complete with flaming wrecks slamming into other flaming wrecks with the rescue vehicles slamming into the flaming wrecks. Why play the games? Just have the 76'ers, Bux, Fakers et al, just forfeit the last 20 games or so and wait for their draft pick.

The reasons to put an end to high octane tanking are the product. The 76'ers et al are literally playing second division basketball and it hurts the league. There are three or four games a night that simply aren't worth watching. The NCAA on the other hand can have you scratching your head on Wofford. They could win that game.

The 76'ers won't and while they are NOT winning that game? They're going to get pasted. Meaningless, competition free surrender. Which do you want watch?? Dayton v Ohio State or the Spurs and the Lakers? Go ahead, I'll wait. Dayton is going to play their a$$es off, they could take the Buckeyes. The Lakers are going to watch San Antonio beat them from the locker room.

MLB is famous for having teams that are 26 games out in late August, But, basketball is about effort, fight and desire.

As children, we are rewarded by our parents for specific behaviors. The NBA rewards a team for losing all their games. If the NBA punished a team for losing all their games? You never would have gotten that highlight reel spinning, never going to win a big game Oklahoma City Thunder. Red Auerbach would have missed about 11 hall of famers and maybe Lebron would have ended up in Philly.

Below, NBA anti tanking proclamations using the "BST principle" (Best Sh&%$y Team gets rewarded):

"All sh&%$y teams must try really hard or they drop in the draft order."
This, of course, would give the Celtics the first pick as they "fight to the end." The Lakers meanwhile would get demoted the the D league for one season and have to change their name to something really stupid like the "Mad Ants."

"All sh&%$y teams that get beat really bad (15 points or more) a lot drop in the draft order." Au revoir 76'ers! You get nuthin'.

"All lottery teams that act like the Celtics, move up in the draft order because they play hard every night" and, I'm a Celtics fan.

All sh&%$y teams need to get worse draft picks because I hate LA, the post Lew Alcindor Bucks have been useless and I haven't liked the 76'ers since Dr. J retired. 


I agree with the tone of this impassioned diatribe against bad basketball.

I disagree with everything else.
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