Olynyk Torches Magic, Fires Warning Shots

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

which is why both need to play the 4 and not the 5. we still will need a real center during the rebuild either through the draft or free agency or a trade.

"real centers" are overrated.  The Heat just won back to back championships without a 'real center' unless you count Bosh, and I don't.  Olynyk is a big offensive upgrade on Bass.  A true 7 footer who can play stretch 4/5.

What the Celtics need to continue to do is build up talent and assets in the organization so that they are in position to make a move for quality players.  But most of all they need a Superstar to build around first.  Rondo, Sully, Green look like above average NBA players.  But they need a true superstar to contend for an NBA title.

The heat my friend play the best SMALLBALL in the association. That plays a large part why they do not need bigs like others.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

which is why both need to play the 4 and not the 5. we still will need a real center during the rebuild either through the draft or free agency or a trade.

"real centers" are overrated.  The Heat just won back to back championships without a 'real center' unless you count Bosh, and I don't.  Olynyk is a big offensive upgrade on Bass.  A true 7 footer who can play stretch 4/5.

What the Celtics need to continue to do is build up talent and assets in the organization so that they are in position to make a move for quality players.  But most of all they need a Superstar to build around first.  Rondo, Sully, Green look like above average NBA players.  But they need a true superstar to contend for an NBA title.

The Heat also just happen to have the greatest player since MJ.

The rest of the final four teams all had legitimate centers. Hibbert and Gasol are two of the best centers in the league right now (with Gasol arguably being THE best), and Splitter is no slouch either. Then you look at other playoff teams anchored by guys like Chandler and Noah...hell, even Milwaukee had a legitimate post presence in Sanders.

yep. good points.

[crimson_stallion]

good article about olynyk's offensive skills. good draft by ainge for sure.

but not a word about olynyk's limitations on defense. i think olynyk needs to gain some muscle and lose maybe 10 pounds. if so and with training, it would increase his over all speed, movement, and jump. with a bit more athleticism olynyk might become at least an average defender.

i think he is 2-3 years away from really hitting his stride, both offensively and defensively.

right now, if stevens teams olynyk up with sully in the front court, teams with good front lines will punish them. defensively those two can not keep up with opposing teams.

Umm..Sullinger was exceptoinal on defense last season.  Once he started to get a feel for things (just before he got hurt) he had one of th ebest defensive ratings in the league.  His low post defense was outstanding and he rarely got scored on.   

[clover]

good article about olynyk's offensive skills. good draft by ainge for sure.

but not a word about olynyk's limitations on defense. i think olynyk needs to gain some muscle and lose maybe 10 pounds. if so and with training, it would increase his over all speed, movement, and jump. with a bit more athleticism olynyk might become at least an average defender.

i think he is 2-3 years away from really hitting his stride, both offensively and defensively.

right now, if stevens teams olynyk up with sully in the front court, teams with good front lines will punish them. defensively those two can not keep up with opposing teams.

Umm..Sullinger was exceptoinal on defense last season.  Once he started to get a feel for things (just before he got hurt) he had one of th ebest defensive ratings in the league.  His low post defense was outstanding and he rarely got scored on.

But Sully also wasn't going against centers in the league.

[Tr1boy]

good article about olynyk's offensive skills. good draft by ainge for sure.

but not a word about olynyk's limitations on defense. i think olynyk needs to gain some muscle and lose maybe 10 pounds. if so and with training, it would increase his over all speed, movement, and jump. with a bit more athleticism olynyk might become at least an average defender.

i think he is 2-3 years away from really hitting his stride, both offensively and defensively.

right now, if stevens teams olynyk up with sully in the front court, teams with good front lines will punish them. defensively those two can not keep up with opposing teams.

Umm..Sullinger was exceptoinal on defense last season.  Once he started to get a feel for things (just before he got hurt) he had one of th ebest defensive ratings in the league.  His low post defense was outstanding and he rarely got scored on.

But Sully also wasn't going against centers in the league.

yes he was. He went against Chandler, Gortat and others. He and KG at times switched, but against guys who have 4 inch height adv, at times he man handled them. You just can't get inside position on Sully.

Offensively he will have a challenge to score against length. This is where his jump shot needs consistency.

But Defensively not many centers in the nba will be able to score easily in the inside. If they can shoot, than thats another story. But how many nba centers can shoot these days?

[colincb]

IF KO can shoot 3s at an above-average rate, then I don't care who he's facing, he will be an offensive force to be reckoned with.  Big IF of course, but an impressive debut. 

[BudweiserCeltic]

Scoring plays

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps3RqEE1E0w

[Tr1boy]

IF KO can shoot 3s at an above-average rate, then I don't care who he's facing, he will be an offensive force to be reckoned with.  Big IF of course, but an impressive debut.

yup. And he also went 5-5 at the ft throw line and had a 18 ft jump shot.

I think in the end when he missed two, he was a little tired.  He literally played the whole 4th.

[Eddie20]

Like this tweet...

Steve Bulpett ‏@SteveBHoop
You wouldn't believe the number of text messages praising Olynyk I'm getting from coaches watching this game on TV.

[coco]

What impressed me most about KO is that he is a stretch 4 that can actually post up.  Those stretch 4 are incredibly rare.

[Eddie20]

What impressed me most about KO is that he is a stretch 4 that can actually post up.  Those stretch 4 are incredibly rare.

I wouldn't discount his passing ability from the high post either.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

which is why both need to play the 4 and not the 5. we still will need a real center during the rebuild either through the draft or free agency or a trade.

"real centers" are overrated.  The Heat just won back to back championships without a 'real center' unless you count Bosh, and I don't.  Olynyk is a big offensive upgrade on Bass.  A true 7 footer who can play stretch 4/5.

What the Celtics need to continue to do is build up talent and assets in the organization so that they are in position to make a move for quality players.  But most of all they need a Superstar to build around first.  Rondo, Sully, Green look like above average NBA players.  But they need a true superstar to contend for an NBA title.

Any comparisons using the Heat are skewed, because they have LeBron. Period. His presence enables them to do things that no other team can do. The Heat don't need a real center, but other teams do.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Scoring plays

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps3RqEE1E0w

Thanks for sharing. TP.

[lon3lytoaster]

Man, what Oly can do offensively is pretty special. Postup, face-up, three point range, passing. Not sure how he is on on PnR, though. Didn't see that.

All in a legit 7 footer's body. Short arms be [dang]ed.