CBA question regarding trade exceptions

[Moranis]

If Boston traded Pierce to the Cavs (for the draft picks and no salaries) and Lee to Memphis (for their trade exception) in the same trade - something like Pierce to Cleveland, Lee and 33 to Memphis, and 31 to Boston - would Boston then have a trade exception of the 20+ million or two separate exceptions of the 5 or so and 15+?

[Lucky17]

If Boston traded Pierce to the Cavs (for the draft picks and no salaries) and Lee to Memphis (for their trade exception) in the same trade - something like Pierce to Cleveland, Lee and 33 to Memphis, and 31 to Boston - would Boston then have a trade exception of the 20+ million or two separate exceptions of the 5 or so and 15+?

Separate.

[rondohondo]

what if kg retires and we trade PP for a trade exception

can we combine cap space and a trade exception ? if so we could land a max player

[Lucky17]

what if kg retires and we trade PP for a trade exception

can we combine cap space and a trade exception ? if so we could land a max player

No. You cannot combine a TE with cap space or other outgoing salaries.

[Moranis]

If Boston traded Pierce to the Cavs (for the draft picks and no salaries) and Lee to Memphis (for their trade exception) in the same trade - something like Pierce to Cleveland, Lee and 33 to Memphis, and 31 to Boston - would Boston then have a trade exception of the 20+ million or two separate exceptions of the 5 or so and 15+?

Separate.

What is the cite to that?  It just seems odd that if in one trade you trade 20+ million in salaries and take nothing back that you wouldn't just have 1 trade exception. 

[European NBA fan]

If Boston traded Pierce to the Cavs (for the draft picks and no salaries) and Lee to Memphis (for their trade exception) in the same trade - something like Pierce to Cleveland, Lee and 33 to Memphis, and 31 to Boston - would Boston then have a trade exception of the 20+ million or two separate exceptions of the 5 or so and 15+?

Separate.

What is the cite to that?  It just seems odd that if in one trade you trade 20+ million in salaries and take nothing back that you wouldn't just have 1 trade exception.

According to Larry Coons CBAFAQ:

If a team has two trade exceptions from previous non-simultaneous trades, they can't combine them into one larger trade exception. Suppose a team trades a $5 million player for a $4 million player (generating a $1 million trade exception) and separately trades a $3 million player for a $1 million player (generating a $2 million trade exception). They cannot combine the two into a single $3 million trade exception. A rule of thumb is that a trade exception can only be used to acquire a player making up to the amount of the exception plus $100,000.

[Moranis]

If Boston traded Pierce to the Cavs (for the draft picks and no salaries) and Lee to Memphis (for their trade exception) in the same trade - something like Pierce to Cleveland, Lee and 33 to Memphis, and 31 to Boston - would Boston then have a trade exception of the 20+ million or two separate exceptions of the 5 or so and 15+?

Separate.

What is the cite to that?  It just seems odd that if in one trade you trade 20+ million in salaries and take nothing back that you wouldn't just have 1 trade exception.

According to Larry Coons CBAFAQ:

If a team has two trade exceptions from previous non-simultaneous trades, they can't combine them into one larger trade exception. Suppose a team trades a $5 million player for a $4 million player (generating a $1 million trade exception) and separately trades a $3 million player for a $1 million player (generating a $2 million trade exception). They cannot combine the two into a single $3 million trade exception. A rule of thumb is that a trade exception can only be used to acquire a player making up to the amount of the exception plus $100,000.

This isn't a separate non-simultaneous trade. It is one trade.  In fact, reading that it would seem to me that you could combine them if they are in the same trade.

[erisred]

If it is *all* one trade, then yes the TPE is combined. What you can't do is combine TPE's from multiple separate trades into one big one.

[Moranis]

If it is *all* one trade, then yes the TPE is combined. What you can't do is combine TPE's from multiple separate trades into one big one.

Same trade, that is why I sent 33 to Memphis to ensure that it was in fact one trade instead of two separate trades.  That sort of exception would allow Boston to acquire any free agent this year with a max deal via a sign and trade.

[LooseCannon]

If it is *all* one trade, then yes the TPE is combined. What you can't do is combine TPE's from multiple separate trades into one big one.

Same trade, that is why I sent 33 to Memphis to ensure that it was in fact one trade instead of two separate trades.  That sort of exception would allow Boston to acquire any free agent this year with a max deal via a sign and trade.

A multi-team trade is never just one trade.  It is a set of multiple simultaneous trades.