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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2012, 12:23:00 AM »

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Celtics have been notorious for drafting players that arent NBA ready.

All the guys we draft either need a year or two before they can be begin to look like a real NBA player, or they are busts.
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2012, 12:33:35 AM »

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Defensive ability, defensive effort, knowledge of the sets, ability to run the floor, ability to play two positions.

Dooling may know the sets but he cannot run the floor or play the shooting guard position because he cannot get the ball in the hole and he does not attack the basket. He now passes up wide open shots because he knows he's terrible from any sort of range so we now have a guy at SHOOTING GUARD, who doesn't shoot. He's also too small to guard a lot of SGs in the NBA.
 
Time to ditch this passive moron and go for someone who isnt scared of trying to get the ball in the hoop. You're up E'twaun.
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2012, 03:13:11 AM »

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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2012, 11:22:53 AM »

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Time to ditch this passive moron and go for someone who isnt scared of trying to get the ball in the hoop. You're up E'twaun.

To me, the problem isn't Dooling over E'Twaun.  It's playing Dooling instead of sliding Bradley over to the 2.  I can understand Doc not wanting to do it when we're playing Kobe and the Lakers or Wade and the Heat, but there are plenty of undersized combo guards playing back up 2 that Bradley should theoretically be able to match up with.  I mean, if Bradley can't D up guys like Mo Williams or JJ Redick, he's not going to have much of a career in the league.

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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2012, 08:41:02 PM »

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If JaJuan is "undersized" to the PF then why not throw him in at the SF spot. You play Pietrus at the SG spot more and take away minutes from Dooling and give more to Bradley and Moore. I honestly think that this team played better when they played Moore, Bradley and Johnson more. I think Rondo plays better because he has young players running with him which opens up opportunities.

If they want JJ to play the PF then I wouldn't bulk him up too much, I'd bulk him up to KG's build because you don't want him to put on too much and have knee issues down the line like some others did.

I think you play him at the SF spot, like I said... then you have a bench of Bradley, Pietrus, JJ, Buyout/free agent player, Steamer. JJ can run up and down the court pretty well so why not?
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2012, 09:10:32 PM »

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If JaJuan is "undersized" to the PF then why not throw him in at the SF spot. You play Pietrus at the SG spot more and take away minutes from Dooling and give more to Bradley and Moore. I honestly think that this team played better when they played Moore, Bradley and Johnson more. I think Rondo plays better because he has young players running with him which opens up opportunities.

If they want JJ to play the PF then I wouldn't bulk him up too much, I'd bulk him up to KG's build because you don't want him to put on too much and have knee issues down the line like some others did.

I think you play him at the SF spot, like I said... then you have a bench of Bradley, Pietrus, JJ, Buyout/free agent player, Steamer. JJ can run up and down the court pretty well so why not?
Because if Doc did this then Dooling wouldn't get any minutes.  And we know that Doc would play Dooling over Michael Jordan if he could.

Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #66 on: March 21, 2012, 09:13:18 PM »

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If JaJuan is "undersized" to the PF then why not throw him in at the SF spot. You play Pietrus at the SG spot more and take away minutes from Dooling and give more to Bradley and Moore. I honestly think that this team played better when they played Moore, Bradley and Johnson more. I think Rondo plays better because he has young players running with him which opens up opportunities.

If they want JJ to play the PF then I wouldn't bulk him up too much, I'd bulk him up to KG's build because you don't want him to put on too much and have knee issues down the line like some others did.

I think you play him at the SF spot, like I said... then you have a bench of Bradley, Pietrus, JJ, Buyout/free agent player, Steamer. JJ can run up and down the court pretty well so why not?
Because if Doc did this then Dooling wouldn't get any minutes.  And we know that Doc would play Dooling over Michael Jordan if he could.
that's not true.  MJ would be the older and more veteran player so naturally, he'd get the minutes  ;D

Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2012, 10:14:33 PM »

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If JaJuan is "undersized" to the PF then why not throw him in at the SF spot. You play Pietrus at the SG spot more and take away minutes from Dooling and give more to Bradley and Moore. I honestly think that this team played better when they played Moore, Bradley and Johnson more. I think Rondo plays better because he has young players running with him which opens up opportunities.

If they want JJ to play the PF then I wouldn't bulk him up too much, I'd bulk him up to KG's build because you don't want him to put on too much and have knee issues down the line like some others did.

I think you play him at the SF spot, like I said... then you have a bench of Bradley, Pietrus, JJ, Buyout/free agent player, Steamer. JJ can run up and down the court pretty well so why not?

Because he doesn't have the lateral quickness to play there...

Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #68 on: March 22, 2012, 12:14:10 AM »

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JjJ has incredible quickness in the paint. He is very explosive. I would think this would create its own problems for larger slower bigs.

Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #69 on: March 22, 2012, 12:30:47 AM »

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JjJ has incredible quickness in the paint. He is very explosive. I would think this would create its own problems for larger slower bigs.

Does it create problems when he is defending and the other team is on offense?
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #70 on: March 22, 2012, 12:36:21 AM »

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JjJ has incredible quickness in the paint. He is very explosive. I would think this would create its own problems for larger slower bigs.

Does it create problems when he is defending and the other team is on offense?

It doesn't yet, but with some seasoning and added strength, it certainly could.
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2012, 01:10:48 AM »

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I like what I have seen for JJJ during this season, but, I don't mind Doc not playing this kid, he is way too skinny and just not seasoned enough to be a consistent player in the rotation yet.  Also, he is definitely a 4, not quick enough to be a 3.

I think he will be a good bench player, say, a sixth man type just like Bass was earlier in the season eventually, I do not see him being a starter on a contender.

Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2012, 02:08:58 PM »

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I can respect people's position that Johnson isn't ready. I disagree with it but I can respect. I cannot, though, respect that same opinion if offered by somebody who wants to bring in Ryan Hollins, a wildly inconsistent player with no work ethic and no heart who happens to be possibly the worst rebounding 7 footer in NBA history. Hollins sucks.

Doc needs to stop pretending he's coaching a title contender and recognize that he's coaching an old team on the verge of being pushed out of the playoff picture by Milwaukee and New York. With this brutal stretch coming up, he needs to (a) use his younger players to give more rest, including full nights off, to guys like KG, Pierce and Allen, and (b) see if one of the younger players can actually give them a spark for a mini-run to cement a playoff spot.

Sadly, we know what a core group of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Bass, KG and Pietrus is in 2012: a .500, borderline playoff team in the East. We could at least see if guys like Johnson and Moore could be a shot of energy.
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #73 on: March 22, 2012, 03:05:28 PM »

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JjJ has incredible quickness in the paint. He is very explosive. I would think this would create its own problems for larger slower bigs.

Does it create problems when he is defending and the other team is on offense?

yes, but for jjj and the celtics, not the opposing bigs who would be pushing jjj around like a rag doll under the basket.
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Re: JuJuan Johnson
« Reply #74 on: March 22, 2012, 03:25:38 PM »

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I can respect people's position that Johnson isn't ready. I disagree with it but I can respect. I cannot, though, respect that same opinion if offered by somebody who wants to bring in Ryan Hollins, a wildly inconsistent player with no work ethic and no heart who happens to be possibly the worst rebounding 7 footer in NBA history. Hollins sucks.

Doc needs to stop pretending he's coaching a title contender and recognize that he's coaching an old team on the verge of being pushed out of the playoff picture by Milwaukee and New York. With this brutal stretch coming up, he needs to (a) use his younger players to give more rest, including full nights off, to guys like KG, Pierce and Allen, and (b) see if one of the younger players can actually give them a spark for a mini-run to cement a playoff spot.

Sadly, we know what a core group of Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Bass, KG and Pietrus is in 2012: a .500, borderline playoff team in the East. We could at least see if guys like Johnson and Moore could be a shot of energy.

Well maybe you can respect KG's and Pierce's assessment of Hollins.

Hollins, who played at UCLA, spent the lockout working out and playing in games with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce.

Ainge said Garnett and Pierce urged him this summer to try and sign Hollins."They really liked his game and the way he could play with them," Ainge said. "I think he would fit in well with what we do."

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