When we sealed the Game 3 win Rondo was in the locker room. This team can play and win without Rondo. You dont play a guy who dislocated his elbow 2 days ago 39 minutes.
Doc opted to go with a guy playing on one arm over a healthy Carlos Arroyo. Anyone else think Rondo should have sat voluntarily knowing maybe a healthy player like Carlos might be able to give the team more. Nah Rondos pride would never allow that. 
I don't think too many people think Rondo should have voluntarily sat so we could get more minutes for Arroyo. Frankly I doubt he could have played as well as Rondo did tonight.
By the way, when Rondo left the game with the injury we were up 10 and when he came back in at the end of the quarter we were up 11. Treading water without Rondo was fairly impressive compared to what had happened with Rondo out of the games up until then. For the series we're a +15 with Rondo playing and -27 with him on the bench.
Tim no one here expects you to have a objective opinion on Rondo.
Do you seriously believe its better to play a guy with a dislocated elbow over a healthy player?
Haha. You're the objective one? Everything in my post was true, which in your universe translates to "hopelessly biased". God forbid someone bring some facts into one of your anti-Rondo rants.
To answer your question, I seriously think that it's better to play the players that give you the best chance of winning. Rondo didn't have a great game but I don't think it's a stretch to say he did better than Arroyo would have or Delonte would have. It didn't bother me when Doc sat Rondo to play Jeff Green late in the game. For the most part Rondo didn't really hurt our team, although clearly he wasn't at his best. And obviously it's not the first time that one of the big four have been injured or the first time that injured player was in the game with a healthy player on the bench.
right because no other point guard could possibly contribute more than 5 assists and 3 turnovers in 38 minutes.
Yes, because that's all we get from Rondo, as far as you know.
And obviously it's not the first time that one of the big four have been injured or the first time that injured player was in the game with a healthy player on the bench.
a one armed Rondo is better than a healthy Carlos is that what your saying?
I've said that explicitly multiple times. The Celts coaches seem to agree FWIW.
God forbid someone bring some facts into one of your anti-Rondo rantsyou mean Rondo facts like your efg% argument here http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=45922.75
you still havnt answered me how efg is anywhere near meaningful when a rotating interior big like Garnett stops rondos man and rondo gets a efg% rating.
Good discussion. Neither of us can demonstrate the effect rotating bigs have on Rondo or on any other point guard. I've never said that stats measure everything. Just like you were talking about how poorly Rondo defends quick point guards without being able to name a single starting point guard in the league who does it as well as Rondo, let alone better.
But really, what was the root of that discussion? Your comment of
"His defense is putrid. He cant stay in front of his man."
Let's examine that. NBA scouts and GMs voted Rondo best in the league in a few categories including best on the ball defender in the league by a pretty large margin. He's finished top 5 in DPOY the last two years. He's made first team all-defense two years in a row and been the second highest vote getter both years, easily beating the other guards. All-defense is voted on by the head coaches that have their teams play against Rondo. And, while stats don't tell you everything, they clearly back up what the coaches and GMs say.
But, go ahead. Keep telling yourself that Rondo's a putrid defender and the only reason I'd disagree is my "bias".
Also, all that stuff about head coaches and GMs thinking Rondo's the best defensive guard in the league aren't stats, but they are *facts*.
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