Game 1 against the Knicks discussion

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I will give Baby credit for just the eight shot attempted. He didn't force much and his five rebounds are always welcomed.

I will never get on Rondo for turnovers in fastbreak because he is doing the right thing even forcing the action. He needs support by his coach with personnel. Everybody can see Rondo wants to run, but Doc rather have Green on the floor with Delonte? People are right to question a deal for a player who hardly is being utilized right.

Those BBD lean-around-the-defender-off-balance 15 footers probably should've come out of the playbook.

ANd so far as not utilizing Green well, I agree, but that doesn't mean questioning the deal.  The coach, yes.

[KungPoweChicken]

Rondo almost lost the game tonight, but I'm used to that by now.

Jermaine O'Neal was the best Celtic on the court.

Ray Allen was brilliant in the second half.

Pierce was solid all game.

KG was aggressive, but didn't have his offensive game going.

Delonte looked tentative out there. Worried about the ankle?

When Shaq comes back, he and JO will make the best center tandem in the playoffs.

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Rondo almost lost the game tonight, but I'm used to that by now.

Jermaine O'Neal was the best Celtic on the court.

Ray Allen was brilliant in the second half.

Pierce was solid all game.

KG was aggressive, but didn't have his offensive game going.

Delonte looked tentative out there. Worried about the ankle?

When Shaq comes back, he and JO will make the best center tandem in the playoffs.

Those bad passes almost made me forget all those nice midrange jumpers he hit early on.

[Ogaju]

That was one heck of a game, I am glad the Cs pulled it off, it is nice to see that the can dig down and pull out a tough win at the end.

This should do well for the team's chemistry. Doc MUST find a way to get JG involved with passion. He just looks too docile out there.

Is all well with Krystic, please get him some minutes ...

[jasail]

I will give Baby credit for just the eight shot attempted. He didn't force much and his five rebounds are always welcomed.

I will never get on Rondo for turnovers in fastbreak because he is doing the right thing even forcing the action. He needs support by his coach with personnel. Everybody can see Rondo wants to run, but Doc rather have Green on the floor with Delonte? People are right to question a deal for a player who hardly is being utilized right.

I debated not responding to this because I don't want to my comments to turn this into a Perk/Green p---ing match.  But it's tough to utilize Green right when his best skill is getting out on the break but when he is on the court the team generally isn't a good rebounding team. 

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That was one heck of a game, I am glad the Cs pulled it off, it is nice to see that the can dig down and pull out a tough win at the end.

This should do well for the team's chemistry. Doc MUST find a way to get JG involved with passion. He just looks too docile out there.

Is all well with Krystic, please get him some minutes ...

i believe krstic is injured, a aching knee. you could tell that he had trouble moving around tonight in the game.

it would be nice if he were healthy enough to play 15 minutes a night and play well.

[SHAQATTACK]

great game and effort by both clubs.  Krstic needs to take a bottle of meaness pills .  At 7 foot , he needs to play like a man and not a girly man.  He needs to stand in there and punish the people trying to score inside. Go up and challenge the dunk, and make people earn the points from the stripe.

Maybe we can get Shaq a wooden leg , and just prop him up in the paint.

We need Green and Krstic more focused on the backboards, KG needs to get in their face some  , West and Rhondo shouldn't have to pound the boards.

[GreenEnvy]

I will give Baby credit for just the eight shot attempted. He didn't force much and his five rebounds are always welcomed.

I will never get on Rondo for turnovers in fastbreak because he is doing the right thing even forcing the action. He needs support by his coach with personnel. Everybody can see Rondo wants to run, but Doc rather have Green on the floor with Delonte? People are right to question a deal for a player who hardly is being utilized right.
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You can't give Rondo a pass for his boneheaded, risky play with a player down. If he brings the ball up the court they have to foul (they had one to give). That puts them in a better position going forward than a difficult pass. If you are up a basket, I can accept that play. But needing a score, go 5-on-4 and get an open shot or a foul (and then attack the next possession).

That pass means nothing now because of Ray, but had Ray not saved the day, that pass probably cost us the game.

Despite the near triple-double, Rondo played bad the majority of the game (other than his rebounding, which was much needed). He needs to step up.

[JBcat]

Some interesting things here.  A few adjustments I'd consider:

Limit PP's minutes in the 1st half by bringing in Green early.  Green showed he can guard Melo competently, and it would save PP's legs for the 2nd half/4th quarter.

Ray, I don't know.  Yeah, big shot and all that, 24 points, but he is completely dependent on others right now.  That's not starter material to me.  I love W. Ray Allen, but it's getting harder to watch him play...or rather it's harder to watch the team spend almost the whole possession trying exclusively to get him a shot, and ending up with a crappy BBD move.

Speaking of BBD, when is his contract up?  He sure does call his own number a lot once he gets the ball, and took A LOT of bad, bad, forced shots.  But he sure seems to know where to be to get the ball...

JO looked good, as did Delonte.  If only their health was reliable.

BBD...minutes should come down.  This is the series to play Green and KG together at the big spots and ATTACK.

Ronnie Turiaf is tougher than most players on our team.  Fortsonesque, but with some rudimentary skills, too.

With your first couple points I thought Doc did a good job of taking Ray out early in the first putting in Green, Pierce basically played the whole first, then they put Ray back in there to start the second with Green.   I liked that rotation. 

Ray in this game showed me he is not totally dependent on others like you said.   He had some beautiful drives most noticeably in my head was the little head fake at the 3 and a very nice lefty drive to the hoop.  He had many drives in this game and the conventional 3 point play in the second half really helped. 

Baby's minutes should come down but I really don't want to see Green play the 4.   You also had JO in foul trouble, Krstic may be a little hurt ( I don't think he played in the second half) so again their hand is kind of being forced to play Baby alot of minutes.  If we stretch a lead say in the first half I wouldn't mind throwing Murphy out there for a few minutes to see what he does.   I think he could help.

[Roy H.]

Ray, I don't know.  Yeah, big shot and all that, 24 points, but he is completely dependent on others right now.  That's not starter material to me.  I love W. Ray Allen, but it's getting harder to watch him play...or rather it's harder to watch the team spend almost the whole possession trying exclusively to get him a shot, and ending up with a crappy BBD move.

This isn't the night I would have picked to criticize Ray, who was easily our best player last night. Also, if he's dependent upon others for his offense / shooting, why would you move him to the bench, where the playmakers are inferior?

[JSD]

A great halftime adjustment by the coaching staff was having Rondo (or the 1) apply full court pressure on the Knick player bringing up the ball. It was simple, but it seemed to make a major difference. Their 2nd half shooting was atrocious, and I think it was a direct result of that applied pressure.

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Ray, I don't know.  Yeah, big shot and all that, 24 points, but he is completely dependent on others right now.  That's not starter material to me.  I love W. Ray Allen, but it's getting harder to watch him play...or rather it's harder to watch the team spend almost the whole possession trying exclusively to get him a shot, and ending up with a crappy BBD move.

This isn't the night I would have picked to criticize Ray, who was easily our best player last night. Also, if he's dependent upon others for his offense / shooting, why would you move him to the bench, where the playmakers are inferior?

1)  The opposition is inferior, too.

2)  Veteran, unselfish presence on 2nd unit.

3)  Spreads the floor.

4)  Could play fewer minutes while still having rhythm by playing chunks of time around quarters.

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Some interesting things here.  A few adjustments I'd consider:

Limit PP's minutes in the 1st half by bringing in Green early.  Green showed he can guard Melo competently, and it would save PP's legs for the 2nd half/4th quarter.

Ray, I don't know.  Yeah, big shot and all that, 24 points, but he is completely dependent on others right now.  That's not starter material to me.  I love W. Ray Allen, but it's getting harder to watch him play...or rather it's harder to watch the team spend almost the whole possession trying exclusively to get him a shot, and ending up with a crappy BBD move.

Speaking of BBD, when is his contract up?  He sure does call his own number a lot once he gets the ball, and took A LOT of bad, bad, forced shots.  But he sure seems to know where to be to get the ball...

JO looked good, as did Delonte.  If only their health was reliable.

BBD...minutes should come down.  This is the series to play Green and KG together at the big spots and ATTACK.

Ronnie Turiaf is tougher than most players on our team.  Fortsonesque, but with some rudimentary skills, too.

With your first couple points I thought Doc did a good job of taking Ray out early in the first putting in Green, Pierce basically played the whole first, then they put Ray back in there to start the second with Green.   I liked that rotation. 

Ray in this game showed me he is not totally dependent on others like you said.   He had some beautiful drives most noticeably in my head was the little head fake at the 3 and a very nice lefty drive to the hoop.  He had many drives in this game and the conventional 3 point play in the second half really helped. 

Baby's minutes should come down but I really don't want to see Green play the 4.   You also had JO in foul trouble, Krstic may be a little hurt ( I don't think he played in the second half) so again their hand is kind of being forced to play Baby alot of minutes.  If we stretch a lead say in the first half I wouldn't mind throwing Murphy out there for a few minutes to see what he does.   I think he could help.

I think the Knicks are one of very few teams where small ball with Green at the 4 is okay.  Playing him there with BBD at the 5 is aweful.  (BBD at the 5 is aweful itself.)

I'm really looking forward to BBD's contract expiring.  I can't think of many situations where he is the guy I would want out there.

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1 down 15 to go in a perfect world...a win is a win whether its by 1 or by 15.I try not to complain when we are"winning".Although i will say the difference between good Rondo and bad Rondo is staggering.