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Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2011, 02:44:34 PM »

Offline celts55

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Rondo is playing like he wants to be traded.  Probably should have traded him with Perk and brought back Westbrook (Yeah, I know OKC probably wouldn't do it). :-\

If he continues this way through the playoffs, I wonder if Danny will look to trade him.

If he continues to play like this in the playoffs, I don't know that Danny would be able to trade him.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2011, 02:45:38 PM »

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Rondo is playing like he wants to be traded.  Probably should have traded him with Perk and brought back Westbrook (Yeah, I know OKC probably wouldn't do it). :-\

If he continues this way through the playoffs, I wonder if Danny will look to trade him.

If he continues to play like this in the playoffs, I don't know that Danny would be able to trade him.

Lol.
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Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »

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Rondo is playing like he wants to be traded.  Probably should have traded him with Perk and brought back Westbrook (Yeah, I know OKC probably wouldn't do it). :-\

If he continues this way through the playoffs, I wonder if Danny will look to trade him.

If he continues to play like this in the playoffs, I don't know that Danny would be able to trade him.

Lol.

:-\ yeah looks like it.
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Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2011, 03:07:58 PM »

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Here is before Perkins trade and after numbers/percentages. On all 3 levels, significantly less numbers after his good buddy got the boot. Not counting affect of having no Shaq and possible injuries, the numbers clearly indicate not only is Rondo sulking but his bad performances post Perk Trade are clearly one big if not the biggest factor in our current late season swoon. I hope he turns it on for the playoffs because we need him to have any chance at getting number 18

Rondo had 33 games over 10 assists per game prior to the trade for 65% of games

After Trade, He had 10 games out of 24 over 10 assists for  41.6 percent of games

He had 4 games over 6 rebounds per game since trade for 16.6% and prior to trade, he had 12/51 for 23.5% of games

After trade, he had 11/24 games over 10 points per game for 45.8% of games, and prior to trade, he had 31/51 games for 61% of games.


Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2011, 03:26:44 PM »

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Here is before Perkins trade and after numbers/percentages. On all 3 levels, significantly less numbers after his good buddy got the boot. Not counting affect of having no Shaq and possible injuries, the numbers clearly indicate not only is Rondo sulking but his bad performances post Perk Trade are clearly one big if not the biggest factor in our current late season swoon. I hope he turns it on for the playoffs because we need him to have any chance at getting number 18

Rondo had 33 games over 10 assists per game prior to the trade for 65% of games

After Trade, He had 10 games out of 24 over 10 assists for  41.6 percent of games

He had 4 games over 6 rebounds per game since trade for 16.6% and prior to trade, he had 12/51 for 23.5% of games

After trade, he had 11/24 games over 10 points per game for 45.8% of games, and prior to trade, he had 31/51 games for 61% of games.



  The numbers don't indicate that Rondo is or was sulking, that's all speculation. His dropoff in production started 5-6 games after the trade. He had games of 18/4/11 and 16/5/15 right after the trade.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2011, 03:29:56 PM »

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Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been calling for Delonte to start for that past two months.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #51 on: April 11, 2011, 03:31:11 PM »

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Here is before Perkins trade and after numbers/percentages. On all 3 levels, significantly less numbers after his good buddy got the boot. Not counting affect of having no Shaq and possible injuries, the numbers clearly indicate not only is Rondo sulking but his bad performances post Perk Trade are clearly one big if not the biggest factor in our current late season swoon. I hope he turns it on for the playoffs because we need him to have any chance at getting number 18

Rondo had 33 games over 10 assists per game prior to the trade for 65% of games

After Trade, He had 10 games out of 24 over 10 assists for  41.6 percent of games

He had 4 games over 6 rebounds per game since trade for 16.6% and prior to trade, he had 12/51 for 23.5% of games

After trade, he had 11/24 games over 10 points per game for 45.8% of games, and prior to trade, he had 31/51 games for 61% of games.



  The numbers don't indicate that Rondo is or was sulking, that's all speculation. His dropoff in production started 5-6 games after the trade. He had games of 18/4/11 and 16/5/15 right after the trade.

Rondo is not sulking, he's hurt, plain and simple. Plantar fascitis doesn't just go away with a short rest. You end up compensating for it and getting other injuries as well. Sherrod Blakley also said yesterday that any talk of Rondo playing poorly because Perkins is gone is nonsense. If anything, he plays much better with Shaq on the floor. The problem is that I don't think he will heal much until the offseason, so this is the Rondo we will get for the playoffs.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #52 on: April 11, 2011, 03:32:10 PM »

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Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been calling for Delonte to start for that past two months.

  Delonte is nowhere near the player Rondo is.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2011, 03:33:07 PM »

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Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been calling for Delonte to start for that past two months.

  Delonte is nowhere near the player Rondo is.


be careful, Delonte is quite the player in many ways  ;)

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #54 on: April 11, 2011, 03:37:23 PM »

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Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been calling for Delonte to start for that past two months.

  Delonte is nowhere near the player Rondo is.


Despite his struggles I take Rondo 1,000 times out of a 1,000

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #55 on: April 11, 2011, 03:37:55 PM »

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Finally someone who agrees with me. I've been calling for Delonte to start for that past two months.

  Delonte is nowhere near the player Rondo is.


be careful, Delonte is quite the player in many ways  ;)

  Haha. Funniest post of the day.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2011, 05:21:39 PM »

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I think we have multiple problems.  Rondo, Doc, rebounding, the bench, etc.  First off Rondo sitting around for 10-12 seconds dribbling is ridiculous, but where does the blame lie there?  Sure some of it lies on Rondo, but Doc needs to be blamed for that as well.  Next, we haven't been getting any easy baskets as of late.  Sure we can say that's on Rondo too, but the first issue there is rebounding.  If we don't rebound, we can't get into the transition which is one of Rondo's strengths.  We need to be able to get Rondo into the open floor so we can start getting some easy buckets.  We have guys who can run the floor, it's time to use them.  Jeff Green is a very athletic guy, let's get him at the 4 so he can beat his man up the floor.  Are we going to suffer on the defensive end? Absolutely, but right now we need to figure out ways to get the ball in the basket because we are doing a terrible job of scoring.

I agree with this. Doc alluded to the same thing:

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"For us to establish a pace -- and that's one of the things Rondo was saying: 'How can you?'" Rivers told reporters. "They're shooting 51 percent, if they miss they get the rebound, and we're turning the ball over, so it really, I thought, affected [Rondo] the most."

I mean I'm not saying Rondo shouldn't get any of the blame, he's definitely part of the reason why we're playing badly. But when you're getting out rebounded by a ridiculous 42 to 26 and Mike Bibby has more rebounds than our two centers combined, that's a problem.

Exactly.  We need to stop assigning the blame to one specific thing.  We have multiple problems and that is bad with where we are in the season.  A healthy Shaq will fix some of these problems as he will help with rebounding and inside scoring which I think are our two biggest problems at this point.  If we can solve those problems, I think the rest of the problems will almost solve themselves.  We got outscored in the paint 44 to 26 yesterday, our turnovers though I thought we had too many we were actually +3.  We shot 45% which isn't great, but isn't all that terrible either, we were efficient with the 3 ball, shooting 6-13.  We gave up 15 offensive boards which is way too many as it allowed them to take 11 more shots than us.  Basically, my entire post can be described in saying the follow: WE NEED SHAQ.
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Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2011, 05:59:57 PM »

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Please LOCK this thread. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #58 on: April 11, 2011, 07:20:34 PM »

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Please LOCK this thread. This is absolutely ridiculous.

What exactly is ridiculous about it? Rondo was an MVP candidate early on in the season and was then a non-factor in our most important games of the season
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Re: Rondo is the Problem
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2011, 07:36:58 PM »

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We need this Rondo back if we want any chance at a championship. ASAP

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