Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet

[star18]

If the Cavs get Moon, who are they losing.  As of now they have 18 guys on their roster and Moon would make it 19 so they have to be losing somebody.

I think you're looking in the wrong place. They don't have 19 players under contract.

I know they don't have 19 players under contract, but if you go to their site they have 18 players on their roster and Moon would be 19, so they have to be losing somebody.  Just wondering who it is.    Are they losing Wally & Joe Smith?

[wdleehi]

once again i ask ........... how the hell are the cavs able to afford all these upgrades and we can't ?

all i've read is how good a player Moon would have been for this team - but somehow he is out of reach for us. then, the Cavs scoop him right up ? what the hell ?

They traded for Shaq.


They split the money the Celtics used for Wallace between two players. 

is Rasheed twice the player that either Moon or Parker is ?  what's the general opinion on that ?

if he is - and we add Daniels on top of that plus an LLE point guard who is a good shooter and then we keep
Glen Davis and Leon Powe .......... well, we may be on to something here.

Yes.  Rasheed is twice the player. 


Especially when the Celtics add Daniels.

[Fafnir]

once again i ask ........... how the hell are the cavs able to afford all these upgrades and we can't ?

all i've read is how good a player Moon would have been for this team - but somehow he is out of reach for us. then, the Cavs scoop him right up ? what the hell ?

They traded for Shaq.


They split the money the Celtics used for Wallace between two players. 

is Rasheed twice the player that either Moon or Parker is ?  what's the general opinion on that ?

if he is - and we add Daniels on top of that plus an LLE point guard who is a good shooter and then we keep
Glen Davis and Leon Powe .......... well, we may be on to something here.

Yes.  Rasheed is twice the player. 


Especially when the Celtics add Daniels.

Plus big men are more important than forwards and guards. Basketball still comes down to size.

[snively]

once again i ask ........... how the hell are the cavs able to afford all these upgrades and we can't ?

all i've read is how good a player Moon would have been for this team - but somehow he is out of reach for us. then, the Cavs scoop him right up ? what the hell ?

They traded for Shaq.


They split the money the Celtics used for Wallace between two players. 

is Rasheed twice the player that either Moon or Parker is ?  what's the general opinion on that ?

if he is - and we add Daniels on top of that plus an LLE point guard who is a good shooter and then we keep
Glen Davis and Leon Powe .......... well, we may be on to something here.

Yes.  Rasheed is twice the player. 


Especially when the Celtics add Daniels.

Plus big men are more important than forwards and guards. Basketball still comes down to size.

Sheed also addressed a huge hole on the Celtics, while Parker and Moon simply continue the theme of adding jump-shooting role-players around LeBron.  Again, I think they'll be a deadly regular season team, but the grind of a playoff series against really good teams always forces teams to rely on their Plan Bs.  The Brons have the best Plan A and the crappiest Plan Bs of any of the contenders.  Do you really want to depend on a 38-year old Shaq or Mo Williams or D West as the Robin to Bron's Batman? 

The Magic and the Lakers had great success against the Cavs in part because they could make life difficult for LeBron, guard the 3-pt line and make the role players leave their comfort zones.

The Cav defense last year wasn't enough to compensate for this, and the addition of Shaq in Ben Wallace's place will probably not change any of that.

[Fafnir]

once again i ask ........... how the hell are the cavs able to afford all these upgrades and we can't ?

all i've read is how good a player Moon would have been for this team - but somehow he is out of reach for us. then, the Cavs scoop him right up ? what the hell ?

They traded for Shaq.


They split the money the Celtics used for Wallace between two players. 

is Rasheed twice the player that either Moon or Parker is ?  what's the general opinion on that ?

if he is - and we add Daniels on top of that plus an LLE point guard who is a good shooter and then we keep
Glen Davis and Leon Powe .......... well, we may be on to something here.

Yes.  Rasheed is twice the player. 


Especially when the Celtics add Daniels.

Plus big men are more important than forwards and guards. Basketball still comes down to size.

Sheed also addressed a huge hole on the Celtics, while Parker and Moon simply continue the theme of adding jump-shooting role-players around LeBron.  Again, I think they'll be a deadly regular season team, but the grind of a playoff series against really good teams always forces teams to rely on their Plan Bs.  The Brons have the best Plan A and the crappiest Plan Bs of any of the contenders.  Do you really want to depend on a 38-year old Shaq or Mo Williams or D West as the Robin to Bron's Batman? 

The Magic and the Lakers had great success against the Cavs in part because they could make life difficult for LeBron, guard the 3-pt line and make the role players leave their comfort zones.

The Cav defense last year wasn't enough to compensate for this, and the addition of Shaq in Ben Wallace's place will probably not change any of that.

Backup 3 was a huge issue for them, as was their small back court size. It wasn't their biggest issue, but the Cavs have made solid moves this off season.

[vagrantwade]

If the Cavs get Moon, who are they losing.  As of now they have 18 guys on their roster and Moon would make it 19 so they have to be losing somebody.

I think you're looking in the wrong place. They don't have 19 players under contract.

I know they don't have 19 players under contract, but if you go to their site they have 18 players on their roster and Moon would be 19, so they have to be losing somebody.  Just wondering who it is.    Are they losing Wally & Joe Smith?

They obviously won't be resigning both Wally and Joe Smith. Why would they if they got a new C and F? Assuming they sign Moon.

[Fafnir]

If the Cavs get Moon, who are they losing.  As of now they have 18 guys on their roster and Moon would make it 19 so they have to be losing somebody.

I think you're looking in the wrong place. They don't have 19 players under contract.

I know they don't have 19 players under contract, but if you go to their site they have 18 players on their roster and Moon would be 19, so they have to be losing somebody.  Just wondering who it is.    Are they losing Wally & Joe Smith?

They obviously won't be resigning both Wally and Joe Smith. Why would they if they got a new C and F? Assuming they sign Moon.

I think they'll make a run at signing Smith to an LLE or veteran's minimum deal. They still need to add some depth at PF.

[MMacOH]

The Cavs PF depth right now is AV, Darnell Jackson and JJ Hickson.  Hickson needs to get his back healthy so he can start working on his game, tons of potential there.  Jackson is a solid defender who improved a great deal last year.  AV is what he is.  Solid defender, limited offensively.  I still expect a trade out of the Cavs before the season starts

[Fafnir]

The Cavs PF depth right now is AV, Darnell Jackson and JJ Hickson.  Hickson needs to get his back healthy so he can start working on his game, tons of potential there.  Jackson is a solid defender who improved a great deal last year.  AV is what he is.  Solid defender, limited offensively.  I still expect a trade out of the Cavs before the season starts

Who would they trade for?

[MMacOH]

The Cavs PF depth right now is AV, Darnell Jackson and JJ Hickson.  Hickson needs to get his back healthy so he can start working on his game, tons of potential there.  Jackson is a solid defender who improved a great deal last year.  AV is what he is.  Solid defender, limited offensively.  I still expect a trade out of the Cavs before the season starts

Who would they trade for?

Honestly, I have no clue.  Mo Williams came completely out of left field last year and I have a feeling the same thing may happen this year.  Everything I have read states that Ferry is not happy with the roster and it still looking to make changes

[Fafnir]

The Cavs PF depth right now is AV, Darnell Jackson and JJ Hickson.  Hickson needs to get his back healthy so he can start working on his game, tons of potential there.  Jackson is a solid defender who improved a great deal last year.  AV is what he is.  Solid defender, limited offensively.  I still expect a trade out of the Cavs before the season starts

Who would they trade for?

Honestly, I have no clue.  Mo Williams came completely out of left field last year and I have a feeling the same thing may happen this year.  Everything I have read states that Ferry is not happy with the roster and it still looking to make changes

He should be unhappy. Looking at the Cavs roster I don't think the pieces quite fit together for a contending team. Still they were very good last year, so maybe Shaq plus the new wings will be enough.

[gar]

this is probably a dumb question but can Miami sign Moon and then trade him to the Celtics?  Are we still out of the picture for moon?

Thats the brutal/brilliant part of Cleveland's offer. Even if it is not a serious offer, it ties Moon up from being included in any sign and trades.