Celts, Pritchard talking extension; how much is he worth?

[Kuberski33]

Woj:  4 years, $30 million

It's on the higher end for a backup.

I still feel like this deal is more about setting up a piece for a future trade than it is about paying Pritchard what he's worth.  Perhaps I'm not giving him enough credit, I don't know.

Good for Pritchard either way.  That'll pay the bills.

I agree with your take. It's a bit of an overpay but maybe they needed to do that in order to convince him to sign. If Joe actually uses him - unlike last year - PP could live up to the value of the contract. 

[cman88]

Woj:  4 years, $30 million

It's on the higher end for a backup.

I still feel like this deal is more about setting up a piece for a future trade than it is about paying Pritchard what he's worth.  Perhaps I'm not giving him enough credit, I don't know.

Good for Pritchard either way.  That'll pay the bills.

I agree with your take. It's a bit of an overpay but maybe they needed to do that in order to convince him to sign. If Joe actually uses him - unlike last year - PP could live up to the value of the contract.

this was my initial thought. say Pritchard performs well. now you have a $7.5million trade chip to package

[boscel33]

Woj:  4 years, $30 million

It's on the higher end for a backup.

I don't think it's really outrageous.   Spotrac has it right in that range, 4Y extension:

Y1:  6.6M
Y2:  7.2M
Y3:  7.7M
Y4:  8.3M

What are others getting or at?

[Vermont Green]

So Pritchard gets a contract and comes out and plays well in two preseason games, good for him.  We have some saying that it is an overpay for a back up (who would have thought from the cheap owners), some saying it is about right, some saying it is about having a trade asset down the road.

I see the simple answer as the most likely.  Boston likes Pritchard, believe he can help the team, and was able to sign him to what to me is a pretty team friendly deal.  And whether or not he is part of a trade at some point in the future, a player on a good contract has higher market value than a player on a bad contract.  This is not a contract that would ever need to be "dumped".  It is a good contract for a useful player.

I don't think this contract is about trading Pritchard, in fact now he has a poison pill attached to him.  In his case, the values involved are not that major, but this extension makes it harder to trade him.  I think this deal from the Celtics perspective is about keeping a useful player on the team.

Poison Pill
Payton Pritchard is on a rookie contract and signed an extension that is to begin the following season. Therefore, he has what is known as a "poison pill" contract. He can no longer be traded for a player making equal money. Instead, his current salary is averaged along with the salaries he is to receive in his extension, and that average becomes his incoming salary for trade purposes. His outgoing value for the Celtics will be $4.0M while his incoming value for the receiving team will be $6.8M.

[trickybilly]

Not sure about the "tradeable contract" commentary..1 injury and we are paper thin at the one.

[jambr380]

Not sure about the "tradeable contract" commentary..1 injury and we are paper thin at the one.

I think people mean down the line. We wouldn't really be able to trade him this season anyway without some cap gymnastics, so we will certainly be relying on Pritchard quite a bit if/when there are injuries. He is the type of player that can eat up a lot of minutes based on his playstyle, stamina, and bbiq.

[trickybilly]

Not sure about the "tradeable contract" commentary..1 injury and we are paper thin at the one.

I think people mean down the line. We wouldn't really be able to trade him this season anyway without some cap gymnastics, so we will certainly be relying on Pritchard quite a bit if/when there are injuries. He is the type of player that can eat up a lot of minutes based on his playstyle, stamina, and bbiq.

Right, fair. It does explain the length of the deal...

[Neurotic Guy]

So Pritchard gets a contract and comes out and plays well in two preseason games, good for him.  We have some saying that it is an overpay for a back up (who would have thought from the cheap owners), some saying it is about right, some saying it is about having a trade asset down the road.

I see the simple answer as the most likely.  Boston likes Pritchard, believe he can help the team, and was able to sign him to what to me is a pretty team friendly deal.  And whether or not he is part of a trade at some point in the future, a player on a good contract has higher market value than a player on a bad contract.  This is not a contract that would ever need to be "dumped".  It is a good contract for a useful player.

I don't think this contract is about trading Pritchard, in fact now he has a poison pill attached to him.  In his case, the values involved are not that major, but this extension makes it harder to trade him.  I think this deal from the Celtics perspective is about keeping a useful player on the team.

Poison Pill
Payton Pritchard is on a rookie contract and signed an extension that is to begin the following season. Therefore, he has what is known as a "poison pill" contract. He can no longer be traded for a player making equal money. Instead, his current salary is averaged along with the salaries he is to receive in his extension, and that average becomes his incoming salary for trade purposes. His outgoing value for the Celtics will be $4.0M while his incoming value for the receiving team will be $6.8M.

It’s good that knowing he’d be harder to trade that Payton chose to sign.  It seemed that he was itching to get an opportunity elsewhere with more pt.   

[obnoxiousmime]

It seems like a fair deal to me when you consider that salaries are going up. At that money, he's still someone you could move if needs be in a trade. And this is someone who is skeptical about how well he fits into a contending team.

I think Payton needs to cook to be as his maximum level, and that requires him to control the ball/get shots. We're so deep at the top level now and at least two starters will be on the court most of the time. They need their touches too since it's going to be hard to feed four guys accustomed to scoring 20-30 ppg. And that's not even mentioning White who proved last year he deserves more opportunities.

We'll probably learn a lot this season. He's their best ballhandler by far but he also gets into trouble when teams game plan for him (he can't always escape or pass comfortably out of traps) or have size at the guard position. But, for a 7.5m/year player of course you're going to have some flaws. The question is, are his positives fully allowed to shine in the role he's in and also against the best competition?

[Big333223]

Must be the season of the Pritch!

[ozgod]

Must be the season of the Pritch!

Drew Carter called it "The Pritching Hour" in his broadcast of the NY-Celtics game yesterday