What does the trade deadline / buyout approach tell us about Brad's budget?

[Roy H.]

Roy, what additions would you want on this team that would move the needle?

Alec Burks and the additional picks we would have gotten with him would have been nice.  Outside of that, I don't know what was available.

Offering the DPE to any of the recently bought out players would have been beneficial.  If offering $3m vs. $550k is the difference between getting the guy you want or not, I'd pay the extra money.

And, that's not even getting into the issue of having expendable salary could help us make trades next season.

But mostly, I just don't like Wyc acting like a pompous, lying salesman.

What's to say we didn't? Some players value fit/PT more than the money they get this year, and there's nothing wrong with that.

There's no reporting that we did.  That doesn't necessarily mean it didn't happen, but my guess is that most of these guys value an extra $2.75 million over 20 games of more consistent playing time off the bench, and would be happy to have the extra money.

[boscel33]

Letting that 17.2M TPE expire was all I needed to see that Wyc and the ownership group have not given Brad the green light to spend.  There were guys available that could have fit it for sure.  How much in TPE's have we let expire over the past handful of years?  It's a lot!

[trickybilly]

Not sure where to discuss Will Barton, but dayum if he could accept a diminshed role, he is poifect

[Goldstar88]

Letting that 17.2M TPE expire was all I needed to see that Wyc and the ownership group have not given Brad the green light to spend.  There were guys available that could have fit it for sure.  How much in TPE's have we let expire over the past handful of years?  It's a lot!

This. TP.

[Phantom255x]

Letting that 17.2M TPE expire was all I needed to see that Wyc and the ownership group have not given Brad the green light to spend.  There were guys available that could have fit it for sure.  How much in TPE's have we let expire over the past handful of years?  It's a lot!

This. TP.

Yes, TP(E) 

[Vermont Green]

Letting that 17.2M TPE expire was all I needed to see that Wyc and the ownership group have not given Brad the green light to spend.  There were guys available that could have fit it for sure.  How much in TPE's have we let expire over the past handful of years?  It's a lot!

Pretty much the only somewhat realistic option for using this TPE that has been offered is that we could have traded for Alec Burks ($10M salary).  He ended up having a good season (for a bench guy) so far in Detroit and he plays a position of need.  But he got traded to Detroit with Nerlens Noel and his $9.2M of dead weight salary.  I don't believe that there is any way we could have taken back both of them.  I see that including Noel in the deal was a big plus for the Knicks.  Not sure they do the deal otherwise.  It is certainly not a given that we could have had Burks (without Noel) if we wanted him.

I don't know what trades were discussed or not (no one does) but I don't understand how people can offer these blanket criticisms that Wyc is cheap because the Celtics didn't trade for Alec Burks.  Earlier in this discussion, it was often suggested that we should use that TPE and trade with DET for Noel, just so that we would have some salary to use in some other trade.  To me, that would have been a total waste, you don't see that being suggested so much anymore.

If you look at the off season, the Celtics signed Gallinari (+$6.5M) and traded for Brogdon (net about +$10M in salary per Mass Live), signed Hauser (basically min contract), and signed a bunch of min contracts to round things out.  At the deadline, they added Muscala (+$3.5M).  Again, I don't know what deals they may have passed on, but I think they spent their money pretty well.

Per Mass Live:

Overview: The Brogdon deal did not touch any of these exceptions since they were a straight up deal with salary matching. However, the odds of Boston using any of the exceptions this summer went down considerably after the Brogdon deal since it upped Boston’s payroll for next year by about $10 million. That combined with the Gallinari deal makes the Celtics roster look very full at the moment. The Celtics could try to add a cheap piece via trade with any of these TPEs but don’t look for any more big names to fill the exceptions without any salary being sent out.

[Moranis]

The Knicks traded 2 2nd's and cash along with Burks and Noel for the rights to Nikola Radicevic and a top 55 protected 2nd.  I'm pretty certain they would have traded Burks into Boston's TPE for a highly protected 2nd round pick.  They then could have used the 2 2nd's (if both were necessary) to ship Noel off somewhere else. 

And there were a lot of rumored trades out there of players that would have fit into the Fournier TPE this summer, some of which would have brought assets, some of which would have been salary, and some of which would have cost assets. 

[celticsclay]

The Knicks traded 2 2nd's and cash along with Burks and Noel for the rights to Nikola Radicevic and a top 55 protected 2nd.  I'm pretty certain they would have traded Burks into Boston's TPE for a highly protected 2nd round pick.  They then could have used the 2 2nd's (if both were necessary) to ship Noel off somewhere else. 

And there were a lot of rumored trades out there of players that would have fit into the Fournier TPE this summer, some of which would have brought assets, some of which would have been salary, and some of which would have cost assets.

I personally would have done the Knicks trade over the summer and it is reasonable to assume we could have. However, I will admit Noel appears to have completely bottomed out and may just not be an nba caliber player. Some of the use it just to use it ideas like trading for Duncan Robinson would have been a disaster. We would have an albatross contract for multiple years and help a rival that is in a bad situation get into a much better situation. That would have been a bad trade at the time and looks even worse now.

[SHAQATTACK]

Kids not get n new sneakers till schools out .