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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2022, 12:17:23 PM »

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I don’t think JB is disgruntled. JB can like playing in Boston and be on a winning team while also liking the idea of being the Man on his own team. He has to choose one, obviously (because this is JT’s team) and with either option, he could be happy.

Just because you like one thing doesn’t mean everything else makes you miserable. He’s playing a game he loves, while getting paid millions, and while also still being able to do the things he wants to do. He’s playing with house money.
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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #196 on: July 25, 2022, 12:19:45 PM »

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Brown tweeting SMH…

Maybe it’s because he’s been reassured the report is BS or maybe it’s because he’s upset.
Oh my god. It's almost like Jaylen knows something we don't!!!

Almost.

Of course fans know everything.

We’ve been reduced to interpreting what a 3 letter acronym on Twitter really means  :police:

In all fairness, Jaylen has become the king of cryptic tweets that could mean anything or nothing at all, lol. 

Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #197 on: July 25, 2022, 12:24:11 PM »

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I just hope Jaylen doesn’t do a Ray Allen on us when his contract’s up. Trade rumors could really mess up a relationship as shown by Ray.

Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #198 on: July 25, 2022, 12:26:46 PM »

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Brown tweeting SMH…

Maybe it’s because he’s been reassured the report is BS or maybe it’s because he’s upset.
Oh my god. It's almost like Jaylen knows something we don't!!!

Almost.

Of course fans know everything.

We’ve been reduced to interpreting what a 3 letter acronym on Twitter really means  :police:

In all fairness, Jaylen has become the king of cryptic tweets that could mean anything or nothing at all, lol.

I forgot which player said it, but he said he tweeted the seeing eyes emoji just to see how twitter would react. In short, stop trying to decipher tweets from these guys.
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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #199 on: July 25, 2022, 02:08:52 PM »

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I think Brown would be offended. Just a feeling

Yep, it's little brother syndrome.

It's interesting how the ego works in the NBA.

KG, Ray and PP said that they couldn't have come together earlier in their careers, essentially for ego reasons.

Los Angeles wasn't big enough for Shaq and Kobe.  Starbury and KG, etc.  Lots of other examples.

More recently, you've got Kyrie demanding a trade off of the Cavaliers, saying that Lebron was "sonning" him.  A handful of years of discontent later, Kyrie seemingly wants to link back up with Lebron again.

If -- and it's very speculative -- JB feels resentment that JT is untouchable and he's expendable, I get it.  I'm sure many of us have felt professional resentment before, right?

It would be understandable for JB to feel resentment. People are ambitious and to get to the NBA, let alone become a star, you really need to think of yourself as the best. I said it was little brother syndrome, but if you think about it Jaylen is really the big brother, he was drafted a year earlier, he had played in a finals before Tatum was drafted. I remember him saying he was going to take JT under his wing his rookie season, show him the ropes, because he was the sophomore and JT was the freshman.

Then JT starts to surpass him statistically as well as usage wise, and also in the minds of the fans. During that star crossed season of 2018-19, JB is the one that gets benched along with Gordon. After Cryrie left it became "JT's team". JT's name was never in any trade rumors, he was the untouchable one (other than during the AD saga). JB was always the expendable one. Robin to Tatum's batman. JT gets picked as an All-Star first, and again this past season. JT gets the max contract. JT gets the Team USA callup to the Olympics. Then in the Finals JB is the best player on the team but the headlines are all still about JT and how he underperformed.

Given that backdrop, and knowing how competitive JB is, I can understand why he would feel resentment. But to be a successful team players have to put those personal resentments away for the good of the team. I thought that during that second half of the season run they had managed to do all that, understand everyone's place in the hierarchy. But those things never really go away. As you say we all experience it in professional life, you get hired to a position and you expect to be promoted in a couple of years, then they hire some hotshot kid who ends up taking the promotion you thought was yours, and gets all the plum projects. I think JB knows he's in a great environment in Boston, with a chance to compete for multiple championships, with a solid team that he will be a main part of. But it's understandable if he feels he wants to be The Man somewhere else. Many players have done that. Cryrie as you mentioned, and others.

It becomes a head vs heart decision.
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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #200 on: July 25, 2022, 03:48:20 PM »

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I think Brown would be offended. Just a feeling

Yep, it's little brother syndrome.

It's interesting how the ego works in the NBA.

KG, Ray and PP said that they couldn't have come together earlier in their careers, essentially for ego reasons.

Los Angeles wasn't big enough for Shaq and Kobe.  Starbury and KG, etc.  Lots of other examples.

More recently, you've got Kyrie demanding a trade off of the Cavaliers, saying that Lebron was "sonning" him.  A handful of years of discontent later, Kyrie seemingly wants to link back up with Lebron again.

If -- and it's very speculative -- JB feels resentment that JT is untouchable and he's expendable, I get it.  I'm sure many of us have felt professional resentment before, right?

It would be understandable for JB to feel resentment. People are ambitious and to get to the NBA, let alone become a star, you really need to think of yourself as the best. I said it was little brother syndrome, but if you think about it Jaylen is really the big brother, he was drafted a year earlier, he had played in a finals before Tatum was drafted. I remember him saying he was going to take JT under his wing his rookie season, show him the ropes, because he was the sophomore and JT was the freshman.

Then JT starts to surpass him statistically as well as usage wise, and also in the minds of the fans. During that star crossed season of 2018-19, JB is the one that gets benched along with Gordon. After Cryrie left it became "JT's team". JT's name was never in any trade rumors, he was the untouchable one (other than during the AD saga). JB was always the expendable one. Robin to Tatum's batman. JT gets picked as an All-Star first, and again this past season. JT gets the max contract. JT gets the Team USA callup to the Olympics. Then in the Finals JB is the best player on the team but the headlines are all still about JT and how he underperformed.

Given that backdrop, and knowing how competitive JB is, I can understand why he would feel resentment. But to be a successful team players have to put those personal resentments away for the good of the team. I thought that during that second half of the season run they had managed to do all that, understand everyone's place in the hierarchy. But those things never really go away. As you say we all experience it in professional life, you get hired to a position and you expect to be promoted in a couple of years, then they hire some hotshot kid who ends up taking the promotion you thought was yours, and gets all the plum projects. I think JB knows he's in a great environment in Boston, with a chance to compete for multiple championships, with a solid team that he will be a main part of. But it's understandable if he feels he wants to be The Man somewhere else. Many players have done that. Cryrie as you mentioned, and others.

It becomes a head vs heart decision.

A few things here that are a bit revisionist: JB didn't make the Olympics roster because he was recovering from wrist surgery. It's quite possible - even likely - he would've gotten the call up or been selected as a replacement for Beal if he was medically cleared. On not getting a max deal - at the time he signed the extension, many on this board thought it was an overpay. I also don't believe the team has treated him as expendable. Whenever there's been rumors in the past - Harden, Simmons, whoever - the Celtics mouthpieces, Adam Himmelsbach and Mark Murphy, squashes it.

Does JB want to be the man? I don't know. Does he want his own team? Maybe. But as JT said about the prospect of them splitting up, the grass isn't always greener. Jaylen has been winning since he stepped into the league. I'm sure he realizes a lot of guys in his draft position go to rebuilding teams where they get to be the man but endure of a lot losing along the way.
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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #201 on: July 26, 2022, 05:06:37 PM »

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Jaylen Brown wants to remain in Boston in spite of trade talks

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When WEEI’s Jermaine Wiggins claimed that Jaylen Brown told him he wouldn’t re-sign in Boston when his contract expires in 2024, Brown was perplexed and denied the report behind closed doors, sources familiar with Brown’s thinking told The Athletic. In spite of the trade talks, Brown wants to be in Boston. – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic

Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #202 on: July 26, 2022, 06:23:30 PM »

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Jaylen Brown wants to remain in Boston in spite of trade talks

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When WEEI’s Jermaine Wiggins claimed that Jaylen Brown told him he wouldn’t re-sign in Boston when his contract expires in 2024, Brown was perplexed and denied the report behind closed doors, sources familiar with Brown’s thinking told The Athletic. In spite of the trade talks, Brown wants to be in Boston. – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic

Saw this. It probably deserves its own thread when there are 15 pages speculating he is disgruntled

Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #203 on: July 26, 2022, 06:41:24 PM »

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Jaylen Brown wants to remain in Boston in spite of trade talks

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When WEEI’s Jermaine Wiggins claimed that Jaylen Brown told him he wouldn’t re-sign in Boston when his contract expires in 2024, Brown was perplexed and denied the report behind closed doors, sources familiar with Brown’s thinking told The Athletic. In spite of the trade talks, Brown wants to be in Boston. – via Jared Weiss @ The Athletic
Per Jared Weiss.

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Re: Is Jaylen disgruntled?
« Reply #204 on: July 27, 2022, 07:44:53 PM »

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“Obviously, he’s under contract with the Celtics for two more years and I haven’t heard anything about any type of displeasure that he’s had with the organization,” said Charania.

“Over these last two or three years, I think you’ve seen a lot of growth in the organization when it comes to Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and Marcus Smart,” added The Athletic NBA insider.

“Just a couple of years ago in the bubble, they had some very testy moments. So for them to go from that to being a couple of wins away from an NBA … Championship, I think speaks a lot to the growth of the organization. But I think overall, this is a team that I think has grown a lot, has a lot more growth potentially to do, but I haven’t heard of any significant displeasure from Jaylen Brown, any (trade) requests or anything like that from his side as of right now.”



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