Prediction: Beal will sign in Boston in 2022

[Birdman]

And tired of ppl talking bout age when it comes to Lillard or Beal..if u want a championship, u got to sacrifice some picks or young guys..whatever it takes to bring a championship, I’m all for it..rather have 1 title than 4 ECFs in, let’s say next 6 years

[footey]

Unlikely.  Just better to trade for him now.  Especially since to sign him you basically can't have Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Williams, Williams, Horford, and maybe Langford.

Much better to just acquire him centered on a package of Smart, Thompson, Langford, R. Williams, and future picks.  Then you get to save Horford,, Fournier, and G. Williams to actually build a real team.  You also can then give Beal more years and more money making it far less likely that he would actually leave.

Except that Langford, Nesmith and Robert Williams are the guys that matter for the long term. Horford, Fournier and G Williams do not. Keeping Fournier and obtaining Beal (or anyone other than a center or point guard that starts) effectively deletes any future on the team for Langford and/or Nesmith.

Robert Williams is either a top 10 center, or a dead weight. I have to believe there is a way to save him and find that out.

I think going for Beal is a mistake, but it is better to consolidate around youth and picks than it is to trade for him. I'd rather have Beal and Langford and Nesmith than Beal and Fournier.

In order to sign Beal outright, Robert Williams almost certainly would not be on the team and it is quite possible that Langford would also need to be gone.  There just isn't an easy way to make the room for Beal, with both Brown and Tatum on the team, without basically gutting the roster.  So, if you are basically gutting the team to sign him outright, Boston is just much better off trading for him this summer when it can use expiring contracts of Smart and Thompson as the money, a young player or two, and future draft picks.  Not only do you ensure you land Beal, you get him for an extra year of his prime, and you can save way more of the depth of the team to acquire him.  If by some chance he leaves next summer, well then you have basically max room to sign a different free agent if you let Horford go, but I suspect Beal would end up signing a 5 year max, taking him through his prime and hopefully encouraging both Tatum and Brown to stay past their existing contracts.

Beal, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Horford is a superb starting 5 and there is some quality young players and depth on the bench in Pritchard, Langford or Nesmith, G. Williams, Parker, Brown, Edwards and then possibly Ojeleye and Kornet.  Even if you bring back the latter two, there are still 2 open roster spots to land some veteran minimum type players.  Maybe Love if he gets bought out (as an example). 

You don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

That starting 5 has zero interior defense and would get crushed by most playoff teams.

Brooklyn's healthy starting 5 had even less defence than that one and was smoking everyone until they got hurt

That is ridiculous, comparing that lineup to the Nets.   But glad you brought them up. The Nets to a man mentioned that they would not go into the paint when Rob Williams was healthy and protecting it.  Is Al Horford going to do that? 35 year old Al Horford?

What about the Suns? That starting 5 would crush most of the playoff teams in this playoff run.

Also, when? Source?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-celtics-robert-williams-blocks-20210525-4zsebpmcqvab5gbjgwmnlbaxza-story.html

https://nypost.com/2021/05/23/nba-playoffs-robert-williams-iii-poses-unexpected-nets-test/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003496-nets-kyrie-irving-james-harden-praise-celtics-robert-williams-after-game-1

Brooklyn Nets stars James Harden and Kyrie Irving praised Boston Celtics center Robert Williams III for his strong defensive performance Saturday in Game 1 of the teams' first-round playoff series.

"He contested everything, both at the rim and on the perimeter," Harden told reporters after the Nets' 104-93 comeback victory. "... He's one of the reasons why we didn't shoot so well."

Irving added: "We'll be more aware going into Game 2. He's shifting over on every one of our drives. His timing is amazing."

“You have to be aware of him. Obviously, he’s one of the best defenders that’s on the floor,” said Nets sharpshooter Joe Harris, who Williams blocked twice at the rim in Game 1. “(The) ideal scenario is you put guys in the best position to succeed. So if that means getting Robert Williams out of the paint or off of the ball, that’s what we’re trying to do.”

“We’ll just be more aware going into Game 2,” Kyrie Irving said. “He’s shifting over every single time on every one of our drives, so we’ve just got to be a little bit smarter. But his timing is amazing.

“It’s great to see a big that’s active in our game, and he challenges you at the rim every single time. So it’s just going to test our IQ for the rest of these games, and we’ve just got to make the right play.” (Kyrie Irving)

“I think too many times we lined him up to go against him, and we did unnecessarily. He was outstanding and then other times [it was us],” Steve Nash said. “He was just great, made big plays, whether it was on the ball, off the ball, used his length and athleticism. But there was times we were a little bit naive at times to go at him unnecessarily in the wrong positions.

[crownontherocks]

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillyHeyen/status/1414028873621254146

The kids are talking so no tampering

[Moranis]

Unlikely.  Just better to trade for him now.  Especially since to sign him you basically can't have Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Williams, Williams, Horford, and maybe Langford.

Much better to just acquire him centered on a package of Smart, Thompson, Langford, R. Williams, and future picks.  Then you get to save Horford,, Fournier, and G. Williams to actually build a real team.  You also can then give Beal more years and more money making it far less likely that he would actually leave.

Except that Langford, Nesmith and Robert Williams are the guys that matter for the long term. Horford, Fournier and G Williams do not. Keeping Fournier and obtaining Beal (or anyone other than a center or point guard that starts) effectively deletes any future on the team for Langford and/or Nesmith.

Robert Williams is either a top 10 center, or a dead weight. I have to believe there is a way to save him and find that out.

I think going for Beal is a mistake, but it is better to consolidate around youth and picks than it is to trade for him. I'd rather have Beal and Langford and Nesmith than Beal and Fournier.

In order to sign Beal outright, Robert Williams almost certainly would not be on the team and it is quite possible that Langford would also need to be gone.  There just isn't an easy way to make the room for Beal, with both Brown and Tatum on the team, without basically gutting the roster.  So, if you are basically gutting the team to sign him outright, Boston is just much better off trading for him this summer when it can use expiring contracts of Smart and Thompson as the money, a young player or two, and future draft picks.  Not only do you ensure you land Beal, you get him for an extra year of his prime, and you can save way more of the depth of the team to acquire him.  If by some chance he leaves next summer, well then you have basically max room to sign a different free agent if you let Horford go, but I suspect Beal would end up signing a 5 year max, taking him through his prime and hopefully encouraging both Tatum and Brown to stay past their existing contracts.

Beal, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Horford is a superb starting 5 and there is some quality young players and depth on the bench in Pritchard, Langford or Nesmith, G. Williams, Parker, Brown, Edwards and then possibly Ojeleye and Kornet.  Even if you bring back the latter two, there are still 2 open roster spots to land some veteran minimum type players.  Maybe Love if he gets bought out (as an example). 

You don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

That starting 5 has zero interior defense and would get crushed by most playoff teams.

Brooklyn's healthy starting 5 had even less defence than that one and was smoking everyone until they got hurt

That is ridiculous, comparing that lineup to the Nets.   But glad you brought them up. The Nets to a man mentioned that they would not go into the paint when Rob Williams was healthy and protecting it.  Is Al Horford going to do that? 35 year old Al Horford?

What about the Suns? That starting 5 would crush most of the playoff teams in this playoff run.

Also, when? Source?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-celtics-robert-williams-blocks-20210525-4zsebpmcqvab5gbjgwmnlbaxza-story.html

https://nypost.com/2021/05/23/nba-playoffs-robert-williams-iii-poses-unexpected-nets-test/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003496-nets-kyrie-irving-james-harden-praise-celtics-robert-williams-after-game-1

Brooklyn Nets stars James Harden and Kyrie Irving praised Boston Celtics center Robert Williams III for his strong defensive performance Saturday in Game 1 of the teams' first-round playoff series.

"He contested everything, both at the rim and on the perimeter," Harden told reporters after the Nets' 104-93 comeback victory. "... He's one of the reasons why we didn't shoot so well."

Irving added: "We'll be more aware going into Game 2. He's shifting over on every one of our drives. His timing is amazing."

“You have to be aware of him. Obviously, he’s one of the best defenders that’s on the floor,” said Nets sharpshooter Joe Harris, who Williams blocked twice at the rim in Game 1. “(The) ideal scenario is you put guys in the best position to succeed. So if that means getting Robert Williams out of the paint or off of the ball, that’s what we’re trying to do.”

“We’ll just be more aware going into Game 2,” Kyrie Irving said. “He’s shifting over every single time on every one of our drives, so we’ve just got to be a little bit smarter. But his timing is amazing.

“It’s great to see a big that’s active in our game, and he challenges you at the rim every single time. So it’s just going to test our IQ for the rest of these games, and we’ve just got to make the right play.” (Kyrie Irving)

“I think too many times we lined him up to go against him, and we did unnecessarily. He was outstanding and then other times [it was us],” Steve Nash said. “He was just great, made big plays, whether it was on the ball, off the ball, used his length and athleticism. But there was times we were a little bit naive at times to go at him unnecessarily in the wrong positions.

they don't say they won't go into the paint

[GreenShooter]

Haven't we learned by now that Tatum and Brown don't work with another ball-dominant player? We should be taking that 35 million or whatever and investing it in multiple high quality role players like Crowder, Dragic, Poeltl, etc. 'Big Threes' work when they all have different but complementary skill sets. Bosh / Lebron / Dwade. Klay / Green / Curry. Allen / Pierce / Garnett. Three ball-dominant scorers and no bench? Good luck. Brooklyn's experiment only worked because Harden was able to lean more into his point guard/creator tendencies, setting up the other two (and they had Joe Harris, one of the top 2-3 3 point shooters in the league). Who does that of Beal / Tatum / Brown?

to hear Udoka say it, it was Brad’s fault the C’s were 27th in the league in assists, not the players. I don’t tend to agree, completely. They need more seasoning and some more complimentary players. And I don’t think Smart is one of those players. I would definitely take a chance on Beal if you can surround them with team players who have specific skill sets.

[gouki88]

Unlikely.  Just better to trade for him now.  Especially since to sign him you basically can't have Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Williams, Williams, Horford, and maybe Langford.

Much better to just acquire him centered on a package of Smart, Thompson, Langford, R. Williams, and future picks.  Then you get to save Horford,, Fournier, and G. Williams to actually build a real team.  You also can then give Beal more years and more money making it far less likely that he would actually leave.

Except that Langford, Nesmith and Robert Williams are the guys that matter for the long term. Horford, Fournier and G Williams do not. Keeping Fournier and obtaining Beal (or anyone other than a center or point guard that starts) effectively deletes any future on the team for Langford and/or Nesmith.

Robert Williams is either a top 10 center, or a dead weight. I have to believe there is a way to save him and find that out.

I think going for Beal is a mistake, but it is better to consolidate around youth and picks than it is to trade for him. I'd rather have Beal and Langford and Nesmith than Beal and Fournier.

In order to sign Beal outright, Robert Williams almost certainly would not be on the team and it is quite possible that Langford would also need to be gone.  There just isn't an easy way to make the room for Beal, with both Brown and Tatum on the team, without basically gutting the roster.  So, if you are basically gutting the team to sign him outright, Boston is just much better off trading for him this summer when it can use expiring contracts of Smart and Thompson as the money, a young player or two, and future draft picks.  Not only do you ensure you land Beal, you get him for an extra year of his prime, and you can save way more of the depth of the team to acquire him.  If by some chance he leaves next summer, well then you have basically max room to sign a different free agent if you let Horford go, but I suspect Beal would end up signing a 5 year max, taking him through his prime and hopefully encouraging both Tatum and Brown to stay past their existing contracts.

Beal, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Horford is a superb starting 5 and there is some quality young players and depth on the bench in Pritchard, Langford or Nesmith, G. Williams, Parker, Brown, Edwards and then possibly Ojeleye and Kornet.  Even if you bring back the latter two, there are still 2 open roster spots to land some veteran minimum type players.  Maybe Love if he gets bought out (as an example). 

You don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

That starting 5 has zero interior defense and would get crushed by most playoff teams.

Brooklyn's healthy starting 5 had even less defence than that one and was smoking everyone until they got hurt

That is ridiculous, comparing that lineup to the Nets.   But glad you brought them up. The Nets to a man mentioned that they would not go into the paint when Rob Williams was healthy and protecting it.  Is Al Horford going to do that? 35 year old Al Horford?

What about the Suns? That starting 5 would crush most of the playoff teams in this playoff run.

Also, when? Source?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-celtics-robert-williams-blocks-20210525-4zsebpmcqvab5gbjgwmnlbaxza-story.html

https://nypost.com/2021/05/23/nba-playoffs-robert-williams-iii-poses-unexpected-nets-test/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003496-nets-kyrie-irving-james-harden-praise-celtics-robert-williams-after-game-1

Brooklyn Nets stars James Harden and Kyrie Irving praised Boston Celtics center Robert Williams III for his strong defensive performance Saturday in Game 1 of the teams' first-round playoff series.

"He contested everything, both at the rim and on the perimeter," Harden told reporters after the Nets' 104-93 comeback victory. "... He's one of the reasons why we didn't shoot so well."

Irving added: "We'll be more aware going into Game 2. He's shifting over on every one of our drives. His timing is amazing."

“You have to be aware of him. Obviously, he’s one of the best defenders that’s on the floor,” said Nets sharpshooter Joe Harris, who Williams blocked twice at the rim in Game 1. “(The) ideal scenario is you put guys in the best position to succeed. So if that means getting Robert Williams out of the paint or off of the ball, that’s what we’re trying to do.”

“We’ll just be more aware going into Game 2,” Kyrie Irving said. “He’s shifting over every single time on every one of our drives, so we’ve just got to be a little bit smarter. But his timing is amazing.

“It’s great to see a big that’s active in our game, and he challenges you at the rim every single time. So it’s just going to test our IQ for the rest of these games, and we’ve just got to make the right play.” (Kyrie Irving)

“I think too many times we lined him up to go against him, and we did unnecessarily. He was outstanding and then other times [it was us],” Steve Nash said. “He was just great, made big plays, whether it was on the ball, off the ball, used his length and athleticism. But there was times we were a little bit naive at times to go at him unnecessarily in the wrong positions.

No mention of what you said

[footey]

Unlikely.  Just better to trade for him now.  Especially since to sign him you basically can't have Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Williams, Williams, Horford, and maybe Langford.

Much better to just acquire him centered on a package of Smart, Thompson, Langford, R. Williams, and future picks.  Then you get to save Horford,, Fournier, and G. Williams to actually build a real team.  You also can then give Beal more years and more money making it far less likely that he would actually leave.

Except that Langford, Nesmith and Robert Williams are the guys that matter for the long term. Horford, Fournier and G Williams do not. Keeping Fournier and obtaining Beal (or anyone other than a center or point guard that starts) effectively deletes any future on the team for Langford and/or Nesmith.

Robert Williams is either a top 10 center, or a dead weight. I have to believe there is a way to save him and find that out.

I think going for Beal is a mistake, but it is better to consolidate around youth and picks than it is to trade for him. I'd rather have Beal and Langford and Nesmith than Beal and Fournier.

In order to sign Beal outright, Robert Williams almost certainly would not be on the team and it is quite possible that Langford would also need to be gone.  There just isn't an easy way to make the room for Beal, with both Brown and Tatum on the team, without basically gutting the roster.  So, if you are basically gutting the team to sign him outright, Boston is just much better off trading for him this summer when it can use expiring contracts of Smart and Thompson as the money, a young player or two, and future draft picks.  Not only do you ensure you land Beal, you get him for an extra year of his prime, and you can save way more of the depth of the team to acquire him.  If by some chance he leaves next summer, well then you have basically max room to sign a different free agent if you let Horford go, but I suspect Beal would end up signing a 5 year max, taking him through his prime and hopefully encouraging both Tatum and Brown to stay past their existing contracts.

Beal, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Horford is a superb starting 5 and there is some quality young players and depth on the bench in Pritchard, Langford or Nesmith, G. Williams, Parker, Brown, Edwards and then possibly Ojeleye and Kornet.  Even if you bring back the latter two, there are still 2 open roster spots to land some veteran minimum type players.  Maybe Love if he gets bought out (as an example). 

You don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

That starting 5 has zero interior defense and would get crushed by most playoff teams.

Brooklyn's healthy starting 5 had even less defence than that one and was smoking everyone until they got hurt

That is ridiculous, comparing that lineup to the Nets.   But glad you brought them up. The Nets to a man mentioned that they would not go into the paint when Rob Williams was healthy and protecting it.  Is Al Horford going to do that? 35 year old Al Horford?

What about the Suns? That starting 5 would crush most of the playoff teams in this playoff run.

Also, when? Source?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-celtics-robert-williams-blocks-20210525-4zsebpmcqvab5gbjgwmnlbaxza-story.html

https://nypost.com/2021/05/23/nba-playoffs-robert-williams-iii-poses-unexpected-nets-test/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003496-nets-kyrie-irving-james-harden-praise-celtics-robert-williams-after-game-1

Brooklyn Nets stars James Harden and Kyrie Irving praised Boston Celtics center Robert Williams III for his strong defensive performance Saturday in Game 1 of the teams' first-round playoff series.

"He contested everything, both at the rim and on the perimeter," Harden told reporters after the Nets' 104-93 comeback victory. "... He's one of the reasons why we didn't shoot so well."

Irving added: "We'll be more aware going into Game 2. He's shifting over on every one of our drives. His timing is amazing."

“You have to be aware of him. Obviously, he’s one of the best defenders that’s on the floor,” said Nets sharpshooter Joe Harris, who Williams blocked twice at the rim in Game 1. “(The) ideal scenario is you put guys in the best position to succeed. So if that means getting Robert Williams out of the paint or off of the ball, that’s what we’re trying to do.”

“We’ll just be more aware going into Game 2,” Kyrie Irving said. “He’s shifting over every single time on every one of our drives, so we’ve just got to be a little bit smarter. But his timing is amazing.

“It’s great to see a big that’s active in our game, and he challenges you at the rim every single time. So it’s just going to test our IQ for the rest of these games, and we’ve just got to make the right play.” (Kyrie Irving)

“I think too many times we lined him up to go against him, and we did unnecessarily. He was outstanding and then other times [it was us],” Steve Nash said. “He was just great, made big plays, whether it was on the ball, off the ball, used his length and athleticism. But there was times we were a little bit naive at times to go at him unnecessarily in the wrong positions.

No mention of what you said

Essentially they did.  Guys are marveling at Rob's interior presence and how difficult he made it on them, not to mention with a turf toe injury: Nash, Harden, Kyrie, Joe Harris.....We all saw the performance, it was dominant. And once Rob was gone, they attacked the paint repeatedly.  I'm puzzled by your reluctance to acknowledge what a weapon he can be for us on defense.

[gouki88]

Unlikely.  Just better to trade for him now.  Especially since to sign him you basically can't have Smart, Thompson, Fournier, Williams, Williams, Horford, and maybe Langford.

Much better to just acquire him centered on a package of Smart, Thompson, Langford, R. Williams, and future picks.  Then you get to save Horford,, Fournier, and G. Williams to actually build a real team.  You also can then give Beal more years and more money making it far less likely that he would actually leave.

Except that Langford, Nesmith and Robert Williams are the guys that matter for the long term. Horford, Fournier and G Williams do not. Keeping Fournier and obtaining Beal (or anyone other than a center or point guard that starts) effectively deletes any future on the team for Langford and/or Nesmith.

Robert Williams is either a top 10 center, or a dead weight. I have to believe there is a way to save him and find that out.

I think going for Beal is a mistake, but it is better to consolidate around youth and picks than it is to trade for him. I'd rather have Beal and Langford and Nesmith than Beal and Fournier.

In order to sign Beal outright, Robert Williams almost certainly would not be on the team and it is quite possible that Langford would also need to be gone.  There just isn't an easy way to make the room for Beal, with both Brown and Tatum on the team, without basically gutting the roster.  So, if you are basically gutting the team to sign him outright, Boston is just much better off trading for him this summer when it can use expiring contracts of Smart and Thompson as the money, a young player or two, and future draft picks.  Not only do you ensure you land Beal, you get him for an extra year of his prime, and you can save way more of the depth of the team to acquire him.  If by some chance he leaves next summer, well then you have basically max room to sign a different free agent if you let Horford go, but I suspect Beal would end up signing a 5 year max, taking him through his prime and hopefully encouraging both Tatum and Brown to stay past their existing contracts.

Beal, Fournier, Brown, Tatum, Horford is a superb starting 5 and there is some quality young players and depth on the bench in Pritchard, Langford or Nesmith, G. Williams, Parker, Brown, Edwards and then possibly Ojeleye and Kornet.  Even if you bring back the latter two, there are still 2 open roster spots to land some veteran minimum type players.  Maybe Love if he gets bought out (as an example). 

You don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today.

That starting 5 has zero interior defense and would get crushed by most playoff teams.

Brooklyn's healthy starting 5 had even less defence than that one and was smoking everyone until they got hurt

That is ridiculous, comparing that lineup to the Nets.   But glad you brought them up. The Nets to a man mentioned that they would not go into the paint when Rob Williams was healthy and protecting it.  Is Al Horford going to do that? 35 year old Al Horford?

What about the Suns? That starting 5 would crush most of the playoff teams in this playoff run.

Also, when? Source?

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/nets/ny-nets-celtics-robert-williams-blocks-20210525-4zsebpmcqvab5gbjgwmnlbaxza-story.html

https://nypost.com/2021/05/23/nba-playoffs-robert-williams-iii-poses-unexpected-nets-test/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10003496-nets-kyrie-irving-james-harden-praise-celtics-robert-williams-after-game-1

Brooklyn Nets stars James Harden and Kyrie Irving praised Boston Celtics center Robert Williams III for his strong defensive performance Saturday in Game 1 of the teams' first-round playoff series.

"He contested everything, both at the rim and on the perimeter," Harden told reporters after the Nets' 104-93 comeback victory. "... He's one of the reasons why we didn't shoot so well."

Irving added: "We'll be more aware going into Game 2. He's shifting over on every one of our drives. His timing is amazing."

“You have to be aware of him. Obviously, he’s one of the best defenders that’s on the floor,” said Nets sharpshooter Joe Harris, who Williams blocked twice at the rim in Game 1. “(The) ideal scenario is you put guys in the best position to succeed. So if that means getting Robert Williams out of the paint or off of the ball, that’s what we’re trying to do.”

“We’ll just be more aware going into Game 2,” Kyrie Irving said. “He’s shifting over every single time on every one of our drives, so we’ve just got to be a little bit smarter. But his timing is amazing.

“It’s great to see a big that’s active in our game, and he challenges you at the rim every single time. So it’s just going to test our IQ for the rest of these games, and we’ve just got to make the right play.” (Kyrie Irving)

“I think too many times we lined him up to go against him, and we did unnecessarily. He was outstanding and then other times [it was us],” Steve Nash said. “He was just great, made big plays, whether it was on the ball, off the ball, used his length and athleticism. But there was times we were a little bit naive at times to go at him unnecessarily in the wrong positions.

No mention of what you said

Essentially they did.  Guys are marveling at Rob's interior presence and how difficult he made it on them, not to mention with a turf toe injury: Nash, Harden, Kyrie, Joe Harris.....We all saw the performance, it was dominant. And once Rob was gone, they attacked the paint repeatedly.  I'm puzzled by your reluctance to acknowledge what a weapon he can be for us on defense.

Giving credit to a defender is pretty different to saying you're scared of attacking him. You'll also note how Brooklyn made TimeLord ineffective in game 2 by baiting him into 5 fouls in 16 minutes, and them proceeding to hand us a 22 point loss (largest of the series), right?