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Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2019, 05:56:41 PM »

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He reminds me a bit of Shai GA in college, but more skilled/polished offensively and not as tough defensively.  He looks like he has an NBA future, possibly a very high level one, and seems to have the right kind of humble-ish demeanor to enable him to grow.

Yeah he looks the goods, will be interesting how him and Jalen Green turn out as NBA prospects, as the both have the same type of attributes same class and one is from California, the other Massachusetts.

It’s amazing looking back how poor Boston’s record of producing elite NBA talent is given the size of the city.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2019, 06:40:02 PM »

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Would rather Jalen Green

Wow!

Another elite 6-5 SG.

Give us a list of the players in the NBA that are elite shooting guards.

I think you will find its a pretty short list.

But every year you'll see at least 5 new elite 6-5 to 6-7 prospects from high school.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2019, 06:41:09 PM »

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Would rather Jalen Green

Wow!

Another elite 6-5 SG.
I get your point about athletic 6'5-6'7 wings being very commonplace, but I think you might be selling Brown a bit short because of his already good defence, which can certainly become great defence. Many of the All-Star guard-wings in this league who came in as defence-first prospects with rough offensive games took a long time to develop (Kawhi, Butler, Oladipo come to mind), so I think Boston is definitely willing to wait.

We'll see his value when we see what his next contract is though

Yes, Boston is willing to wait.

When Yabu was waived, it was clear Ainge will wait and give the team a few months before making any moves.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2019, 06:45:37 PM »

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This is a thread on Terrance Clarke, a local Boston prospect. Stay on subject. This thread is not about Jaylen Brown. Go to the myriad of Brown threads to talk about him.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2019, 06:48:23 PM »

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Terrance Clarke is a perfect example of why Jaylen Brown is not as valuable as some Celtic fans think.

Every year there's always an elite 6-6 or 6-7 guard entering the draft.

If Jaylen Brown proves me wrong this coming season, I'll gladly admit that I was wrong about Brown.
But if Brown just puts up 14 to 16 points per game, I don't think he's worth keeping long term.

You are underselling what Brown provides on the court. Basketball is just more than stats. It's the same reason why people value Smart so much despite his poor shooting.

Even Bill Russell only averaged 15 PPG in his entire NBA career.

We only have so much lottery pick to replace Brown. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We wouldn't get Brown or Tatum without lottery picks in the first place. And there's no guarantee that MEM pick will hit lottery.

I'm not underselling Brown.

Brown and Rozier had their chance to prove that they have All-Star potential in Game 7 against the Cavs in 2018.

But what did Brown and Rozier do in that Game 7 against Lebron?


Both Brown and Rozier failed to rise to the occasion.

Last season Smart was injured for most of the playoffs.
Brown played poorly against the Pacers and played well against the Bucks.
I just don't see Brown becoming a superstar in the NBA.
Maybe a very good role player, but not a star player.

That's why I'm not sold on Brown for the long term.

But Jaylen Brown will have his chance to prove me wrong this coming season.

If Brown plays well and the Celts keep winning games then I'll gladly admit I was wrong about Brown.

Until that happens, I still believe the Celts are better off having a guy like Bradley Beal at SG.
1. Search their stat lines in game 6 when they were the only ones who showed up to nip the series in the bud.
2. He played reasonably well in that Bucks series. Sure he laid an egg in the first two games when it came to scoring, but his defense on Bogdanovic was fantastic, and he scored well to close out the series in games 3 and 4.
Your assessment of him being a very good role player is reasonable though, although I see him already at that level with much more room for growth. We'll see when the season starts.

Agree.

If Brown's scoring increases now that Kyrie's gone, I don't think there's a need to trade him and Smart.

I just need to see Brown raising his level of play.

If Tatum is part of the 12-man roster of Team USA and Brown is not, that proves that Tatum is better than Brown at this point in time.

Geez, your dislike of Jaylen is more than apparent. There's no need to be concerned over which one is better when they can just hold on to both. Hayward is the guy who needs to prove he is worth keeping if anyone.

It's not the dislike of Brown, it's wanting an upgrade.

This debate about Jaylen Brown will be settled once and for all this coming season.

It's similar to Jeff Green's situation a few years ago.
Jeff Green had so much talent but he could never turn into an All-Star.

Maybe Jaylen Brown will turn into an All-Star or maybe Jaylen will end up like Jeff Green.
Right now it's all speculation because unlike Jamal Murray and Buddy Hield, Jaylen Brown has yet to live up to the expectations of a former #3 pick.
And Jaylen has only one season left to prove he's worth keeping.

If by year 4 Jaylen still has not made a huge improvement then he's really more of a Jeff Green.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2019, 07:03:46 PM »

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Terrance Clarke is a perfect example of why Jaylen Brown is not as valuable as some Celtic fans think.

Every year there's always an elite 6-6 or 6-7 guard entering the draft.

If Jaylen Brown proves me wrong this coming season, I'll gladly admit that I was wrong about Brown.
But if Brown just puts up 14 to 16 points per game, I don't think he's worth keeping long term.

You are underselling what Brown provides on the court. Basketball is just more than stats. It's the same reason why people value Smart so much despite his poor shooting.

Even Bill Russell only averaged 15 PPG in his entire NBA career.

We only have so much lottery pick to replace Brown. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We wouldn't get Brown or Tatum without lottery picks in the first place. And there's no guarantee that MEM pick will hit lottery.

I'm not underselling Brown.

Brown and Rozier had their chance to prove that they have All-Star potential in Game 7 against the Cavs in 2018.

But what did Brown and Rozier do in that Game 7 against Lebron?


Both Brown and Rozier failed to rise to the occasion.

Last season Smart was injured for most of the playoffs.
Brown played poorly against the Pacers and played well against the Bucks.
I just don't see Brown becoming a superstar in the NBA.
Maybe a very good role player, but not a star player.

That's why I'm not sold on Brown for the long term.

But Jaylen Brown will have his chance to prove me wrong this coming season.

If Brown plays well and the Celts keep winning games then I'll gladly admit I was wrong about Brown.

Until that happens, I still believe the Celts are better off having a guy like Bradley Beal at SG.
1. Search their stat lines in game 6 when they were the only ones who showed up to nip the series in the bud.
2. He played reasonably well in that Bucks series. Sure he laid an egg in the first two games when it came to scoring, but his defense on Bogdanovic was fantastic, and he scored well to close out the series in games 3 and 4.
Your assessment of him being a very good role player is reasonable though, although I see him already at that level with much more room for growth. We'll see when the season starts.

Agree.

If Brown's scoring increases now that Kyrie's gone, I don't think there's a need to trade him and Smart.

I just need to see Brown raising his level of play.

If Tatum is part of the 12-man roster of Team USA and Brown is not, that proves that Tatum is better than Brown at this point in time.

Geez, your dislike of Jaylen is more than apparent. There's no need to be concerned over which one is better when they can just hold on to both. Hayward is the guy who needs to prove he is worth keeping if anyone.

It's not the dislike of Brown, it's wanting an upgrade.

This debate about Jaylen Brown will be settled once and for all this coming season.

It's similar to Jeff Green's situation a few years ago.
Jeff Green had so much talent but he could never turn into an All-Star.

Maybe Jaylen Brown will turn into an All-Star or maybe Jaylen will end up like Jeff Green.
Right now it's all speculation because unlike Jamal Murray and Buddy Hield, Jaylen Brown has yet to live up to the expectations of a former #3 pick.
And Jaylen has only one season left to prove he's worth keeping.

If by year 4 Jaylen still has not made a huge improvement then he's really more of a Jeff Green.

Hahaha the mod literally just posted that this is a Terrance Clarke post yet you haven’t discussed him once...if you have a Brown talking point make a specific post on him.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2019, 07:06:01 PM »

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Terrance Clarke is a perfect example of why Jaylen Brown is not as valuable as some Celtic fans think.

Every year there's always an elite 6-6 or 6-7 guard entering the draft.

If Jaylen Brown proves me wrong this coming season, I'll gladly admit that I was wrong about Brown.
But if Brown just puts up 14 to 16 points per game, I don't think he's worth keeping long term.

You are underselling what Brown provides on the court. Basketball is just more than stats. It's the same reason why people value Smart so much despite his poor shooting.

Even Bill Russell only averaged 15 PPG in his entire NBA career.

We only have so much lottery pick to replace Brown. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We wouldn't get Brown or Tatum without lottery picks in the first place. And there's no guarantee that MEM pick will hit lottery.

I'm not underselling Brown.

Brown and Rozier had their chance to prove that they have All-Star potential in Game 7 against the Cavs in 2018.

But what did Brown and Rozier do in that Game 7 against Lebron?


Both Brown and Rozier failed to rise to the occasion.

Last season Smart was injured for most of the playoffs.
Brown played poorly against the Pacers and played well against the Bucks.
I just don't see Brown becoming a superstar in the NBA.
Maybe a very good role player, but not a star player.

That's why I'm not sold on Brown for the long term.

But Jaylen Brown will have his chance to prove me wrong this coming season.

If Brown plays well and the Celts keep winning games then I'll gladly admit I was wrong about Brown.

Until that happens, I still believe the Celts are better off having a guy like Bradley Beal at SG.
1. Search their stat lines in game 6 when they were the only ones who showed up to nip the series in the bud.
2. He played reasonably well in that Bucks series. Sure he laid an egg in the first two games when it came to scoring, but his defense on Bogdanovic was fantastic, and he scored well to close out the series in games 3 and 4.
Your assessment of him being a very good role player is reasonable though, although I see him already at that level with much more room for growth. We'll see when the season starts.

Agree.

If Brown's scoring increases now that Kyrie's gone, I don't think there's a need to trade him and Smart.

I just need to see Brown raising his level of play.

If Tatum is part of the 12-man roster of Team USA and Brown is not, that proves that Tatum is better than Brown at this point in time.

Geez, your dislike of Jaylen is more than apparent. There's no need to be concerned over which one is better when they can just hold on to both. Hayward is the guy who needs to prove he is worth keeping if anyone.

It's not the dislike of Brown, it's wanting an upgrade.

This debate about Jaylen Brown will be settled once and for all this coming season.

It's similar to Jeff Green's situation a few years ago.
Jeff Green had so much talent but he could never turn into an All-Star.

Maybe Jaylen Brown will turn into an All-Star or maybe Jaylen will end up like Jeff Green.
Right now it's all speculation because unlike Jamal Murray and Buddy Hield, Jaylen Brown has yet to live up to the expectations of a former #3 pick.
And Jaylen has only one season left to prove he's worth keeping.

If by year 4 Jaylen still has not made a huge improvement then he's really more of a Jeff Green.

Hahaha the mod literally just posted that this is a Terrance Clarke post yet you haven’t discussed him once...if you have a Brown talking point make a specific post on him.

Understood.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2019, 07:10:18 PM »

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Here's the 2021 mock draft.

https://www.nbadraft.net/2021mock_draft

Terrance Clarke is the 7th pick in the 2021 mock draft by nbadraft.net.

If the Celts end up getting the unprotected 2021 pick from Memphis, Celts will get a chance to draft Terrance Clarke.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2019, 07:16:51 PM »

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I don't follow high school kids but I find it hard to believe Clarke would be the best Boston prospect ever. There is this guy called Patrick Ewing that played at Cambridge Rindge & Latin. I think he might have that title locked up for a very long time.

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2019, 07:30:16 PM »

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My question is would the Celts still draft Terrance Clarke with their Memphis pick in 2021 if the Celts still had Jaylen and Langford?

Re: Terrance Clarke - Boston's greatest NBA Prospect?
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2019, 07:39:29 PM »

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This thread was hijacked and even after being warned a poster tried to do it again. So it has been locked. If someone wants to discuss Clarke, please start a new thread.