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Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2019, 11:35:54 PM »

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The only move I really disagreed with was signing Jabari Bird, and I doubt any of the floated options would have made a difference.

Now, I would have gotten in on Kawhi, because you get very few chances to land MVP level players.  But, there was a ton of risk.

I'll admit, I didn't think Kawhi was going to be this good. In fact, during the summer when all the Kawhi trade rumors were circulating, I thought it be a great idea to stay away from him because of his injury history and how he quit on his Spurs teammates.

Now the question that needs to be asked is, does he continue to play this well next season after he gets his max contract?

Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2019, 11:35:59 PM »

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based on what was and wasn't done this past year, it's become clear the intent was to have as many assets as possible to use in a trade for AD and possibly someone else.
you know what might have actually helped acquire Davis and fix some issues trading Morris and Rozier for better fitting pieces that were signed past this summer.

You know what else might have helped the team and had no bearing on assets needed for Davis. Using the MLE.  Heck he probably could have used the MLE in a way that added non guaranteed money for next year making it even easier to acquire Davis.

The simple truth is Ainge threw away the season.  He did nothing at all. I'd have rather had him do something and fail then nothing at all.

Edit. And what is really aggravating is the team is still paying the luxury tax. At least if it wasn't a tax team I could understand not using the mle if it would have made the team a tax team, but that just wasn't the case

Yeah, I'll give you the MLE thing. Pretty baffling that he didn't at least use that to booster the team. Hell, we could've had Kanter with that money, who is starting for the very competitive Blazers right now and killing with his inside game and rebounding.
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Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2019, 11:44:05 PM »

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You don’t often win a championship because of what you did in the free agency period of the current season.

Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2019, 11:45:53 PM »

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based on what was and wasn't done this past year, it's become clear the intent was to have as many assets as possible to use in a trade for AD and possibly someone else.
you know what might have actually helped acquire Davis and fix some issues trading Morris and Rozier for better fitting pieces that were signed past this summer.

You know what else might have helped the team and had no bearing on assets needed for Davis. Using the MLE.  Heck he probably could have used the MLE in a way that added non guaranteed money for next year making it even easier to acquire Davis.

The simple truth is Ainge threw away the season.  He did nothing at all. I'd have rather had him do something and fail then nothing at all.

Edit. And what is really aggravating is the team is still paying the luxury tax. At least if it wasn't a tax team I could understand not using the mle if it would have made the team a tax team, but that just wasn't the case

Yeah, I'll give you the MLE thing. Pretty baffling that he didn't at least use that to booster the team. Hell, we could've had Kanter with that money, who is starting for the very competitive Blazers right now and killing with his inside game and rebounding.

To be fair, I went to an event that Kanter spoke at soon after being signed by the Blazers, and he said he wanted to go to a team where he could play significant minutes. He claimed the Blazers were the only team that promised him that.

Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2019, 05:54:52 AM »

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based on what was and wasn't done this past year, it's become clear the intent was to have as many assets as possible to use in a trade for AD and possibly someone else.
you know what might have actually helped acquire Davis and fix some issues trading Morris and Rozier for better fitting pieces that were signed past this summer.

You know what else might have helped the team and had no bearing on assets needed for Davis. Using the MLE.  Heck he probably could have used the MLE in a way that added non guaranteed money for next year making it even easier to acquire Davis.

The simple truth is Ainge threw away the season.  He did nothing at all. I'd have rather had him do something and fail then nothing at all.

Edit. And what is really aggravating is the team is still paying the luxury tax. At least if it wasn't a tax team I could understand not using the mle if it would have made the team a tax team, but that just wasn't the case

Yeah, I'll give you the MLE thing. Pretty baffling that he didn't at least use that to booster the team. Hell, we could've had Kanter with that money, who is starting for the very competitive Blazers right now and killing with his inside game and rebounding.

To be fair, I went to an event that Kanter spoke at soon after being signed by the Blazers, and he said he wanted to go to a team where he could play significant minutes. He claimed the Blazers were the only team that promised him that.
which is strange since he was getting less than 20 mpg before Nurkic went down. I can't believe the C's wouldn't have given him that
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Re: Celtics moves since July 1, 2018
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2019, 06:20:04 AM »

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based on what was and wasn't done this past year, it's become clear the intent was to have as many assets as possible to use in a trade for AD and possibly someone else.
you know what might have actually helped acquire Davis and fix some issues trading Morris and Rozier for better fitting pieces that were signed past this summer.

You know what else might have helped the team and had no bearing on assets needed for Davis. Using the MLE.  Heck he probably could have used the MLE in a way that added non guaranteed money for next year making it even easier to acquire Davis.

The simple truth is Ainge threw away the season.  He did nothing at all. I'd have rather had him do something and fail then nothing at all.

No, he didn't. This is  an insane take to me. Could he have used the MLE and/or traded Rozier or Morris? Sure. He probably should have, but neither was saving THIS season. Those are both longer term plays. Short of magically altering the CBA to allow us to trade for Davis there wasn't much Ainge could do this year.

Except trade for Kawhi. thats the what if.
There were clear problems in the lockerroom and with the fit of all the players.  It was clear that Ainge should have done something at the deadline.  If nothing else, just do a salary dump and remove a cancer from the lockerroom (and I'm not saying that should have been the route to take, but it would have been something).  Rozier, and Morris to a lesser extent, were a problem on this team.  The team would have been better off without them and with players that fit better into the roles that were needed (a real back-up PG and another actual big man).  Ainge could have moved both in a trade, picked up an extra salary this summer, and dropped below the luxury tax also serving the long term needs of the team. 

Every other team still playing in the Eastern Conference made significant moves and additions.  The Raptors added a MVP level player.  The Sixers added 2 all star level players to their starting lineup.  Even the Bucks completely revamped their bench and those players all by and large had tremendous series against the C's.  Heck the Pacers made a bunch of moves this summer as well and if Oladipo doesn't go down, Boston might very well lost in the 1st round (being the 5 seed and playing a better team). 

I can give Ainge a bit of a pass in the summer given the return of Irving and Hayward, but at the trade deadline it was completely and utterly unacceptable for the team to not to do anything. 
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