Poll: Frustrated Cs fan poll; Does Jayson Tatum remind you of Andrew Wiggins?

[nickagneta]

Jason Tatum? Who is this Jason Tatum? 😋😄

Okay I gotta go fix that!

[SHAQATTACK]

not at all.

Watching VA Tech play duke amoung othe times i ve watched VA Tech ,  every time i see Kerry Blackshear Jr play ,  i think of Tatum or poor mans Tatum .   He is very cool mover at 6 10 .   

i hope DA gives him a look if he comes out .

[blink]

I think Tatum is a better overall player than Wiggins.  Tatum is a better passer, and has a better bbiq.  But Wiggins is a much better athlete.  Tatum is quick, but he isn't fast, and that hurts him when he doesn't give 100% on def.  I know Tatum can play better def than he has this year, because we saw it last year.  Jayson just needs to get back to being an all around player.  We all know he is a knock down shooter. 

I personally wish we had Tatum running off screens more often ala Reggie Miller. 

[IDreamCeltics]

I think Tatum has just been utilized incorrectly. 

In his first season his shooting percentages were .475/.434/.82 .  That's Klay Thompson/Ray Allen/ Bradley Beal like.   He's also built a lot like those guys.  I get that he's an inch or two taller, but he's built like a cross country runner...  Why he's not running people around screens and being fed shots off the move is beyond me.  His iso game is above average, but why would you make one of the best pure shooters the team has ever had essentially a static target for his defenders?  Why not wear them down? 

So no, he doesn't remind me or Andrew Wiggins - at all.  Except that I thought Wiggins would be an all-NBA level defender with the right coach and I think coaching is all that's keeping Tatum from being one of the NBA's best shooters.

Probably because those type of shots are generally harder than the ones he's already taken, and he's only hitting 36% of those right now? I think Tatum's a good shooter, but he's not some generational or even elite one. The 43% from his first year was bolstered by taking only about 3 per game (as opposed to the elite shooters who are up above 6 or 7), and hitting an unsustainable clip from the corners.

Welp... here's the comparison of Tatum's shooting during his first two years to Ray Allen's first two years.

                             Age     2p%  3p%  3PA
Ray Allen
96-97                     21     .448  .393    3.6
97-98                     22     .453  .364    4.5

Jayson Tatum
17-18                     19    .492   .434    3.0
18-19                     20    .487   .369    4.5

The kid's a generational talent...

[rondofan1255]

Wiggins reminds me of Jeff Green

(Jeff Green comparisons on CB are inevitable  )

[gpap]

There was a good article in today's Boston Herald where Pierce is talking about Tatum.

He mentions Tatum needs to take more steps to the basket. It may be obvious to some, but Tatum tends to wander outside the perimeter. I think gaining some insight from no. 34 would really help Tatum. Especially considering how you can see at least some similarities between the two.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/03/30/paul-pierce-has-an-offer-jayson-tatum-celtics-cant-refuse/

I think attacking the basket more often has also really helped improve Jaylen's game.

[LilRip]

Wiggins? Not at all

Tatum is probably closer to Melo. A ball stopper with a penchant and talent for making tough shots.

Another comparison I think is adequate? Harrison Barnes. Deadly catch and shoot player. Loves iso 2’s ever since he went to Dallas. Generally a ball stopper.

Another player? Joe Johnson without the court vision (yet).

[pearljammer10]

I seem no comparison between Tatum and Wiggins.

Tatum has been frustrating this year but lets not get crazy.

[JBcat]

I think this year I have really started to see where the Carmelo comparisons have come from.  While not as alarming as a Wiggins trajectory, I’m not sure I would want to hitch my wagon to Carmelo 2.0 for the next several years.  Melo is a hall of fame, but there are a lot empty calories in there.

The thing is Melo was much more of a power player, probably a better rebounder, and less of a 3 point shooter.

What do people think of a Rudy Gay comparison (at least right now)? Similar build and similar smoothness to scoring.  Gay had several seasons scoring around 20 PPG, but underwhelmed in other parts of his game.  I hope he ends up better than that though.

I think Wiggins is little bit different than Tatum.

[GreenWarrior]

wiggins is jeff green. tatum doesn't get the ball enough to get any comparison to another player.

[Roy H.]

I think Tatum has just been utilized incorrectly. 

In his first season his shooting percentages were .475/.434/.82 .  That's Klay Thompson/Ray Allen/ Bradley Beal like.   He's also built a lot like those guys.  I get that he's an inch or two taller, but he's built like a cross country runner...  Why he's not running people around screens and being fed shots off the move is beyond me.  His iso game is above average, but why would you make one of the best pure shooters the team has ever had essentially a static target for his defenders?  Why not wear them down? 

So no, he doesn't remind me or Andrew Wiggins - at all.  Except that I thought Wiggins would be an all-NBA level defender with the right coach and I think coaching is all that's keeping Tatum from being one of the NBA's best shooters.

Probably because those type of shots are generally harder than the ones he's already taken, and he's only hitting 36% of those right now? I think Tatum's a good shooter, but he's not some generational or even elite one. The 43% from his first year was bolstered by taking only about 3 per game (as opposed to the elite shooters who are up above 6 or 7), and hitting an unsustainable clip from the corners.

Welp... here's the comparison of Tatum's shooting during his first two years to Ray Allen's first two years.

                             Age     2p%  3p%  3PA
Ray Allen
96-97                     21     .448  .393    3.6
97-98                     22     .453  .364    4.5

Jayson Tatum
17-18                     19    .492   .434    3.0
18-19                     20    .487   .369    4.5

The kid's a generational talent...

Do you know how many rookies have shot at least 39% on 3PTs (2.0+ attempts per game) in just the past four seasons?

19 rookies.  Just since 2016. “Generational” is a stretch.

[Phantom255x]

No, Tatum's better and just needs more shot attempts (and a bigger role on offense) IMHO.

That said, his defense has looked atrocious the last few months and just going by the last few months, I could honestly see the Carmelo Anthony comparisons a bit more than the Pierce/PG13/KD kinds.

[nickagneta]

wiggins is jeff green. tatum doesn't get the ball enough to get any comparison to another player.

Jayson takes 13.1 shots a game with a usage percentage of 22%. That's after taking over 10 shots a game last year with a usage percentage of 19%. That's 155 games. And let's not forget his 19 playoff games where he took 13.7 shots and had a usage of 23.7%.

He is not only taking plenty of shots and had the ball in his hands enough to make comparisons, but his shots and usage are increasing.

[IDreamCeltics]

I think Tatum has just been utilized incorrectly. 

In his first season his shooting percentages were .475/.434/.82 .  That's Klay Thompson/Ray Allen/ Bradley Beal like.   He's also built a lot like those guys.  I get that he's an inch or two taller, but he's built like a cross country runner...  Why he's not running people around screens and being fed shots off the move is beyond me.  His iso game is above average, but why would you make one of the best pure shooters the team has ever had essentially a static target for his defenders?  Why not wear them down? 

So no, he doesn't remind me or Andrew Wiggins - at all.  Except that I thought Wiggins would be an all-NBA level defender with the right coach and I think coaching is all that's keeping Tatum from being one of the NBA's best shooters.

Probably because those type of shots are generally harder than the ones he's already taken, and he's only hitting 36% of those right now? I think Tatum's a good shooter, but he's not some generational or even elite one. The 43% from his first year was bolstered by taking only about 3 per game (as opposed to the elite shooters who are up above 6 or 7), and hitting an unsustainable clip from the corners.

Welp... here's the comparison of Tatum's shooting during his first two years to Ray Allen's first two years.

                             Age     2p%  3p%  3PA
Ray Allen
96-97                     21     .448  .393    3.6
97-98                     22     .453  .364    4.5

Jayson Tatum
17-18                     19    .492   .434    3.0
18-19                     20    .487   .369    4.5

The kid's a generational talent...

Do you know how many rookies have shot at least 39% on 3PTs (2.0+ attempts per game) in just the past four seasons?

19 rookies.  Just since 2016. “Generational” is a stretch.

Ahhh yes, but how many rookies have shot .43+ from 3 in the last four years on 2+ attempts?

Ohhhh… I'll save you the time, just one.  Tatum... But I'm guessing you already knew that since you carefully cherry-picked the parameters of your post.

But do you also know the last Rookie to shoot .43+ from 3 on 2+ attempts?... Steph Curry in 2009.

I stand by my claim that he's a generational talent, but please, don't let facts get in the way of your arguement.  

[PhoSita]

Not at all.