Aron Baynes

[Chris22]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

[indeedproceed]

Obligatory Rozier plug. Loved that Rozier stepped to Boogie.

[Humble G]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

I'm confused....are you being serious or joking?

Kyrie 6' 3" is same height as Curry who has won multiple championships.

Tony Parker is 6'2" and won multiple championships and Finals MVP
Billups was 6'3" and was Finals MVP
Dwayne wade is only 6'4" and was won championships too and was Finals MVP.........

[apc]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

I'm confused....are you being serious or joking?

Kyrie 6' 3" is same height as Curry who has won multiple championships.

Tony Parker is 6'2" and won multiple championships and Finals MVP
Billups was 6'3" and was Finals MVP
Dwayne wade is only 6'4" and was won championships too and was Finals MVP.........

He was being sarcastic.

[Big333223]

Obligatory Rozier plug. Loved that Rozier stepped to Boogie.

Yep. I'm not a big Rozier fan but he got in there. Showed toughness.

[Rosco917]

He's not a star, nor does he have jaw-dropping skills, but when it comes to giving an injection of much-needed size, bulk, and toughness at key times in a game, he fits the bill.

Horford against certain centers allows too much penetration around the rim. He just doesn't carry enough weight and size to stop them. With Morris, Tatum, and company hanging around the 3 point line most of the game, and for the money Baynes is a nice fit.

Please just stay healthy!

[otherdave]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

Getting back to the OP's point...

Yes he is a valuable component to the team.  His paint protection and overall toughness were sorely missed both times he was out with injury.  His three point ability is just icing on the cake.

Although he only plays 12 to 18 minutes a game (and you probably would not want him playing too much more than that) his presence really impacts games.

[Chris22]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

Check the list of MVPs for the finals. There are very, very few small guards.

Small guards don't win championships.

http://www.espn.com/nba/history/awards/_/id/43

[footey]

Baynes' return is huge.

As big as all Australia!

[Moranis]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

Check the list of MVPs for the finals. There are very, very few small guards.

Small guards don't win championships.

http://www.espn.com/nba/history/awards/_/id/43

From Magic's last appearance until Parker's last 2 there was something like only 5 seasons in which either PG on the two Finals teams was an all star in that season.  I'm going off of memory, but it is something like Payton, Stockton, Kidd twice, Parker (the 07 team), and maybe another season.  Obviously Curry and to a lesser extent Irving and Parker have skewed that a bit more recently, but there was nearly a decade between Kidd's final appearance and the Spurs rebirth in which Parker's 1 season was the only all star appearance by either PG on the last 2 teams standing.  And the thing about Parker and Irving is they were clearly not their team's best player.  Frankly, in the history of the game only Curry, Thomas, and Magic have been the best player on a title team as a PG.  If you just go 6'5" or bigger you eliminate all the Magic titles and probably add in Dennis Johnson, but that is it. 

And I don't really think that is going to change.  The Warriors are a weird basically not duplicable situation and frankly for the last 2 titles Durant has been their best player (though Curry is arguably their most important player).   So in basically the history of the league there have been 4 title teams where the best player on the winner was under 6'5" the 79 Sonics, the 89 and 90 Pistons, and the 14 Warriors. 

[philr13]

So in basically the history of the league there have been 4 title teams where the best player on the winner was under 6'5"

True.

I would point out though that the style of play and the rules of the league evolve over time. The smallest player on a roster can now be primarily a scorer and play off the ball a lot. In the past, smaller players were primarily play-makers.

Things change. I believe that until Jordon won his first championship, no team with the winner of that season's scoring title had ever won a championship. It was always assumed that a team with one guy taking that many shots was probably a bad team. Rule changes and expansion changed all that.

[Chris22]

So in basically the history of the league there have been 4 title teams where the best player on the winner was under 6'5"

True.

I would point out though that the style of play and the rules of the league evolve over time. The smallest player on a roster can now be primarily a scorer and play off the ball a lot. In the past, smaller players were primarily play-makers.

Things change. I believe that until Jordon won his first championship, no team with the winner of that season's scoring title had ever won a championship. It was always assumed that a team with one guy taking that many shots was probably a bad team. Rule changes and expansion changed all that.

In the last 28 years there have only been two point guards that were finals MVP. The last one was in 2007. Size matters.

[Humble G]

Aron Baynes took Cousins out of the game last night.

We need Baynes to win a championship.

YEAH BUT SMALL GUARDS NEVER WIN TITLES!

signed,

6' 1" isiah thomas

6' 2" vinnie johnson,

kyrie and on and on and on

Check the list of MVPs for the finals. There are very, very few small guards.

Small guards don't win championships.

http://www.espn.com/nba/history/awards/_/id/43

From Magic's last appearance until Parker's last 2 there was something like only 5 seasons in which either PG on the two Finals teams was an all star in that season.  I'm going off of memory, but it is something like Payton, Stockton, Kidd twice, Parker (the 07 team), and maybe another season.  Obviously Curry and to a lesser extent Irving and Parker have skewed that a bit more recently, but there was nearly a decade between Kidd's final appearance and the Spurs rebirth in which Parker's 1 season was the only all star appearance by either PG on the last 2 teams standing.  And the thing about Parker and Irving is they were clearly not their team's best player.  Frankly, in the history of the game only Curry, Thomas, and Magic have been the best player on a title team as a PG.  If you just go 6'5" or bigger you eliminate all the Magic titles and probably add in Dennis Johnson, but that is it. 

And I don't really think that is going to change.  The Warriors are a weird basically not duplicable situation and frankly for the last 2 titles Durant has been their best player (though Curry is arguably their most important player).   So in basically the history of the league there have been 4 title teams where the best player on the winner was under 6'5" the 79 Sonics, the 89 and 90 Pistons, and the 14 Warriors.

2006 Heat with Dwayne Wade
2004 Billups was prly the best player
and 2007 Parker is close to best at that time duncan 1a Parker 1b....no parker prly no championship

[Roy H.]

So, how about Aron Baynes, huh?