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Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2019, 02:37:08 PM »

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All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #61 on: March 04, 2019, 02:40:23 PM »

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All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #62 on: March 04, 2019, 02:51:10 PM »

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LOL

All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Well it sounds like you think its everyone else BUT Kyrie. I have definitive proof things are more cohesive and harmonious when he's not playing or pouting...do you?

Give me a break you can see the body language of him. You can't tell the way guys start playing harder, cutting harder, passing, rebounding because they know he won't dribble the air out the ball until he gets jammed up and then pass.

Again, I'll wait for your reason why we're underacheiving.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #63 on: March 04, 2019, 02:52:58 PM »

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Anyone see the reports about Kyrie isolating himself from the team?  If that's the case then Danny and Brad need to reach some common ground on the situation.  I would sit Kyrie down and give him an ultimatum.  If he's unwilling to be a functional "teammate" then I would dismiss him for the rest of the season.  The other guys deserve an opportunity to play with teammates who will try to play for each other. 


Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #64 on: March 04, 2019, 03:05:31 PM »

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Anyone see the reports about Kyrie isolating himself from the team?  If that's the case then Danny and Brad need to reach some common ground on the situation.  I would sit Kyrie down and give him an ultimatum.  If he's unwilling to be a functional "teammate" then I would dismiss him for the rest of the season.  The other guys deserve an opportunity to play with teammates who will try to play for each other.


That KOC piece makes it seem like Kyrie is already checked out.
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Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #65 on: March 04, 2019, 03:11:45 PM »

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All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Well it sounds like you think its everyone else BUT Kyrie. I have definitive proof things are more cohesive and harmonious when he's not playing or pouting...do you?

Give me a break you can see the body language of him. You can't tell the way guys start playing harder, cutting harder, passing, rebounding because they know he won't dribble the air out the ball until he gets jammed up and then pass.

Again, I'll wait for your reason why we're underacheiving.

I notice you conveniently leave out how poorly the rest of the team played yesterday (Tatum, Baynes, Rozier, etc.)


Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2019, 03:14:20 PM »

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Anyone see the reports about Kyrie isolating himself from the team?  If that's the case then Danny and Brad need to reach some common ground on the situation.  I would sit Kyrie down and give him an ultimatum.  If he's unwilling to be a functional "teammate" then I would dismiss him for the rest of the season.  The other guys deserve an opportunity to play with teammates who will try to play for each other.


That KOC piece makes it seem like Kyrie is already checked out.

He's been slowly unraveling for the past 2 or 3 months.  Do you remember an early press conference where Kyrie scored single digits in a big win?  I think it was against the Pistons and he said that his mantra for the season was to "be chill".  At that time it seemed like he was trying to embrace the process of becoming a great teammate.

I honestly believe that Irving is full of self doubt and he's projecting it on the media.  This would also explain why he's isolating himself from teammates.  Irving knows he's not capable of leading but he's afraid to admit failure.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2019, 03:14:36 PM »

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Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2019, 03:21:50 PM »

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LOL

All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Well it sounds like you think its everyone else BUT Kyrie. I have definitive proof things are more cohesive and harmonious when he's not playing or pouting...do you?

Give me a break you can see the body language of him. You can't tell the way guys start playing harder, cutting harder, passing, rebounding because they know he won't dribble the air out the ball until he gets jammed up and then pass.

Again, I'll wait for your reason why we're underacheiving.

I notice you conveniently leave out how poorly the rest of the team played yesterday (Tatum, Baynes, Rozier, etc.)

Again, that hadn't been the norm. Don't pick one game and make it seem like that's norm. The entire season has been up and down...oops except when #11 plays.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2019, 03:23:28 PM »

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Anyone see the reports about Kyrie isolating himself from the team?  If that's the case then Danny and Brad need to reach some common ground on the situation.  I would sit Kyrie down and give him an ultimatum.  If he's unwilling to be a functional "teammate" then I would dismiss him for the rest of the season.  The other guys deserve an opportunity to play with teammates who will try to play for each other.

I agree. I already said Ainge needs to just tell him privately they are going in a different direction. This way they can play him judiciously or sit him whenever they feel negative energy. I bet his pouty attitude changes.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2019, 03:26:34 PM »

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Anyone see the reports about Kyrie isolating himself from the team?  If that's the case then Danny and Brad need to reach some common ground on the situation.  I would sit Kyrie down and give him an ultimatum.  If he's unwilling to be a functional "teammate" then I would dismiss him for the rest of the season.  The other guys deserve an opportunity to play with teammates who will try to play for each other.

I agree. I already said Ainge needs to just tell him privately they are going in a different direction. This way they can play him judiciously or sit him whenever they feel negative energy. I bet his pouty attitude changes.

Someone definitely needs to challenge him in a private setting.  Kyrie wont admit fault or failure on his own.  Maybe Ainge can pull this out of him by getting straight to the point.  Downplaying the situation and coddling him wont accomplish anything.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2019, 03:29:00 PM »

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LOL

All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Well it sounds like you think its everyone else BUT Kyrie. I have definitive proof things are more cohesive and harmonious when he's not playing or pouting...do you?

Give me a break you can see the body language of him. You can't tell the way guys start playing harder, cutting harder, passing, rebounding because they know he won't dribble the air out the ball until he gets jammed up and then pass.

Again, I'll wait for your reason why we're underacheiving.

I notice you conveniently leave out how poorly the rest of the team played yesterday (Tatum, Baynes, Rozier, etc.)

Again, that hadn't been the norm. Don't pick one game and make it seem like that's norm. The entire season has been up and down...oops except when #11 plays.
It is hilarious that you seem to put the blame solely at Kyrie’s feet.

Not Mook or Terry clearly playing for their next contract.
Not Tatum being incapable of playing good defence.
Not Brown’s inconsistent effort.
Not our injuries to Baynes and Horford.
Not the questionable decisions made by Coach Stevens.
Not the obvious impact of the AD trade rumours.
Not Hayward coming along slowly.

No, it’s all Kyrie’s fault.

I also adore how you ignore all the times we, as a team, have played excellently with Kyrie. It’s like you’re pretending we’re a sub .500 team. Give me a break. Stop letting your bias lead you to these weird conclusions.

This isn’t to say Kyrie has been perfect - far from it. But he’s not alone in that imperfection.
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Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2019, 03:31:21 PM »

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Ultimately one or the other will have to go.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2019, 03:39:59 PM »

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LOL

All you 'I want Kyrie gone, he's the problem' folks are about the dumbest basketball fans I have ever encountered. You should just go find a different team to root for.

Ok bball genius tell us why it's important or do or die for the success of the Celtics to sign Kyrie? What proof tells you he's got to stay?

I'll wait.....

Why should I bother, you clearly wouldn't understand anyways.

The fact you think Kyrie is the problem proves that.

Well it sounds like you think its everyone else BUT Kyrie. I have definitive proof things are more cohesive and harmonious when he's not playing or pouting...do you?

Give me a break you can see the body language of him. You can't tell the way guys start playing harder, cutting harder, passing, rebounding because they know he won't dribble the air out the ball until he gets jammed up and then pass.

Again, I'll wait for your reason why we're underacheiving.

I notice you conveniently leave out how poorly the rest of the team played yesterday (Tatum, Baynes, Rozier, etc.)

Again, that hadn't been the norm. Don't pick one game and make it seem like that's norm. The entire season has been up and down...oops except when #11 plays.
It is hilarious that you seem to put the blame solely at Kyrie’s feet.

Not Mook or Terry clearly playing for their next contract.
Not Tatum being incapable of playing good defence.
Not Brown’s inconsistent effort.
Not our injuries to Baynes and Horford.
Not the questionable decisions made by Coach Stevens.
Not the obvious impact of the AD trade rumours.
Not Hayward coming along slowly.

No, it’s all Kyrie’s fault.

I also adore how you ignore all the times we, as a team, have played excellently with Kyrie. It’s like you’re pretending we’re a sub .500 team. Give me a break. Stop letting your bias lead you to these weird conclusions.

This isn’t to say Kyrie has been perfect - far from it. But he’s not alone in that imperfection.
Again, for the 10th time. This is suppose to be his team...he wanted to be the leader. Why blame all the role players when they've played great when he has been out. Do you understand what that means. Take Freak off the Bucks are they winning? What did the Lakers do without Bron? Can the Raptors go into Philly and win without Kawhi? I'm not even going to get in being 5 mins away from the Finals.

I bet had they made the Finals some of you would still be saying yeah but we got swept as an excuse. Sure there are certain games when certain players don't play well..what team doesn't go through that. His sulking attitude and distancing shows on the court.

Re: Can Kyrie Irving and Coach Brad Stevens co-exist?
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2019, 03:49:43 PM »

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If Kyrie is going to play and be excited about playing and be professional fine. To tell fans, forget the regular season let's get to the playoffs is BS. People pay money to see him play and the team perform. What will it be if they go down 3-1...then it will be I'm leaving. He's trying to run from being the man. He wanted to be the man, but he needs to realize these guys got a taste of 1st class last year without him. They aren't going back to coach. So it's up to him to understand their position and stop trying to son them. They accomplished something without him so it's up to him to get in line, not them. Does he feel pressure or doesn't feel like anyone listens...probably. He wanted all of this, that's why he left Bron.