Celtics (37-22) at Raptors (44-17) Game #61 2/26/19

[liam]

I know no one will agree with me but the real blame here lies with Ainge, for him not moving Rozier.  He should have sold high in the summer, but at the very least it was obvious that he needed to be moved at the deadline.  Addition by subtraction.

You cannot tell me that some team was not looking for him.  Why do we think he is necessary for this team's future.

Rozier 13 minutes and 0 assists.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Love how the coach gets blamed for 15% 3pt shooting

Well there is your problem. Use your coaching ability and tell your players to stop shooting 3's and go finish at the rim or take closer shots.

LOL at the "stop shooting" coaching method, like the other team is just going to let you get layups.

you send everybody in and try to draw fouls ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE IN THE BONUS like we were last year game 7. remember that? uh huh but we kept thrpwing brix

[liam]

I know Brad has been far from perfect this year, but these guys are PROFESSIONALS.  These players are ultimately responsible for their play and whatever happens.  Until our guys start to refuse to accept these types of games they will continue to happen. 

No. I don't see why people don't get this. This is the coach's responsibility, probably the primary one. He is supposed to manage the talent on the team, keep them motivated and on track, and ensure that we are playing as a team.

I seriously struggle to grasp what the defenders of Brad think the role of an NBA coach is, because he's failing at virtually every responsibility at this point, which has been on full display the last 7 quarters with the team devolving into a bunch of individuals that are half-arsing the game out there.

Look I said Brad hasn't been blameless.  But when you are getting pounded by 30 + points by a rival in a showcase game, that is not all on Brad.

That 2nd quarter was a major turning point in this game and Brad could've done more to stem the tide. They went on a 26-5 run and he didn't call a timeout, stuck with the same 5 that wasnt working and basically let the meltdown happen.

You're right. He could get a tech, pull the starters, do something....

[droopdog7]

I know Brad has been far from perfect this year, but these guys are PROFESSIONALS.  These players are ultimately responsible for their play and whatever happens.  Until our guys start to refuse to accept these types of games they will continue to happen. 

No. I don't see why people don't get this. This is the coach's responsibility, probably the primary one. He is supposed to manage the talent on the team, keep them motivated and on track, and ensure that we are playing as a team.

I seriously struggle to grasp what the defenders of Brad think the role of an NBA coach is, because he's failing at virtually every responsibility at this point, which has been on full display the last 7 quarters with the team devolving into a bunch of individuals that are half-arsing the game out there.

Look I said Brad hasn't been blameless.  But when you are getting pounded by 30 + points by a rival in a showcase game, that is not all on Brad.

That 2nd quarter was a major turning point in this game and Brad could've done more to stem the tide. They went on a 26-5 run and he didn't call a timeout, stuck with the same 5 that wasnt working and basically let the meltdown happen.

He eventually called a TO and they continued to get up pounded because they couldn’t score.  Not calling a TO is a philosophical decision and hardly something to criticize a coach on.

[Ogaju]

Love how the coach gets blamed for 15% 3pt shooting

Well there is your problem. Use your coaching ability and tell your players to stop shooting 3's and go finish at the rim or take closer shots.

LOL at the "stop shooting" coaching method, like the other team is just going to let you get layups.

they are not letting you shoot three either so you go for the high  percentage shots and maybe some fouls  in the process.

[jpotter33]

We're just missing wide open 3's.  3 for 17 from 3. 

same BS we saw in game 7 last year

THEN ADJUST!

coaches are fired all over the sports world because it all lies at their feet at the end of the day.

that is a fact whether we want to accept it or not.

They need a different coach. I've beaten this horse so much it's almost glue, but the dude can't coach the team through adversity.

it all lies at his feet. i am at wits end with brad. i cannot argue with you on that.  he is seeming to be the common denominator.

I don’t see that.  This mess is first and foremost a player issue.  Pieces simply do not fit.

No, the players are manageable. They just need the proper direction and guidance. Brad not clarifying roles from Day 1 and being unable to even motivate the team to play with energy is a pretty significant indictment on his ability to coach this team.

We're legitimately looking at a first round exit as the 5 seed at this point, as these players clearly don't trust each other or play as a team.

Yeah, we’re not going to agree here.  This is a players league.  No spot up shooter on the entire roster.  Almost all of them need to push the ball to score.  No great shooter.  No specialist.

Pieces just don’t fit.  This really can’t be argued against.

I mean, it can, because this virtually identical team made it work last year with the only real difference being the addition of the jack-of-all-trades Hayward, which clearly shouldn't throw off the fit this much.

The main difference is the motivation and overall character of this team from last year. The pieces fit fine from a basketball perspective - it's the character/personality perspective where the team does not fit, which is something that can be managed by better coaching, such as the coach actually clarifying roles and taking a more authoritative approach with making sure the team is disciplined.

[Phantom255x]

0-3 since the break and facing Portland tomorrow night. Oh boy...

[CelticsElite]

Lol


This is getting ugly fast

[jpotter33]

I know Brad has been far from perfect this year, but these guys are PROFESSIONALS.  These players are ultimately responsible for their play and whatever happens.  Until our guys start to refuse to accept these types of games they will continue to happen. 

No. I don't see why people don't get this. This is the coach's responsibility, probably the primary one. He is supposed to manage the talent on the team, keep them motivated and on track, and ensure that we are playing as a team.

I seriously struggle to grasp what the defenders of Brad think the role of an NBA coach is, because he's failing at virtually every responsibility at this point, which has been on full display the last 7 quarters with the team devolving into a bunch of individuals that are half-arsing the game out there.

Look I said Brad hasn't been blameless.  But when you are getting pounded by 30 + points by a rival in a showcase game, that is not all on Brad.

That 2nd quarter was a major turning point in this game and Brad could've done more to stem the tide. They went on a 26-5 run and he didn't call a timeout, stuck with the same 5 that wasnt working and basically let the meltdown happen.

TP. And the thing is that this is a constant issue with Brad, among other things, so it's not like this is just a single game occurrence. He has literally been making these mistakes and failing the team all year long.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

blow it up, danny.

he needs to be on the phone with coaches.  if brad causes kyrie to walk........................

[Q_FBE]

blow it up, danny.

Trade Kyrie to NOP for Jrue Holiday and their #1???

Trade Marcus Smart to Sacremento for Buddy Hield?

Trade Jayson and Jaylen to Detroit for Blake Griffen?

Fire Brad Stevens and trade Terry Rozier to the Clippers for Doc Rivers?

Ship Gordon Hayward back to Utah for Jae Crowder?

[Atzar]

IMHO coaching is not the issue with this team. 

Fit, yes.  Heart, sometimes.  But I also think this team just isn't as good right now as fans want to believe.  We needed Tatum to take the next step and he hasn't.  We needed Jaylen to take the next step and he hasn't.  We needed Hayward to return to form and he hasn't.  We needed this bench to be a major positive factor for us and it isn't. 

The positive thing is that time is on our side.  The world doesn't end in June.  Sometimes teams don't come together immediately.  Sometimes they don't come together at all.  But it's far too early to give up on anybody. 

[Phantom255x]

I think literally at this point our best hope is the 4 seed with the hope that one of IND/PHI also falter down the road. Otherwise we're basically penciled as the 5 seed. No shot at 2 seed and 3 seed slipping away fast.

[jpotter33]

Lol just got here.  What I miss?

epic meltdown by team and the forum game thread had to go timeout to restore order. Too bad the mods here have more nad than the Cs coach.

That, my good sir, gets you a well-deserved TP.

[liam]

Lowry in there crying about an obvious foul in a blow out....