Excellent video X's and O's breakdown on what's wrong with the C's

[mmmmm]

Notable how two of their best defenders, Smart and Brown, each had a defensive mistake in this where each immediately owned it right after the play.

They each had a couple of others but they didn't show enough time after the other clips to tell if either acknowledged those.

A lot of different Cs got their name flagged by this, but Morris' name was called out waaaaay too many times in this for him to be complaining after the game.

Some of the latter plays on offense, multiple guys looked almost in a daze, not doing anything right.   Clearly their minds were on the sweeping change to the scoreboard and not on the play in front of them by that point.

[Fan from VT]

Rozier did not come off well at all. Neither did Morris.

One take away I had was not only Hayward's mistakes, but that he looked SLLOOOOWW sometimes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq-ug9Z55bU

I'm sure some opinions on who's the blame will shift.

Enjoy.

thanks for posting the video.  Outstanding breakdown of our breakdowns.
I wonder how long the film session for the C's was after this game?

[BigHam]

I felt like I was watching an Oliver Stone film. Morris needs to be back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back...and to the left.

Worth the watch.

[KGBirdBias]

We can stay away from Stevens being accountable all we want too, but this was a colossal failure in coaching and teaching in the moment.

Why not substitute, make the correction in front of the team or call timeout and fix it to slow down a major run. All these glaring hustling mistakes and he let it ride. No one wants to be shown up so the effort would've improved.

I expect major effort tonight. If they win, Kyrie needs to start looking at himself as well. Big game tonight

[ozgod]

I'm about 10 mins in, and this is really fascinating stuff.

Anybody who might be intimidated by the length (29 mins) or the overall demeanor of the scout, I'd suggest watching it at 1.5 speed at least.  Makes it so much smoother.

How do you watch it at 1.5 speed?

EDIT: Nevermind I found it

This is the type of stuff I try to watch when I'm watching the game, what's going on off the ball. That's where you see the real problems.

[footey]

Thanks, Eddie, for posting.

Some of the analysis is helpful. Mostly in pointing out that we don't do a good job on help defense.  The best stuff is pointing out poor fundamentals in defensive stance when guarding one on one. A lot of finger pointing, rather than taking the initiative to cover the open man.  I feel that the defensive system itself has flaws in it, inasmuch as it is not clear who has responsibility to cover someone who gets loose in a pick and role. Often these things are so spontaneous, you just need to do it yourself and not worry about who is responsible to rotate in the system.

I also don't agree entirely with his criticism of Terry going for a steal. Certainly if he ends up causing a 5-4 break, that should not happen. But I think this team plays its best when its defense is aggressive, and the 3 guys who do this best are Rozier, Smart and Brown.  If we lose that identity were are doomed to lose early in the playoffs.

[RodyTur10]

I'm about 10 mins in, and this is really fascinating stuff.

Anybody who might be intimidated by the length (29 mins) or the overall demeanor of the scout, I'd suggest watching it at 1.5 speed at least.  Makes it so much smoother.

How do you watch it at 1.5 speed?

EDIT: Nevermind I found it

This is the type of stuff I try to watch when I'm watching the game, what's going on off the ball. That's where you see the real problems.

When I watch the game live I often miss that off-ball stuff, especially the defensive errors, because when I watch the Celtics I'm too busy rooting for them to be able to objectively watch the game. Sometimes I look at the score and don't understand why they're not up more points   .

[Who]

Guy was too slow making his points. I couldn't get through that.

Looked good if not for the over-talking.

[droopdog7]

We can stay away from Stevens being accountable all we want too, but this was a colossal failure in coaching and teaching in the moment.

Why not substitute, make the correction in front of the team or call timeout and fix it to slow down a major run. All these glaring hustling mistakes and he let it ride. No one wants to be shown up so the effort would've improved.

I expect major effort tonight. If they win, Kyrie needs to start looking at himself as well. Big game tonight

I had a coach who micromanaged the game like this.  It was a catasphtorphe.  I can only imagine how this approach would work in the NBA.

[jambr380]

Guy was too slow making his points. I couldn't get through that.

Looked good if not for the over-talking.

Yeah, I watched some of it and the break downs were interesting, but the presentation was brutal.

It is the kind of thing that can help advance ones understanding of the game pretty quickly, though - especially the way the game is played today. Many of us haven't played organized basketball (like high school or college, not rec leagues) for years.

[nickagneta]

We can stay away from Stevens being accountable all we want too, but this was a colossal failure in coaching and teaching in the moment.

Why not substitute, make the correction in front of the team or call timeout and fix it to slow down a major run. All these glaring hustling mistakes and he let it ride. No one wants to be shown up so the effort would've improved.

I expect major effort tonight. If they win, Kyrie needs to start looking at himself as well. Big game tonight

I had a coach who micromanaged the game like this.  It was a catasphtorphe.  I can only imagine how this approach would work in the NBA.

Yeah, about the farthest along you will see a coaching style like that working is NCAA basketball. In the NBA, you are just going to lose your locker room in a snap if you treat the players like that during games.

[Csfan1984]

I used to break down every game play 3 or 4x writing down notes to bring up in other forums, this was before I came to celticsstrong/blog, I didn't feel it was worth my time once we got to the new big three era. I try not to go back to it for better sanity.

[ozgod]

We can stay away from Stevens being accountable all we want too, but this was a colossal failure in coaching and teaching in the moment.

Why not substitute, make the correction in front of the team or call timeout and fix it to slow down a major run. All these glaring hustling mistakes and he let it ride. No one wants to be shown up so the effort would've improved.

I expect major effort tonight. If they win, Kyrie needs to start looking at himself as well. Big game tonight

I had a coach who micromanaged the game like this.  It was a catasphtorphe.  I can only imagine how this approach would work in the NBA.

Yeah, about the farthest along you will see a coaching style like that working is NCAA basketball. In the NBA, you are just going to lose your locker room in a snap if you treat the players like that during games.

I think part of it is the cost of learning - the players have to learn to get stops, to deal with runs, because maybe there will be times when there's no timeout available. In the short term it might cost a game or two because they can't figure it out but in the long term you develop players who are better able to cope with adversity rather than relying on their coach to bail them out all the time.

[Fafnir]

We can stay away from Stevens being accountable all we want too, but this was a colossal failure in coaching and teaching in the moment.

Why not substitute, make the correction in front of the team or call timeout and fix it to slow down a major run. All these glaring hustling mistakes and he let it ride. No one wants to be shown up so the effort would've improved.

I expect major effort tonight. If they win, Kyrie needs to start looking at himself as well. Big game tonight

I had a coach who micromanaged the game like this.  It was a catasphtorphe.  I can only imagine how this approach would work in the NBA.

Yeah, about the farthest along you will see a coaching style like that working is NCAA basketball. In the NBA, you are just going to lose your locker room in a snap if you treat the players like that during games.

One of the biggest compliments players have given Stevens is that he clearly and straight-forwardly communications his expectations.

Zach Lowe has cited Shane Larkin as an example multiple times. He pulled him from the game after he didn't hustle for a loose ball and said if you're not going to get that ball I'm not going to play you. (paraphrasing)

Now that's a lot easier with a fringe of the league guy like Larkin, but other bigger name players have said similar things. Its not an easy problem, the success of last year and flux of this roster has unsettled the chemistry in a way the team did not .