A Way To Keep Jayson Tatum

[Fierce1]

What if the Pels want to get rid of Jrue Holiday and his remaining 79m for 3 more seasons?

Pels can package AD and Holiday to the Celts for a Celtic package not including Jayson Tatum.

Reason why the Pels would want to get rid of Holiday is it's not practical paying Holiday around 26m per year when the team will be in the top 3 or top 5 of the lottery for years to come.

If that's the case then Ainge can counter by agreeing to take back Holiday as long as the Pels don't ask for Jayson Tatum.

[jambr380]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

[Fierce1]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

Hayward doesn't have to be in the deal.

Celts just need to package Horford, Brown, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Bird.
Those 6 players will total 48.3m.

[RJ87]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

Hayward doesn't have to be in the deal.

Celts just need to package Horford, Brown, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Bird.
Those 6 players will total 48.3m.

Al would opt out before he gets traded to NOLA.

[Fierce1]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

Hayward doesn't have to be in the deal.

Celts just need to package Horford, Brown, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Bird.
Those 6 players will total 48.3m.

Al would opt out before he gets traded to NOLA.

The thing is the deadline for opting out is usually June 29 or June 30.

Only way the AD to Boston deal happens is on or after July 1.
So Horford really has no way of knowing if he's included in the package or not.

I don't think Horford will walk away from 30m.
That's just too much money for him to pass.

No other team will give Horford that kind of money at his age.

[keevsnick]

What if the Pels want to get rid of Jrue Holiday and his remaining 79m for 3 more seasons?

Pels can package AD and Holiday to the Celts for a Celtic package not including Jayson Tatum.

Reason why the Pels would want to get rid of Holiday is it's not practical paying Holiday around 26m per year when the team will be in the top 3 or top 5 of the lottery for years to come.

If that's the case then Ainge can counter by agreeing to take back Holiday as long as the Pels don't ask for Jayson Tatum.

It absolutely is practical. The NOP books are actually ery clean after next season with Solomon Hill and Etwuan moore coming off the books. Holiday is the only long term salary, and he's not even that awful of a salary. Could be a bordeline all star in the east. He has positive value, they would get soemthing just trading him straight up. Maybe not much, but he's not a salary dump. Hell he would at least help them reach the salary floor that every team has to reach. Lets say for example they took back salary equal to Davis contract, trade Mirotic or just dont reisgn him, Randle doesn't pick up his option (he won't), they would have roughly 80 million is salary against a 2018 cap. Plenty of room to take back bad contracts for assets, sign youg guys, ect. They would then have almost 22 million between Solomon Hill and Moore leaving next offseason. Plenty of space. 

[KGBirdBias]

Horford may opt out of 1/30M to get a multi year deal and 3/15M.

Yes taking back Holiday is a way not to include Tatum and possibly find a 3rd team for Holiday because the Celtics wouldn't need him.

[kiwiceltic]

Horford may opt out of 1/30M to get a multi year deal and 3/15M.

Yes taking back Holiday is a way not to include Tatum and possibly find a 3rd team for Holiday because the Celtics wouldn't need him.

Why not get a team in need of a PG like the Magic involved? Holiday to the Magic for package involving Terrance Ross and  Mosgov plus a sweetner would work salary wise?

[Fierce1]

Horford may opt out of 1/30M to get a multi year deal and 3/15M.

Yes taking back Holiday is a way not to include Tatum and possibly find a 3rd team for Holiday because the Celtics wouldn't need him.

Right now I doubt there's a team willing to give Horford 15m per year for 3 years.

Horford will be 33 years old at the start of next season.

Maybe 10m per year, but not 15m per.

[Irish Stew]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

Hayward doesn't have to be in the deal.

Celts just need to package Horford, Brown, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Bird.
Those 6 players will total 48.3m.

If I'm NO, the only one of those players in that bunch that I really want is Brown. A number of them are marginal rotation players at best. All of this to rid myself of a really nice 28 year old player. Why not add Tatum and Smart to Holiday and give myself at least three solid starters to build around. Holiday/Smart is a first rate defensive backcourt and Tatum has elite potential. We are getting one of the best players in the league. They are going to want quality not quantity.

[Fierce1]

I'm all for keeping Tatum, but $53M is a lot to match. Hayward becomes an absolute necessity and he would have to be re-routed to another team.

The way he is playing now, that doesn't seem likely; but a solid playoff run and his value could grow in a hurry. Still, that would also require trading Hayward, which kind-of feels wrong.

Hayward doesn't have to be in the deal.

Celts just need to package Horford, Brown, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, and Bird.
Those 6 players will total 48.3m.

If I'm NO, the only one of those players in that bunch that I really want is Brown. A number of them are marginal rotation players at best. All of this to rid myself of a really nice 28 year old player. Why not add Tatum and Smart to Holiday and give myself at least three solid starters to build around. Holiday/Smart is a first rate defensive backcourt and Tatum has elite potential. We are getting one of the best players in the league. They are going to want quality not quantity.

Don't forget the Celts will be adding the 2019 Memphis pick that will not convey this year and could potentially be the #1 pick in 2021.

Also, the Celts would most likely give up the 2019 Kings pick.
It's a lottery pick if the Kings don't make the playoffs.

Add those 2 picks with Brown, Horford, and the other players, it's one heck of a haul for the Pels.

My proposal only happens if the Pels don't want to pay Holiday 79m for the next 3 years.
It's practical to want to get rid of Holiday and his 26m per year if the Pels are just going to be a lottery team for a number of years.
I mean why spend 26m per year on Holiday when you're a rebuilding team?

The final trade proposal would be Brown, Horford, Baynes, Yabusele, Ojeleye, Bird, and the picks from Memphis and Sacramento for AD and Holiday.

For a small market team like the Pels, 79m or 26m per year is a lot of money to spend on a player who is not an All-Star.