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Can we S&T Rozier and Morris with Tatum?
« on: January 30, 2019, 07:45:44 PM »

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 I like this package for both teams. Tatum, Rozier, Morris and four firsts for Davis.

 So my question is let's say we took back Anthony Davis and e'twaun Moore that's a combined 34.2 million + salary Tatum makes about seven million per year so if we could structure Morris and Rozier to somewhere around 36 million total would that work?
 

Re: Can we S&T Rozier and Morris with Tatum?
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I'm pretty sure when someone is S&T'd their future salary only counts as half. So, say we signed Terry for $14m/year, his trade value would only be $7m.

That's if I recall correctly, which could definitely not be the case. Need a smart cap guy to confirm
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Re: Can we S&T Rozier and Morris with Tatum?
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I'm pretty sure when someone is S&T'd their future salary only counts as half. So, say we signed Terry for $14m/year, his trade value would only be $7m.

That's if I recall correctly, which could definitely not be the case. Need a smart cap guy to confirm



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Hey KGLL - this response from nick in the game thread is pretty informative:

If a player is going to sign a contract that is more than 20% of what they made the year before or if half of their first year salary is greater than the salary they made before then if they are signed and traded by a team over the cap then the the incoming salary for checking salary to match is their new salary but the outgoing salary is equal to to half of their new salary.

Example trade AD for Tatum, Rozier s&t at $14 million, Yabu and Williams


Pelicans trade Davis at $27.1 million so that is the Pelicans outgoing salary. That means they have to receive in salary from the Celtics a minimum salary of $21.6 million or a Max of $34 million.

So you want to include Rozier as a sign n trade but he is Base Year Compensation eligible so his salary counts as 50% outgoing but 100% incoming.

So your trade is

Tatum at $7.8 million
Rozier at $14 million incoming $7million outgoing.
Williams at $2 million
Yabusele at $3 million.

So as incoming salary the C's are at $26.8 million. They need incoming salary to be within  25%+/-$100k of that number meaning Davis' $27.1 million fits. Trade okay there.

But Rozier's outgoing only counts as $7 million so Boston's total outgoing is $19.8 million. Needing to take on salary that is at most 25% +/- $100k means Boston can take on a max salary of $24.8 million making Davis' $27.1 million way to much so trade not okay here. Trade fails.

If a third team gets involved it might get easier.

I'll say that it doesn't look promising, but as nick states, finding a 3rd team makes it much more manageable.