Report: Celtics Young Players Frustrated with Hayward's Minutes

[Kuberski33]

Just watching the body language on the court, I'm not sensing anything.  The younger guys - Brown especially - seem to be fine playing with him.  Hayward and Jaylen out there together actually works pretty well because Hayward is an above average distributor of the basketball and Jaylen's game is getting up the floor in transition.

Jaylen's losing minutes to Morris and Tatum actually - if he were starting he'd be on one of those spots. I suppose Rozier could have a beef because he's probably losing a few minutes but he's getting plenty of run right now with Kyrie getting so many nights off. 

I'm sure there are quite a few guys on the roster who want more minutes.  Wannamaker probably isn't a fan of sitting most nights and Semi probably feels like he should be getting more time.  It is what it is.

Wanamaker is probably the only one who is happy with what he is getting. He is happy to be on an NBA team.

No doubt the other guys are frustrated.

They also can't afford to sulk and play poorly. It does not mean they are loving the situation.

Actually Wannamaker has been very good in the minutes he's been given - especially lately.  If they were to make a move (granted unlikely) I think they'd be fine moving him into the rotation and getting the type of minutes Rozier gets when he backs up Irving. 

[nickagneta]

Old news and already addressed by the team with Kyrie's comments, Jaylen's comments to Kyrie then Kyrie apologizing. Tatum and Brown have been playing great ball so not sure its affecting them any.

You are not in the locker room. So im supposed to believe you too?

You draw your own conclusions, but its easily possible that problems are happening with ego.

Or not. Believe what you want. Two small comments in an ESPN article saying the youth have been frustrated without giving dates means nothing. Everything about the internal frustrations came out like 2 weeks ago. Since then the team has been playing great basketball, especially the youth. Old news, like I said.

That is in your mind.

When you can imagine and understand how basketball works especially , when you have too many players, too many ego's, a player who sucks but is still getting minutes, you do not need ESPN or anybody to tell you anything. You draw a conclusion that the possibility exists that players want more minutes, players feeling they are not getting enough time or enough value in what they think they are capable. Play into the fact that these players have been successful starting and getting minutes and you can easily draw the conclusion that something is going on, frustration and all that.

so your  "OLD NEWS , LIKE I SAID"  sounds like a child at recess sticking his tongue out.

You can be right , but you can be wrong as well. It's not "what you said".

You best watch your posting. Calling into question other's understanding of basketball or comparing them to a child is very much against the rules.

Doing so to a mod...even worse. If I catch you doing so again to anyone and you will be having a vacation from CelticsStrong.

[ConnerHenry]

Just watching the body language on the court, I'm not sensing anything.  The younger guys - Brown especially - seem to be fine playing with him.  Hayward and Jaylen out there together actually works pretty well because Hayward is an above average distributor of the basketball and Jaylen's game is getting up the floor in transition.

Jaylen's losing minutes to Morris and Tatum actually - if he were starting he'd be on one of those spots. I suppose Rozier could have a beef because he's probably losing a few minutes but he's getting plenty of run right now with Kyrie getting so many nights off. 

I'm sure there are quite a few guys on the roster who want more minutes.  Wannamaker probably isn't a fan of sitting most nights and Semi probably feels like he should be getting more time.  It is what it is.

Wanamaker is probably the only one who is happy with what he is getting. He is happy to be on an NBA team.

No doubt the other guys are frustrated.

They also can't afford to sulk and play poorly. It does not mean they are loving the situation.

Actually Wannamaker has been very good in the minutes he's been given - especially lately.  If they were to make a move (granted unlikely) I think they'd be fine moving him into the rotation and getting the type of minutes Rozier gets when he backs up Irving.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about Wannamaker these last couple games. He looked composed, made some good decisions and hit some shots. Granted, not enough of a sample size, but he's better than I thought

[Chris22]

Hayward was a plus 31 tonight in 24 minutes.

I wish people would stop complaining about him.

[gouki88]

Old news and already addressed by the team with Kyrie's comments, Jaylen's comments to Kyrie then Kyrie apologizing. Tatum and Brown have been playing great ball so not sure its affecting them any.

You are not in the locker room. So im supposed to believe you too?

You draw your own conclusions, but its easily possible that problems are happening with ego.

Or not. Believe what you want. Two small comments in an ESPN article saying the youth have been frustrated without giving dates means nothing. Everything about the internal frustrations came out like 2 weeks ago. Since then the team has been playing great basketball, especially the youth. Old news, like I said.

That is in your mind.

When you can imagine and understand how basketball works especially , when you have too many players, too many ego's, a player who sucks but is still getting minutes, you do not need ESPN or anybody to tell you anything. You draw a conclusion that the possibility exists that players want more minutes, players feeling they are not getting enough time or enough value in what they think they are capable. Play into the fact that these players have been successful starting and getting minutes and you can easily draw the conclusion that something is going on, frustration and all that.

so your  "OLD NEWS , LIKE I SAID"  sounds like a child at recess sticking his tongue out.

You can be right , but you can be wrong as well. It's not "what you said".

You best watch your posting. Calling into question other's understanding of basketball or comparing them to a child is very much against the rules.

Doing so to a mod...even worse. If I catch you doing so again to anyone and you will be having a vacation from CelticsStrong.

Slights and insults like this are probably in 50% of his posts. Surprised action hasn’t been taken already

[celtics4ever33]

Old news and already addressed by the team with Kyrie's comments, Jaylen's comments to Kyrie then Kyrie apologizing. Tatum and Brown have been playing great ball so not sure its affecting them any.

You are not in the locker room. So im supposed to believe you too?

You draw your own conclusions, but its easily possible that problems are happening with ego.

Or not. Believe what you want. Two small comments in an ESPN article saying the youth have been frustrated without giving dates means nothing. Everything about the internal frustrations came out like 2 weeks ago. Since then the team has been playing great basketball, especially the youth. Old news, like I said.

That is in your mind.

When you can imagine and understand how basketball works especially , when you have too many players, too many ego's, a player who sucks but is still getting minutes, you do not need ESPN or anybody to tell you anything. You draw a conclusion that the possibility exists that players want more minutes, players feeling they are not getting enough time or enough value in what they think they are capable. Play into the fact that these players have been successful starting and getting minutes and you can easily draw the conclusion that something is going on, frustration and all that.

so your  "OLD NEWS , LIKE I SAID"  sounds like a child at recess sticking his tongue out.

You can be right , but you can be wrong as well. It's not "what you said".

You best watch your posting. Calling into question other's understanding of basketball or comparing them to a child is very much against the rules.

Doing so to a mod...even worse. If I catch you doing so again to anyone and you will be having a vacation from CelticsStrong.

Slights and insults like this are probably in 50% of his posts. Surprised action hasn’t been taken already

This is hilarious, but I will stop posting the way I do. No more.

BUT I do want to ask the question because it's funny.

Look at my post and I want a fellow poster to also comment on this. What malice did I show in that post? What attack did I make ?
When did I question the basketball knowledge? All I said was , when someone understands how basketball works , its easy to make an opinion that players can get frustrated and not get a long. Everyone thinks these guys love each other, everyone things they go home and have dinner together.

Also when I said the OLD NEWS comment , I want to know how that is anywhere insulting? What did I say wrong? I said its like sticking your tongue out, amazingly its the same thing the sources do, as pure speculation, but for you it's old news and that's that? I don't agree with that and I wrote what i thought it was.


These forums, i don't know. It's like the only bashing you can do or the only intense debate you can do is when a poster can trash a player/coach/source

We can say "Get this piece of trash Rozier out of here, trade him for peanuts"

But we can't even say a simple reply to a poster.

[celtics4ever33]

Old news and already addressed by the team with Kyrie's comments, Jaylen's comments to Kyrie then Kyrie apologizing. Tatum and Brown have been playing great ball so not sure its affecting them any.

You are not in the locker room. So im supposed to believe you too?

You draw your own conclusions, but its easily possible that problems are happening with ego.

Or not. Believe what you want. Two small comments in an ESPN article saying the youth have been frustrated without giving dates means nothing. Everything about the internal frustrations came out like 2 weeks ago. Since then the team has been playing great basketball, especially the youth. Old news, like I said.

That is in your mind.

When you can imagine and understand how basketball works especially , when you have too many players, too many ego's, a player who sucks but is still getting minutes, you do not need ESPN or anybody to tell you anything. You draw a conclusion that the possibility exists that players want more minutes, players feeling they are not getting enough time or enough value in what they think they are capable. Play into the fact that these players have been successful starting and getting minutes and you can easily draw the conclusion that something is going on, frustration and all that.

so your  "OLD NEWS , LIKE I SAID"  sounds like a child at recess sticking his tongue out.

You can be right , but you can be wrong as well. It's not "what you said".

You best watch your posting. Calling into question other's understanding of basketball or comparing them to a child is very much against the rules.

Doing so to a mod...even worse. If I catch you doing so again to anyone and you will be having a vacation from CelticsStrong.

Slights and insults like this are probably in 50% of his posts. Surprised action hasn’t been taken already

Gouki you are hilarious. Looking through your posts one can say you insinuate somebody not knowing anything about basketball too.

Its hilarious, your replies are always involving sarcasm and or pointing to how dumb someone might be for saying an opinion.

See no further than your replies to people about Kyrie.

Hypocrite views,

Oh and you have called people hypocrite before...I wonder if that warrants a vacation.

[nickagneta]

Old news and already addressed by the team with Kyrie's comments, Jaylen's comments to Kyrie then Kyrie apologizing. Tatum and Brown have been playing great ball so not sure its affecting them any.

You are not in the locker room. So im supposed to believe you too?

You draw your own conclusions, but its easily possible that problems are happening with ego.

Or not. Believe what you want. Two small comments in an ESPN article saying the youth have been frustrated without giving dates means nothing. Everything about the internal frustrations came out like 2 weeks ago. Since then the team has been playing great basketball, especially the youth. Old news, like I said.

That is in your mind.

When you can imagine and understand how basketball works especially , when you have too many players, too many ego's, a player who sucks but is still getting minutes, you do not need ESPN or anybody to tell you anything. You draw a conclusion that the possibility exists that players want more minutes, players feeling they are not getting enough time or enough value in what they think they are capable. Play into the fact that these players have been successful starting and getting minutes and you can easily draw the conclusion that something is going on, frustration and all that.

so your  "OLD NEWS , LIKE I SAID"  sounds like a child at recess sticking his tongue out.

You can be right , but you can be wrong as well. It's not "what you said".

You best watch your posting. Calling into question other's understanding of basketball or comparing them to a child is very much against the rules.

Doing so to a mod...even worse. If I catch you doing so again to anyone and you will be having a vacation from CelticsStrong.

Slights and insults like this are probably in 50% of his posts. Surprised action hasn’t been taken already

This is hilarious, but I will stop posting the way I do. No more.

BUT I do want to ask the question because it's funny.

Look at my post and I want a fellow poster to also comment on this. What malice did I show in that post? What attack did I make ?
When did I question the basketball knowledge? All I said was , when someone understands how basketball works , its easy to make an opinion that players can get frustrated and not get a long. Everyone thinks these guys love each other, everyone things they go home and have dinner together.

Also when I said the OLD NEWS comment , I want to know how that is anywhere insulting? What did I say wrong? I said its like sticking your tongue out, amazingly its the same thing the sources do, as pure speculation, but for you it's old news and that's that? I don't agree with that and I wrote what i thought it was.


These forums, i don't know. It's like the only bashing you can do or the only intense debate you can do is when a poster can trash a player/coach/source

We can say "Get this piece of trash Rozier out of here, trade him for peanuts"

But we can't even say a simple reply to a poster.

<sigh>