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Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« on: January 27, 2019, 01:15:56 PM »

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Woj says the Celtics are not considering any trades right now, they want to see if this team, as is, can get out of the East and they're not going to make a move before Anthony Davis potentially becomes available.

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Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2019, 01:29:20 PM »

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I always feel this team looks toward the future too much.

*When we sign Horford

*When we get Kyrie and Hayward

*When Hayward gets healthy

**When we trade for AD

I'm patient and I'm trying to see the big picture.  But it kinda feels like this too.

Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 01:32:56 PM »

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I always feel this team looks toward the future too much.

*When we sign Horford

*When we get Kyrie and Hayward

*When Hayward gets healthy

**When we trade for AD

I'm patient and I'm trying to see the big picture.  But it kinda feels like this too.



You can be the Wizards if that’s what you want.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 01:40:17 PM »

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I always feel this team looks toward the future too much.

*When we sign Horford

*When we get Kyrie and Hayward

*When Hayward gets healthy

**When we trade for AD

I'm patient and I'm trying to see the big picture.  But it kinda feels like this too.



You can be the Wizards if that’s what you want.

No, I dont want Dwight Howard. AD would be amazing and worth the wait. 

But what is plan B?

Everyone seems to be getting better around us (Toronto,  Philadelphia,  Milwaukee). It has me nervous. 
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 01:41:17 PM »

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I always feel this team looks toward the future too much.

*When we sign Horford

*When we get Kyrie and Hayward

*When Hayward gets healthy

**When we trade for AD

I'm patient and I'm trying to see the big picture.  But it kinda feels like this too.


In a league with the Golden State Warriors, it's wise to be patient.  Nobody is beating a healthy Warriors team in a 7 game series.

Also, given that the 2nd best player on the team is younger than Robert Williams, it makes sense to have an eye towards the future.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 01:43:44 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 01:43:47 PM »

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As currently constructed this team is good enough to make it out the East.

I would favor them above everyone, but the Warriors.

Our problems this season have nothing to do with lack of talent.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 01:44:54 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2019, 01:51:25 PM »

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As currently constructed this team is good enough to make it out the East.

I would favor them above everyone, but the Warriors.

Our problems this season have nothing to do with lack of talent.

Agreed. This is hands down the best team in the East.

I don't care about standings or seedings for the playoffs. Boston is the best team in the East. I feel great about this team's chances of making the Finals and possibly winning a Championship.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 01:51:52 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

I guess it all depends on how badly Danny wants Anthony Davis. I agree with your point. However, the problem with trading in the summer time is if the Celts deal their draft picks to New Orleans, they have to wait 2 months after July 1st to make the trade official right? (sorta like when the Cavs deal for Kevin Love had to wait 2 months 'til after they traded Andrew Wiggins)

What if another team jumps in and the Pelicans don't want to wait? And could Danny pull off an Anthony Davis trade without dealing Jayson Tatum (instead a package of Brown, Robert Williams, picks and Horford's contract for filler)

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2019, 01:53:20 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

I guess it all depends on how badly Danny wants Anthony Davis? I agree with your point. However, the problem with trading in the summer time is if the Celts deal their draft picks to New Orleans, they have to wait 2 months after July 1st to make the trade official right? (sorta like when the Cavs deal for Kevin Love had to wait 2 months 'til after they traded Andrew Wiggins)

What if another team jumps in and the Pelicans don't want to wait?
It's a hairy situation indeed, but you can assume there would be some "wink wink" under the table deal before we use the draft picks.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2019, 01:53:33 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

And New Orleans isn't dealing AD before the deadline. They're going to offer him the supermax this offseason and he'll likely reject it. Then, they're going to open a bidding war and take the best offer - as they should. Even if he asks for a trade now, they're under no obligation to hear offers until the offseason when multiple teams can get into the mix.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2019, 01:55:42 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

I guess it all depends on how badly Danny wants Anthony Davis. I agree with your point. However, the problem with trading in the summer time is if the Celts deal their draft picks to New Orleans, they have to wait 2 months after July 1st to make the trade official right? (sorta like when the Cavs deal for Kevin Love had to wait 2 months 'til after they traded Andrew Wiggins)

What if another team jumps in and the Pelicans don't want to wait? And could Danny pull off an Anthony Davis trade without dealing Jayson Tatum (instead a package of Brown, Robert Williams, picks and Horford's contract for filler)

They only have to wait the 2 months if they sign the players to rookie deals. Draft rights are immediately tradeable.
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Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2019, 01:57:46 PM »

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I always feel this team looks toward the future too much.

*When we sign Horford

*When we get Kyrie and Hayward

*When Hayward gets healthy

**When we trade for AD

I'm patient and I'm trying to see the big picture.  But it kinda feels like this too.



You're having trouble seeing that big picture? We're the most talented team in the East, have three youngsters that should be starting on any other team, a once in a lifetime generational point guard, and potentially for first round picks in this draft.

I just don't get it.

Re: Woj: AD Only Trade Celtics Are Thinking About
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2019, 01:58:57 PM »

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I responded to a fan about this last week saying that the I think the Celts would wait until this summer to re-sign Kyrie before going for AD.

But he made a good point. If we wait, what if the Lakers (or another team) beat us to the punch?

Could the trade deadline be the perfect time for the Celts to get Davis by just dealing them this year's draft picks and they can draft whomever they choose? And would Danny then deal Kyrie to accommodate a Davis trade as I know the Celts (by NBA's stupid rules) can't have Kyrie and Davis simultaneously this season?
Because being a 1 star team built around Davis is that much better than being a 1 star team built around Kyrie?

You realize the celtics are on a 50 win pace and the PElicans are below .500 right?

It doesn't make sense, because you'd get a garbage return for Kyrie.  Just gotta wait until Summer and see what happens.

I guess it all depends on how badly Danny wants Anthony Davis. I agree with your point. However, the problem with trading in the summer time is if the Celts deal their draft picks to New Orleans, they have to wait 2 months after July 1st to make the trade official right? (sorta like when the Cavs deal for Kevin Love had to wait 2 months 'til after they traded Andrew Wiggins)

What if another team jumps in and the Pelicans don't want to wait? And could Danny pull off an Anthony Davis trade without dealing Jayson Tatum (instead a package of Brown, Robert Williams, picks and Horford's contract for filler)

They only have to wait the 2 months if they sign the players to rookie deals. Draft rights are immediately tradeable.

When is the deadline to sign a draft pick to a rookie deal? Because we can't trade for Davis until after July 1st when Kyrie becomes a free agent which we would then immediately resign him to a super max. In other words, if we waited until after July 1st, could we still trade the draft rights to our picks without having to sign the picks to rookie deals? Because if so, then Ainge definitely goes that route. I didn't realize what you pointed out. Thanks!

I guess then the only issue would be how do we know that the Pelicans will like the players we select with our draft picks?