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Tough decision Brad should consider
« on: January 27, 2019, 12:26:45 AM »

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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.

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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 12:39:38 AM »

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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.
Yeah, no.  I think browns playmaking is dreadful.  I’m okay with him being an energy player but that’s about it.

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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.

That's a big improvement opportunity for Jaylen - being able to learn how to drive and kick. Right now he has one gear and it goes straight ahead. If he can develop that vision to attract two defenders and hit an open man on the perimeter it adds another facet to his game. But right now I don't think he's there yet.
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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.
He played well tonight, but his lack of court vision was on full display. Especially bad when a fast break starts and the ball is in his hand. Hayward was open for an easy dunk and he got ignored
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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.
He played well tonight, but his lack of court vision was on full display. Especially bad when a fast break starts and the ball is in his hand. Hayward was open for an easy dunk and he got ignored
You mean open for an easy layup miss lol, dude missed some real bunnies that he could've dunked it home tonight. Hope he and Jaylen get better though.
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Rozier played decent tonight, although he was primarily the reason for curry's outburst in the 2nd quarter.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 01:10:54 AM »

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Rozier played decent tonight, although he was primarily the reason for curry's outburst in the 2nd quarter.

What game? 2pts (came in the 4th lol), 3rbs and zeros across the board in everything else. Yes, the pg of the 2nd unit had zero assists, no steal and not 1 foul to make some1 know he was there. I know what you will say, "box score stats" but my eyes aren't proof and that's all I have left.

I still don't agree with this thread, my comment is purely about yours.
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2019, 01:19:29 AM »

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I wouldn’t mind Rozier playing less. Put Wanamaker in there with Hayward and Brown and let’s see what happens!

Not a fan of Wanamaker but at least the guy takes his shots when it’s there, plays solid defense, and looks to get others involved.
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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.

That's a big improvement opportunity for Jaylen - being able to learn how to drive and kick. Right now he has one gear and it goes straight ahead. If he can develop that vision to attract two defenders and hit an open man on the perimeter it adds another facet to his game. But right now I don't think he's there yet.
Yeah, you can see him hesitate before passing it once he sees he is closed off at the rim. He is finding the right guy more and more but not before slowing down a bunch, slowing down the possession. But then you see that once or twice a game or so where he makes that right pass without the hesitation and it helps the offense score and run well.

Jaylen is still maybe 2-3 years away from being a pnr playmaker, but I think he will be a much better overall passer within the flow of the offense and creating for others, especially off the drive, as soon as this playoff season and definitely next year.

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I wouldn’t mind Rozier playing less. Put Wanamaker in there with Hayward and Brown and let’s see what happens!

Not a fan of Wanamaker but at least the guy takes his shots when it’s there, plays solid defense, and looks to get others involved.
Agree. Wanamaker is far better at picking his spots, and tries to pass the ball a lot. I'd cut Rozier's minutes significantly. Too bad it'd hurt his trade stock
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I wouldn’t mind Rozier playing less. Put Wanamaker in there with Hayward and Brown and let’s see what happens!

Not a fan of Wanamaker but at least the guy takes his shots when it’s there, plays solid defense, and looks to get others involved.
Agree. Wanamaker is far better at picking his spots, and tries to pass the ball a lot. I'd cut Rozier's minutes significantly. Too bad it'd hurt his trade stock

Idk why DA would be willing to stand pat at the deadline. But if he is, then 100% he’s losing Rozier to free agency.

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I wouldn’t mind Rozier playing less. Put Wanamaker in there with Hayward and Brown and let’s see what happens!

Not a fan of Wanamaker but at least the guy takes his shots when it’s there, plays solid defense, and looks to get others involved.
Agree. Wanamaker is far better at picking his spots, and tries to pass the ball a lot. I'd cut Rozier's minutes significantly. Too bad it'd hurt his trade stock
I’m not worried about his trade value.  Let him walk for nothing after the year, assuming someone signs him.

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2019, 01:39:16 AM »

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I wouldn’t mind Rozier playing less. Put Wanamaker in there with Hayward and Brown and let’s see what happens!

Not a fan of Wanamaker but at least the guy takes his shots when it’s there, plays solid defense, and looks to get others involved.
Agree. Wanamaker is far better at picking his spots, and tries to pass the ball a lot. I'd cut Rozier's minutes significantly. Too bad it'd hurt his trade stock
I’m not worried about his trade value.  Let him walk for nothing after the year, assuming someone signs him.
If only that could happen sooner! I reckon he could average ok numbers as a starter somewhere, like 14-5-5 on a losing team. But he's not a starter on any good team
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Taking rozier out of the lineup entirely.  Unless he’s pounding the ball being a volume shooter, he hurts the team.  He’s a big part of why Hayward hasn’t been able to contribute because he’s a really bad facilitator, forcing Hayward on the ball rather than concentrating on being a scorer.  Add brown, another really bad playmaker and how in the world is anyone else on the second unit supposed to get into a groove?

Now brown can still contribute but rozier badly needs to go.


I think we should give Brown more play making responsibilities. At least he can get into the paint. I don't think his passing is as bad as some people think.

That's a big improvement opportunity for Jaylen - being able to learn how to drive and kick. Right now he has one gear and it goes straight ahead. If he can develop that vision to attract two defenders and hit an open man on the perimeter it adds another facet to his game. But right now I don't think he's there yet.
Yeah, you can see him hesitate before passing it once he sees he is closed off at the rim. He is finding the right guy more and more but not before slowing down a bunch, slowing down the possession. But then you see that once or twice a game or so where he makes that right pass without the hesitation and it helps the offense score and run well.

Jaylen is still maybe 2-3 years away from being a pnr playmaker, but I think he will be a much better overall passer within the flow of the offense and creating for others, especially off the drive, as soon as this playoff season and definitely next year.

We expect a lot of him (and Jayson) because he raised the bar on us last year, but I have to keep remembering they're only 20 and 21. They've got so much time to improve.
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