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Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« on: January 24, 2019, 09:24:25 AM »

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Just a few thoughts.


My assumptions are that the

 Grizz finish top 8 and keep their pick (this is a good thing)

 Kings will finish in the lotto in the 10-14 range

 Clippers will finish in the 15-20 range

Cetlics will finish 23-28

Players I like at the 10-20 range (per tankathon mock)
 D'Andre Hunter big wing Virginia, he is fare and away the player I want in this draft outside of the top 4.
 KZ Okpala wing Stanford, long perimeter player who despite being 6''8-6'9 with a +7' wingspan has guard skillset due to late growth spurt
 Nickeil Alexander-Walker wing Virginia, well rounded guard
Players I like in late 1st
 Shamorie Ponds guard St Johns, i'm high on him as a future 2nd unit lead guard/bench spark plug
 Jontay Porter Big Missouri, if injury pushes him to late 1st he could be a great pick as the rare big who fits the Horford mold on offense

2nd round guys I think will be good NBA players

Admiral Schofield
Grant Williams
Carsen Edwards


Players I want to make a point of watching

Aric Holman Big for Mississippi State
Chalres Basset Big Western Kentucky
 
 

 
     

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 03:09:26 PM »

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1   Z Williamson
   
2   J Morant
2   RJ Barrett
   
3   C Reddish
3   D Hunter
   
4   D Garland
4   J Hayes
4   J Culver
4   Bol Bol
   
5   N Little
5   R Langford
5   K Johnson
5   N Alexander-Walker
5   S Doumbouya
5   J Porter
5   R Hachimura
5   B Clarke

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 03:14:20 PM »

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I think your yearly excellent work on the Celtics draft will all be for nothing this year. I see Ainge moving this year's picks for Davis.

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 03:15:09 PM »

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Thanks for post...TP

Draft analysis will be interesting to see which players emerge from NCAA tourney.

Barring big trades, a point guard and or PF of some sort would be ok.

I wonder who Stevens likes in draft?

Subtract  Rozier - Mook next year

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 03:40:41 PM »

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I think your yearly excellent work on the Celtics draft will all be for nothing this year. I see Ainge moving this year's picks for Davis.

I hope so, and thus I hope the Pels like prospects in the teens in this draft, especially with Memphis on a roll now.
Give us this pick, Almighty Red
And forgive us our tanking
As we forgive those who tanked against us
And lead us not into the lottery
But deliver us from losing

-Sexyscottish

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2019, 03:42:55 PM »

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Thanks for post...TP

Draft analysis will be interesting to see which players emerge from NCAA tourney.

Barring big trades, a point guard and or PF of some sort would be ok.

I wonder who Stevens likes in draft?

Subtract  Rozier - Mook next year

Thanks


As Nickagenta said above a lot could change if the Cs make the move for AD.

Aside from the AD situation I think this will be a tough draft for the Cs to really fill roster needs. Most likely the Cs loose either Irving or Rozier this off-season and Morris is not likely to be resigned. The Morris void will likely be filled be filled by giving Semi more minutes. As for point guards since last year I have been a S Ponds fan. His size makes it tough to see him starting for a good team but I really like him in a backup role.

Another player I'm really high on and think could prove to be a late 1st early 2nd steal is Dylan Windler. I recently wrote a post about him. 

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2019, 04:14:02 PM »

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Thanks for post...TP

Draft analysis will be interesting to see which players emerge from NCAA tourney.

Barring big trades, a point guard and or PF of some sort would be ok.

I wonder who Stevens likes in draft?

Subtract  Rozier - Mook next year

Thanks


As Nickagenta said above a lot could change if the Cs make the move for AD.

Aside from the AD situation I think this will be a tough draft for the Cs to really fill roster needs. Most likely the Cs loose either Irving or Rozier this off-season and Morris is not likely to be resigned. The Morris void will likely be filled be filled by giving Semi more minutes. As for point guards since last year I have been a S Ponds fan. His size makes it tough to see him starting for a good team but I really like him in a backup role.

Another player I'm really high on and think could prove to be a late 1st early 2nd steal is Dylan Windler. I recently wrote a post about him. 
I highly doubt Kyrie leaves.  I'm anticipating Rozier and Morris will leave.  quite possibly Theis too.  this is regardless of a trade for AD or not.

if we get AD, I think all of this year's picks are included in the deal as well as Williams.  probably Smart too.

that's a lot of holes to fill for next year without any draft picks to use in the process.

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2019, 04:54:14 PM »

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Sorry for the offtopic but 20 years ago Mr and ms Schofield found a good idea to call their son Admiral? Seriously?

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2019, 04:53:22 PM »

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Sorry for the offtopic but 20 years ago Mr and ms Schofield found a good idea to call their son Admiral? Seriously?


yes and he seems like a player DA would like.

To compare him to a current Celtic and exceltic

Semi, Jae Crowder and Schofield are all about the same size 6'5"-6'6' around 240lbs with around 6'9" wingspans

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=admiral-schofield--jae-crowder--semi-ojeleye

per 36 stats

Scofield  19pts 7rb 2.3ast 5.4 3PA .49% from 3

Crowder  19pts   9rb 2.3ast 5.5 3PA .34% from 3

Ojeleye   20pt    7rb  1.6ast 5.2 3PA .42% from 3

Seems like a safe bet that Schofield checks alot of the boxes DA looks for in a player.

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2019, 05:29:43 PM »

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Thanks for post...TP

Draft analysis will be interesting to see which players emerge from NCAA tourney.

Barring big trades, a point guard and or PF of some sort would be ok.

I wonder who Stevens likes in draft?

Subtract  Rozier - Mook next year

Thanks


As Nickagenta said above a lot could change if the Cs make the move for AD.

Aside from the AD situation I think this will be a tough draft for the Cs to really fill roster needs. Most likely the Cs loose either Irving or Rozier this off-season and Morris is not likely to be resigned. The Morris void will likely be filled be filled by giving Semi more minutes. As for point guards since last year I have been a S Ponds fan. His size makes it tough to see him starting for a good team but I really like him in a backup role.

Another player I'm really high on and think could prove to be a late 1st early 2nd steal is Dylan Windler. I recently wrote a post about him. 
I highly doubt Kyrie leaves.  I'm anticipating Rozier and Morris will leave.  quite possibly Theis too.  this is regardless of a trade for AD or not.

if we get AD, I think all of this year's picks are included in the deal as well as Williams.  probably Smart too.

that's a lot of holes to fill for next year without any draft picks to use in the process.

Even if say Morris, Theis, Rozier, and Irving all come back we currently have an open spot, and another one easily by not re-signing Wanamaker.  So if all else fails and we run it back, we can stash a pick or 2 overseas or a small consolidation trade, and maybe keep 2 rookies on the roster.   

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2019, 05:02:34 PM »

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Having caught up with a lot more prospect during the tournament the following is my updated tiers

Tier   Player
1   Z Williamson
   
2   J Morant
2   RJ Barrett
   
3   J Culver
3   C Reddish
3   D Hunter
3   D Garland
   
4   J Hayes
4   Bol Bol * medicals are huge for him
4   B Clarke
4   N Little
4   S Doumbouya
4   KZ Okpala
4   R Langford
4   N Alexander-Walker
4   Coby White
4   K Johnson
   
5   R Hachimura
5   Talen Horton-Tucker
5   Louis King
5   Matisse Thybulle

5   Cameron Johnson
   
6   Dylan Windler
6   Bruno Fernando
6   Grant Williams
6   PJ Washington
6   Admiral Schofield
6   Tyler Hero
   
7   Tre Jones
7   Dedric Lawson
7   Carsen Edwards
7   Goga Bitadze
7   Daniel Gafford
7   Shamorie Ponds
7   Kevin Porter Jr
7   Chalres Bassey
7   Kris Wilkes
7   Deividas Sirvydis

put in bold the guys who I think could be a great value and are "my guys" in this draft.

Tier 4 and 5 im still not sold on and might great into another Tier. Clarke and Okpala I might break out into a higher tier above the rest of tier 4.

Tiers 6 and 7 are pretty fliud with 6 being guys I really feel confident have high enough floors not to fail

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2019, 05:25:04 PM »

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Having caught up with a lot more prospect during the tournament the following is my updated tiers

Tier   Player
1   Z Williamson
   
2   J Morant
2   RJ Barrett
   
3   J Culver
3   C Reddish
3   D Hunter
3   D Garland
   
4   J Hayes
4   Bol Bol * medicals are huge for him
4   B Clarke
4   N Little
4   S Doumbouya
4   KZ Okpala
4   R Langford
4   N Alexander-Walker
4   Coby White
4   K Johnson
   
5   R Hachimura
5   Talen Horton-Tucker
5   Louis King
5   Matisse Thybulle

5   Cameron Johnson
   
6   Dylan Windler
6   Bruno Fernando
6   Grant Williams
6   PJ Washington
6   Admiral Schofield
6   Tyler Hero
   
7   Tre Jones
7   Dedric Lawson
7   Carsen Edwards
7   Goga Bitadze
7   Daniel Gafford
7   Shamorie Ponds
7   Kevin Porter Jr
7   Chalres Bassey
7   Kris Wilkes
7   Deividas Sirvydis

put in bold the guys who I think could be a great value and are "my guys" in this draft.

Tier 4 and 5 im still not sold on and might great into another Tier. Clarke and Okpala I might break out into a higher tier above the rest of tier 4.

Tiers 6 and 7 are pretty fliud with 6 being guys I really feel confident have high enough floors not to fail

I think Reddish is ranked too high and Little too low

otherwise looks good

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2019, 05:49:21 PM »

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Carson Edwards can flat out ball and he seems to want to be a real point guard .

I think he is at least Larkin at min ...  He has the motor to play hard 35 minutes ....while Lebron is resting

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 05:55:18 PM »

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Carson Edwards can flat out ball and he seems to want to be a real point guard .

I think he is at least Larkin at min ...  He has the motor to play hard 35 minutes ....while Lebron is resting
He averages more turnovers than assists, so I'm not sure where the "real point guard" comment comes from. 

Re: Early thoughts on the Cetlics 2019 draft
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2019, 06:39:50 PM »

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Having caught up with a lot more prospect during the tournament the following is my updated tiers

Tier   Player
1   Z Williamson
   
2   J Morant
2   RJ Barrett
   
3   J Culver
3   C Reddish
3   D Hunter
3   D Garland
   
4   J Hayes
4   Bol Bol * medicals are huge for him
4   B Clarke
4   N Little
4   S Doumbouya
4   KZ Okpala
4   R Langford
4   N Alexander-Walker
4   Coby White
4   K Johnson
   
5   R Hachimura
5   Talen Horton-Tucker
5   Louis King
5   Matisse Thybulle

5   Cameron Johnson
   
6   Dylan Windler
6   Bruno Fernando
6   Grant Williams
6   PJ Washington
6   Admiral Schofield
6   Tyler Hero
   
7   Tre Jones
7   Dedric Lawson
7   Carsen Edwards
7   Goga Bitadze
7   Daniel Gafford
7   Shamorie Ponds
7   Kevin Porter Jr
7   Chalres Bassey
7   Kris Wilkes
7   Deividas Sirvydis

put in bold the guys who I think could be a great value and are "my guys" in this draft.

Tier 4 and 5 im still not sold on and might great into another Tier. Clarke and Okpala I might break out into a higher tier above the rest of tier 4.

Tiers 6 and 7 are pretty fliud with 6 being guys I really feel confident have high enough floors not to fail

I think Reddish is ranked too high and Little too low

otherwise looks good

I may create a tier between my current 3/4 for reddish, little and Clarke.

My logic in ranking reddish higher is his potential positional value. At 6’i-6’9 with a 7’1 wingspan and the potential to be a good outside shooter he profiles to have a high positional value. Ever team is looking for 3/4 type wings who they can “small ball” with while still retaining height and length on the court. I see him as a future Jeff green/H Barnes/ R gay type wing.

Little worries me because his physical profile should have led to more in court production. Much like Stanley Johnson he looks the part of an elite NBA prospect in every way except production. With that he also could prove to have a Jaylen Brown like rise and be one of the 3 best in this class a few years from now.

 

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