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Rozier audition a failure
« on: January 13, 2019, 12:02:30 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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With rumors that Orlando needs a point guard Rozier just blew his audition lowering his trade value.
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2019, 12:53:19 AM »

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very likely that informed teams already know what Rozier is at this point

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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2019, 12:56:41 AM »

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With rumors that Orlando needs a point guard Rozier just tanked his audition lowering his trade value.

Not sure if you mean he tanked it intentionally which would not make sense since he doesn't want to be a backup.

He WANTS to be a starter.

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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2019, 01:01:40 AM »

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We aren't trading Rozier to Orlando.

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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2019, 01:14:37 AM »

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With rumors that Orlando needs a point guard Rozier just blew his audition lowering his trade value.

Not sure if you mean he tanked it intentionally which would not make sense since he doesn't want to be a backup.

He WANTS to be a starter.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 01:32:29 AM »

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I'm not a fan of Rozier, to be perfectly honest.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2019, 02:01:22 AM »

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Trade value doesn’t fluctuate from game to game.  The other teams know what he is, which is not much.  I’ve always been content with losing rozier for nothing at the end of the year.  Now I’d be happy to give hi away for nothing before the year ends.  Addition by subtraction.

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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2019, 08:08:16 AM »

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He has to go. The bench unit needs a true PG, otherwise no way we make a difference with our 2nd squad. Terry is not a good player, no matter what the last year showed. He plays no D, has zero PG qualites.
DJ Augustine is someone who is I would like Danny to take a look at. Salaries match, and if we could get a pick with it that would be awsome.

It's not just this game, we simply doesn't fit right now. I trust danny will make the right decision in the right time.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2019, 08:52:57 AM »

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A good or bad performance does nothing for his trade value. Barring injury a player's value doesn't fluctuate from game-to-game. Teams know what Rozier is and what he isn't. He's going to get paid like a player that performs effectively when given starter's minutes. A bad performance in early January is insignificant.

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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2019, 09:00:07 AM »

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I am done with Rozier. all too often he dribbles the air out of the ball and takes an ill advised shot. all while Hayward and Brown are standing around and he doesnt even pass them the ball.

Im of the opinion that trading Rozier would be an addition by subtraction for the celtics. Allows Hayward to handle the ball more on the 2nd team. and opens up more shots for Hayward/Brown.

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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2019, 10:21:48 AM »

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Rozier is much better as a starting PG then he is as a back-up PG.  He is in fact a terrible back-up PG.
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Rozier is much better as a starting PG then he is as a back-up PG.  He is in fact a terrible back-up PG.

Yeah, I think this is pretty officially true. It really is odd.

I used to think that we signed Smart to a slightly above desired contract value to make sure he was available as a trade chip if we decided to keep Rozier instead. Well, if this is a competition between Smart and Rozier, then Smart is winning by a landslide. Hopefully Rozier finds all that he needs to once he departs Boston...because there is no way he is staying (except if Kyrie leaves).

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2019, 01:38:39 AM »

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Rozier is much better as a starting PG then he is as a back-up PG.  He is in fact a terrible back-up PG.

Yeah, I think this is pretty officially true. It really is odd.

I used to think that we signed Smart to a slightly above desired contract value to make sure he was available as a trade chip if we decided to keep Rozier instead. Well, if this is a competition between Smart and Rozier, then Smart is winning by a landslide. Hopefully Rozier finds all that he needs to once he departs Boston...because there is no way he is staying (except if Kyrie leaves).

some guys play worse after signing a big contract. Smart ia the opposite it looks like. I have no problem with his contract, but aome people do. Im thinking a lot of those people mightve already changed their minds.

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I just don't get all this blame towards now Rozier, tomorrow Brown, then the day after Kyrie, etc. All these players played high-level basketball last year together. We are forgetting that this team is the same. We have only Hayward jumping on the train. I will repeat all the time, these guys are great players, as well as Rozier. This team is great. They showed it to us last year. Brad Stevens has lost control on this team. It's the reason why our bench sucks, why our chemistry has been lost and why our best players are not showing what they know. They are not playing as a team. It's only Stevens and his staff that is responsible for that and Stevens knows that. Actually, he admit that on the press conf. in Orlando.

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I just don't get all this blame towards now Rozier, tomorrow Brown, then the day after Kyrie, etc. All these players played high-level basketball last year together. We are forgetting that this team is the same. We have only Hayward jumping on the train. I will repeat all the time, these guys are great players, as well as Rozier. This team is great. They showed it to us last year. Brad Stevens has lost control on this team. It's the reason why our bench sucks, why our chemistry has been lost and why our best players are not showing what they know. They are not playing as a team. It's only Stevens and his staff that is responsible for that and Stevens knows that. Actually, he admits that on the press conf. in Orlando.
Dear fellow Croat Iadera,
Brad didn't lose anything at all.
To me, our "struggles" are fairly simple. We are trying to do a lot of stuff all together at once.
Incorporating Hayward, developing youngsters like Tatum, Brown, Rozier, giving Irving his ball, giving deserving players more minutes (Smart, Morris), Still giving Al the ball, keeping assets for eventual AD trade and so on, all that while trying to keep everyone happy. Like juggling with 15 oranges, it is harder than with 4.
To understand this better, take a team with championship aspirations like Houston or OKC and compare them to what we are doing.
Houston has 1 (sometimes 2) great guy and a bunch of role players - scheme is that simple and therefore easier to execute.
If we had a team with Kyrie and bunch of role players, we would execute it also easier.
Our play would resemble that of Celtic season 2016-17 (53 win team). Good team but no cigar.
Or take OKC, Russ is the god (for good and bad), PG13 gets his and all else must fall in the line - simple as cooking beans.
We can't, or better said, won't choose that path. We have more longterm scenarios than those teams, who are locked onto their singular futures.
We keep our options opened.
They (OKC and Houston) hope for the best with superstar and role players.

Brads job is harder and that's it.
It is much easier not to play optimally with an ocean of possibilities and a list of must-dos.
You want to try more things and have a long agenda.

To me, there is a solace to this, a Bajadera. Once the season takes its toll on players bodies, injuries will start to tire players and deplete rosters.
Houston will once again falter with their one trick pony offense being read once more and Harden having an empty tank (remember last 5 years),
OKC will once again fail with RW as the decision maker in critical moments, they might even say once more than a guy like Robertson was missed.
And we, even if an injury happens to us (except to Kyrie and Al) we will then be better at the end of the year then we were this the whole season.
Just like we did in each of Stevens seasons, we get better as the season goes on.
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