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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 09:07:37 AM »

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honestly, a move need mad ASAP or the season will be wasted.


Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 09:11:38 AM »

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Horford is the only one who helps make his teammates better.

Tatum and Kyrie just take from others. Morris too. All too shot happy and/or ball-dominant.

Nobody is helping Jaylen find his groove in this new-look team. I am not mad at a young player for being inconsistent in this situation (Kyrie is the one I am most mad at - he is the vet).
What you are saying was true last night, but not in the previous 4 games when the ball was shared.
We just need to play that way consistently- not such easy task. 

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2019, 09:18:11 AM »

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Horford is the only one who helps make his teammates better.

Tatum and Kyrie just take from others. Morris too. All too shot happy and/or ball-dominant.

Nobody is helping Jaylen find his groove in this new-look team. I am not mad at a young player for being inconsistent in this situation (Kyrie is the one I am most mad at - he is the vet).
What you are saying was true last night, but not in the previous 4 games when the ball was shared.
We just need to play that way consistently- not such easy task.

What we need to do is not get so trigger happy from 3 and keep pounding it inside, make some cuts etc. The problem is, once a few shots dont fall, they hang their head and just keep shooting bad shots instead of upping their effort and move to the rack with a purpose

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2019, 09:31:07 AM »

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Way too jumpers taken, and not enough shots in paint... No effort, just shoot, lackadaisically defend, and hope it doesn't go in.

Sometimes I miss Bradley's full court press, because shooters like Tyler Johnson would've been shook, and not taking pull up, or one dribble 3's from 2 feet behind the 3.
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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2019, 09:49:12 AM »

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Celtics forward Marcus Morris relayed the importance of winning as his major long-term focus, according to A. Sherrod Blakely of NBC Sports. Morris, who’s making $5.3MM this season, is also set to become a free agent this summer. “That’s all I care about; winning,” Morris said. “That other stuff, the big-money contract, being in the conversation for All-Star, none of that happens if you’re not winning. So for me, that’s what all this is about, keeping finding ways to win.”

Well we know both Morris/Brown are competitors, this time maybe someone just rubbed the other person the wrong way.
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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2019, 09:50:15 AM »

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I don’t care about the shove.  Nonissue.

I do worry some about Jaylen’s headspace though.  I think he’s much more emotional than he appears, and it reflects in his play.  If he makes some plays, it snowballs and he turns into a monster.  If he doesn’t, it snowballs the other way with poor effort and mental mistakes.  And I’m not sure anybody on the team knows how to talk to him.  The vocal, confrontational style of Smart and Morris doesn’t appear to do it. 

Jackie MacMullan talked about it at length in an article last month.  I’ll dig that up tomorrow if anybody wants it.  The gist was that Jaylen is dealing with some mental adversity relating to his role and his production that he hasn’t conquered just yet, and my takeaway was that he’ll largely have to come to terms with that on his own.  His teammates can’t help him.
I buy this. He seems to have confidence issues and just needs something positive to get going. For example a couple of games ago when he dunked and flexed after it. Seemed like an odd thing at the time since Cs were losing but for whatever reason it actually made him play well.

But the opposite is true as well. When he doesn’t hit his first couple of shots and seems outside the flow of the game his game suffers, especially defensively. He just seems aloof in those situations. Might just be one of those maturity things young players go through but he seems to have more ups/downs with confidence than the other younger players on the team like Tatum (who’s almost stone faced all the time) or Rozier (the ultimate irrational confidence guy in the team).

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2019, 09:54:31 AM »

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I’m not sure it’s about players worried about getting theirs.  After all I believe we have been leading the league in assists for the last few weeks or so. 

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2019, 09:56:15 AM »

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I’m not sure it’s about players worried about getting theirs.  After all I believe we have been leading the league in assists for the last few weeks or so.
Yeah, Boston have the most 30 assist games in the league. Ahead of the Warriors.

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2019, 09:58:46 AM »

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WOW. The over reaction here is amazing. Have you not ever played any kind of basketball?
Even playing in an over 40 we sometimes got heated with each other.
Brown dogged it after missing a basket. Bet if you look hard enough, you can find a play where every player in the league has done the same thing. Get over it.
Morris got p---ed at him because he dogged it. Told him to stop dogging it. Get over it.
They yelled at each other because they were both mad and it turned into a push. No big deal.
If they are anything like the rest of us, they talked about it after the game and moved on.
I wouldn't be surprised if they even went out for a beer together after.
 

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2019, 10:02:19 AM »

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WOW. The over reaction here is amazing. Have you not ever played any kind of basketball?
Even playing in an over 40 we sometimes got heated with each other.
Brown dogged it after missing a basket. Bet if you look hard enough, you can find a play where every player in the league has done the same thing. Get over it.
Morris got p---ed at him because he dogged it. Told him to stop dogging it. Get over it.
They yelled at each other because they were both mad and it turned into a push. No big deal.
If they are anything like the rest of us, they talked about it after the game and moved on.
I wouldn't be surprised if they even went out for a beer together after.

Why do people always have the need to bring this up as their go to insult?

I've played competitive sports for plenty of years. Yes tension run high, but while this may be overblown, you should not put hands on a teammate like that. As Moranis said, if it was anyone else, probably would've chalked it up to teammates frustration. But Morris is a hot head and known for being aggressive at times.

Anyways this is overblown, and they all probably laughed about it later after a few beers and clam chowdahs.
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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2019, 10:03:23 AM »

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I think we should give Brown a little bit of a break.  He is a 21 year old kid that seems to have had some injuries this year (plantar fasciitis early November, back spasms late November, wrist recently) that we really don’t know the extent of or if still lingering holding him back in any way.   Think Morris early last year with the knee woes, but seems pretty healthy now. 

I say just be patient with him, and see how the rest of the year turns out.  It’s a long season.
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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2019, 10:06:26 AM »

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People will be quick to blame Morris because of his past, but he's not the only with a murky past. Brown got into it with Smart before... Then a few games ago, Smart yelled at Brown to stop whining and get back on defense... Now this. Coupled with the other stuff we've heard from Jackie Mac and Zach Lowe about Brown, I'm starting to see a common denominator here.
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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2019, 10:09:44 AM »

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At the 3 second mark Jaylen puts his hand to his head so he may have gotten hit in the head.

Funny, first impression I had on that clip was that Jaylen hit himself in the head because he blew the shot.

You could be right though.

Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2019, 10:11:22 AM »

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So we know Morris was mad about Brown not hustling back on D.  Seems justified based on the clip provided.  Morris is mad about it, yelling at Brown.  This we all know.

My theory from there is: Brown tried to make excuses and didn't own it when Morris confronted him.  "I was fouled on the other end."  "They got me on my bad wrist."  "I did hustle back."  "Don't tell me how to play basketball."  Something that didn't own up to it.  From my own experience, when you own it and just say "my bad" (and mean it) the argument mostly goes away.

So Brown got called out, and argued back instead of owning up to it.  That would be my guess.



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Re: Heated between Morris and Brown during timeout in Miami
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2019, 10:12:16 AM »

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I'm not concerned.  This happens in team sports all the time.  More often than not, behind closed doors at practice, but this happens with teams time to time.  You have a group of guys together close-knit, playing a competitive sport & altercations happen. They just do. The only reason its getting blown up was because it was during a game & it was caught on camera. 

The team laid an egg last night on the back end of a home/away back to back.  Not totally unexpected.   I still think, for the most part, this team is righting the ship.


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