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Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2018, 11:27:41 AM »

Offline RockinRyA

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may have never had a 3-point shot.  Crowder shot 40% from three the year before.  Brown's free throw shooting suggests he's never been a quality shooter.

Everyone is going to shoot higher percentages from the perimeter when you have a legitimate penetrating threat at point guard.

The season you're referring to (2016/17) Isaiah Thomas averaged almost 9 free throw attempts per game during the regular season.

To put this into perspective Kyrie is averaging just a hair over 3 free throw attempts per game this season - which is down from 4.4 attempts per game last season and subsequently the entire teams' 3p% have dropped. 

Marcus Smart - is averaging less than 2 FT attempts per game as the team's secondary ball handler.

One of the reasons Gordon Hayward RIP was going to be such a good fit with Kyrie is that for 3 years in Utah (2014-2017) he averaged 6 FTa per game (Lebron averaged a little over 7 FTa per game during his time on the Cavs with Kyrie).  This season Hayward is averaging a pedestrian 2.4 FTa per game.

Raw attempts per game is useless, because it doesnt show usage. You are going to have fewer FT attempts when you have less possession, which is bound to happen on a deep team like the Celtics. Freethrow rate is a better gauge.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2018, 11:50:29 AM »

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Jaylen Brown isn't going to be what some of you think. Other than being athletic, he looks uncomfortable on the floor too much of the time. Not all of the time, just too much of the time. He sometimes insists on putting the round peg in the square space...in his opinion, it's called being aggressive.

When he came out in the draft he came out with the same deficiencies he has now. Questionable shooting, poor free throw shooting, subpar ball handling, low BB IQ. That was the knock on his game. 

He has gotten better...but it's all offset by his up and down confidence issues. 

I like him, he's a good kid, a respectful, bright person. I'm hoping he finds his game.


Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2018, 12:02:17 PM »

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I don't know what the hell's wrong with him this year - too overconfident?  Read and believed he was the next superstar?  Something's not right in his head.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2018, 12:38:58 PM »

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Love how the forums discuss a player who just turned 22 and has played two-and-a-half seasons in the league as if he is a finished product.

Jeff Green? Ricky Davis? Really? Let the young guys develop and understand that ups and downs are to be expected at this stage.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2018, 01:27:06 PM »

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When he's unleashed, he plays like Westbrook. For example in the Bucks loss, he dunked on Giannis, hit a 3, got an and-1, to bring us from a 20 point deficit to around 15. He played with incredible bravery and heart, and was so clutch - but also made lots of boneheaded plays and missed free throws. A definite site to behold.

But when he plays timid, he's a bit more Jeff Green.

I think Stevens wants to get him on the right track when he's young. Westbrook's intensity, but with more basketball IQ. This regular season doesn't matter - we're in it for the long haul.

Today (from what I heard), we got a good balance. He's missing shots, but he played aggressive defense, which is exactly what we want.

Well put, exactly how I feel. He's better when he is definitively a top option out there. A completely different player even.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2018, 01:27:34 PM »

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Nobody has mentioned this but he was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis in early November, and lower back pain in late November.  If those injuries were lingering for any period of time it would certainly affect one’s shooting. 

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2018, 01:30:07 PM »

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may have never had a 3-point shot.  Crowder shot 40% from three the year before.  Brown's free throw shooting suggests he's never been a quality shooter.

I just don't buy that you can judge every player's shooting ability based on their free throw percentage. Shooting a three in the flow of a game and shooting a free throw by yourself with time to over think it are completely different things.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2018, 01:33:41 PM »

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What I noticed is that Jaylen's form is different this year. His body is not straight and squared up when he shoots his threes. He should watch some video of Ray Allen.
Brown's form is actually very good and pretty consistent but he looks off balance because he looks to be rushing the shot. It's definitely a confidence thing. He will need to get his head straight to get that confidence.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2018, 01:42:19 PM »

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may have never had a 3-point shot.  Crowder shot 40% from three the year before.  Brown's free throw shooting suggests he's never been a quality shooter.

I just don't buy that you can judge every player's shooting ability based on their free throw percentage. Shooting a three in the flow of a game and shooting a free throw by yourself with time to over think it are completely different things.

Yeah, shooting FTs can be awkward for some people. You are all alone with everybody looking and counting on you. Sure, they are easy shots, but they are far more mental than anything else.

Brown shot 40% over the course of an entire NBA season on 4.5 attempts a game. It wasn't college, it wasn't a 15-20 game stretch; it actually happened over a full season. He then went on to play 18 playoff games where he shot exactly the same percentage, but this time on 6.2 3PA/game. I refuse to believe he just can't shoot anymore.

With guys like Tatum or Kyrie, they will occasionally be so wide open that they take a moment to re-group before taking the shot. Of course it is a swish almost every time - and this should be the case for many players. However, with somebody like Brown (or Rozier), I want them elevating into their shot off the catch every time. Because they are rhythm players, they will only psych themselves out if they take a moment to think about the shot. Brown should go probably go back to focusing the corner  for his 3pt attempts and then expand his game from there.

Let's all hope that Brown can get back the confidence he had last year. For this to happen, he is probably going to need the confidence of his coach and teammates.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2018, 03:28:13 PM »

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may have never had a 3-point shot.  Crowder shot 40% from three the year before.  Brown's free throw shooting suggests he's never been a quality shooter.

I just don't buy that you can judge every player's shooting ability based on their free throw percentage. Shooting a three in the flow of a game and shooting a free throw by yourself with time to over think it are completely different things.

Yeah, shooting FTs can be awkward for some people. You are all alone with everybody looking and counting on you. Sure, they are easy shots, but they are far more mental than anything else.

Brown shot 40% over the course of an entire NBA season on 4.5 attempts a game. It wasn't college, it wasn't a 15-20 game stretch; it actually happened over a full season. He then went on to play 18 playoff games where he shot exactly the same percentage, but this time on 6.2 3PA/game. I refuse to believe he just can't shoot anymore.

With guys like Tatum or Kyrie, they will occasionally be so wide open that they take a moment to re-group before taking the shot. Of course it is a swish almost every time - and this should be the case for many players. However, with somebody like Brown (or Rozier), I want them elevating into their shot off the catch every time. Because they are rhythm players, they will only psych themselves out if they take a moment to think about the shot. Brown should go probably go back to focusing the corner  for his 3pt attempts and then expand his game from there.

Let's all hope that Brown can get back the confidence he had last year. For this to happen, he is probably going to need the confidence of his coach and teammates.

Even his rookie season, where is shot was more in question, he shot .345 which isn't terrible.

He's in his head and he has to figure out how to get out of it.
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Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2018, 06:22:22 PM »

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What I noticed is that Jaylen's form is different this year. His body is not straight and squared up when he shoots his threes. He should watch some video of Ray Allen.
Brown's form is actually very good and pretty consistent but he looks off balance because he looks to be rushing the shot. It's definitely a confidence thing. He will need to get his head straight to get that confidence.

He looks off balance because he is off balance.

It's not a confidence thing, it's a practice thing.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2018, 08:33:53 PM »

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What I noticed is that Jaylen's form is different this year. His body is not straight and squared up when he shoots his threes. He should watch some video of Ray Allen.
Brown's form is actually very good and pretty consistent but he looks off balance because he looks to be rushing the shot. It's definitely a confidence thing. He will need to get his head straight to get that confidence.

He looks off balance because he is off balance.

It's not a confidence thing, it's a practice thing.

Its confidence. There's no reason why your balance that was so on point last season, suddenly goes wonky. You could practice all you want, if your head isn't in it, you will miss when you shoot in the actual game. Anyone who has actually played basketball know this. This is why slumps happen even for the best of em.

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2018, 08:57:40 PM »

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So he needs to work on shooting with balance in practice.  It’s a skill that he needs to better commit to his muscle memory. 

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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2018, 09:14:43 PM »

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may have never had a 3-point shot.  Crowder shot 40% from three the year before.  Brown's free throw shooting suggests he's never been a quality shooter.

Jae Crowder who’s shot better than 81% from FT in his last three full seasons? That one?

Re: Jaylen Brown's three point shot
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2018, 10:20:23 PM »

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So he needs to work on shooting with balance in practice.  It’s a skill that he needs to better commit to his muscle memory.

Everyone knows it takes more than that. That's why a lot of the guys are good freethrow shooters in practice but sucks in game. Also why some are great at shootarounds but misses open shots in game. There's a mental aspect in this game no matter how much you guys try to ignore that.