Quote from: CelticsElite on November 24, 2018, 11:11:30 PM

This has little to do with brad Stevens. Look he isn’t perfect but he is not the core reason of our problem. Go look up what he said during training camp. “Our defense is bad we need work.” He didn’t even say it was ok. He didn’t mince words. He detected a big problem early in training camp. It’s his job to address the problem but the players have to do their part.

He wasn’t happy and basically could see where the arrow was pointed with this team. He wasn’t blinded by the talent. His initial detection and judgement from training camp was 100% spot on, meaning he’s a great coach. Most other coaches would have probably not see this type of problem so early before preseason games

So what you're saying is that he saw a problem early in the season, hasn't been able to do anything about it, but it's not his fault?

This is absolutely largely on Brad and the rest of the coaching staff, because this all very likely stems from the chemistry and pscyhological issues amongst the players that they simply haven't done anything to effectively address, which is one of their primary roles as coaches.

He's not managing his talent at all, and I'm convinced at this point that he just doesn't have those skills to manage talent of this magnitude, largely because he doesn't have the temperament or character to. He's as good as it gets at maximizing talent, but at this level that's not enough when you actually have the talent to work with.

The OP is right - the honeymoon is over. Right now he's wasting the most talent we've had in a decade, and if he doesn't get it right soon he absolutely will be on the hot seat.

Honeymoon is also over for Ainge. He assembled a mis-matched roster.

80% of our team plays the same position.

Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Morris are all small forwards who are either starters or play a large amount of minutes.

We have no shooting guard and 2 centers that are okay, but not great.

We need a shooting guard, a better center and less wing players.

This position-less basketball is starting to get ridiculous.

Honeymoon is also over for Ainge. He assembled a mis-matched roster.

80% of our team plays the same position.

Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Morris are all small forwards who are either starters or play a large amount of minutes.

We have no shooting guard and 2 centers that are okay, but not great.

We need a shooting guard, a better center and less wing players.

This position-less basketball is starting to get ridiculous.

Quote from: gpap on November 24, 2018, 11:25:39 PM

Honeymoon is also over for Ainge. He assembled a mis-matched roster.

80% of our team plays the same position.

Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Morris are all small forwards who are either starters or play a large amount of minutes.

We have no shooting guard and 2 centers that are okay, but not great.

We need a shooting guard, a better center and less wing players.

This position-less basketball is starting to get ridiculous.

We have a shooting guard in Jaylen who's underutilized and three big men in Baynes, Theis and Williams who all have different skillsets and can be used to hold down the position by committee. Sure it's not ideal but you'd expect Brad Stevens, one of the brightest minds in the NBA to make it work with his ideology of positionless basketball.

Quote from: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:28:11 PM

Quote from: gpap on November 24, 2018, 11:25:39 PM

Honeymoon is also over for Ainge. He assembled a mis-matched roster.

80% of our team plays the same position.

Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Morris are all small forwards who are either starters or play a large amount of minutes.

We have no shooting guard and 2 centers that are okay, but not great.

We need a shooting guard, a better center and less wing players.

This position-less basketball is starting to get ridiculous.

We have a shooting guard in Jaylen who's underutilized and three big men in Baynes, Theis and Williams who all have different skillsets and can be used to hold down the position by committee. Sure it's not ideal but you'd expect Brad Stevens, one of the brightest minds in the NBA to make it work with his ideology of positionless basketball.

I just don't think Jaylen Brown is a shooting guard. I think he's anything but.

He's a small forward who relies alot on his athleticism but doesn't have a consistent jump shot, not a great free throw shooter and still doesn't have a great feel for the game.

Played well tonight, but it didn't really matter.

Quote from: Somebody on November 24, 2018, 11:28:11 PM

Quote from: gpap on November 24, 2018, 11:25:39 PM

Honeymoon is also over for Ainge. He assembled a mis-matched roster.

80% of our team plays the same position.

Hayward, Tatum, Brown and Morris are all small forwards who are either starters or play a large amount of minutes.

We have no shooting guard and 2 centers that are okay, but not great.

We need a shooting guard, a better center and less wing players.

This position-less basketball is starting to get ridiculous.

We have a shooting guard in Jaylen who's underutilized and three big men in Baynes, Theis and Williams who all have different skillsets and can be used to hold down the position by committee. Sure it's not ideal but you'd expect Brad Stevens, one of the brightest minds in the NBA to make it work with his ideology of positionless basketball.

I just don't think Jaylen Brown is a shooting guard. I think he's anything but.

He's a small forward who relies alot on his athleticism but doesn't have a consistent jump shot, not a great free throw shooter and still doesn't have a great feel for the game.

Played well tonight, but it didn't really matter.