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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2018, 04:05:54 PM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2018, 05:22:11 PM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.

It’s kinda funny that before the season, most of us expected a bit of a slow start. Then we have just that (but all losses were close until the final minutes) and people want to change everything.

It doesn’t take Ainge and CBS to not do some of these crazy propositions, any sane front office wouldn’t. 95% of fanbases wouldn’t suggest these ridiculous ideas.
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2018, 05:44:25 PM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.

It’s kinda funny that before the season, most of us expected a bit of a slow start. Then we have just that (but all losses were close until the final minutes) and people want to change everything.

It doesn’t take Ainge and CBS to not do some of these crazy propositions, any sane front office wouldn’t. 95% of fanbases wouldn’t suggest these ridiculous ideas.
It’s also not unlike us under CBS to start off slow, as our teams are typically quite different year to year. The panic takes truly are funny
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2018, 05:48:50 PM »

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Phil had Jordan & Pippen..Shaq & Kobe..Brad dont

End thread.

At least, until there’s some actual analysis comparing the two. Brad has never had a top-10 player. Phil had four top-50 players of all-time, including the GOTME. (Greatest Of The Modern Era).


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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2018, 06:59:59 PM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.

It’s kinda funny that before the season, most of us expected a bit of a slow start. Then we have just that (but all losses were close until the final minutes) and people want to change everything.

It doesn’t take Ainge and CBS to not do some of these crazy propositions, any sane front office wouldn’t. 95% of fanbases wouldn’t suggest these ridiculous ideas.

I'm not sure about this. I recall quite a few people saying they expected Hayward, and to a lesser extent Kyrie, to start slow because of missing so much time last season. But as for the team overall, my impression was that most people here were expecting Boston to cruise to 60+ wins.
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2018, 07:25:10 PM »

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im not in a panic mode ,   things will get better first of the year once the guys get back in play n shape.

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2018, 07:36:22 PM »

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Phil Jackson only coached loaded teams, he was too cowardly to try to build a winner.

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2018, 07:53:07 PM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.

It’s kinda funny that before the season, most of us expected a bit of a slow start. Then we have just that (but all losses were close until the final minutes) and people want to change everything.

It doesn’t take Ainge and CBS to not do some of these crazy propositions, any sane front office wouldn’t. 95% of fanbases wouldn’t suggest these ridiculous ideas.

I'm not sure about this. I recall quite a few people saying they expected Hayward, and to a lesser extent Kyrie, to start slow because of missing so much time last season. But as for the team overall, my impression was that most people here were expecting Boston to cruise to 60+ wins.
Celtics could still cruise to 60 wins. They haven't played many of the sad sisters of the league yet. They have played Philly, Toronto, Milwaukee, Indy, Denver, OKC, and a mediocre Detroit team twice. They had a bad loss to Orlando which if they had won would put them at 7-3 against a tough start to the year schedule. Once they start clicking, I could easily see a 10+ game winning streak or something like a 22-3 run.

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2018, 11:06:54 PM »

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No, he's far more humble.

I'm not happy with how they're playing, but this is a major overreaction.  We're only ten games into the season.

This entire forum is a hot take machine right now. It's much easier to just avoid the entire forum until the season settles down.

And you know we'll have people screaming about how we need a set rotation and Brad keeps running ridiculous lineups, just for the rotation to get set around January and some of the "ridiculous lineups" to turn into secret weapons and earn Brad praise from the same people in June. Then we'll rinse and repeat next year

So true! You know those Sox will lose to the Yankees, Astros..Dodgers 😁🍷 Celtics definitely stand no chance with that amazing coach at the reins! Teams take time to gel...this one is no different no matter the talent.

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2018, 12:27:05 AM »

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So after 10 games we’re in wrist slitting mode already? :o
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2018, 03:06:03 AM »

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I would just add that Phil Collins is no Phil Jackson.
"The joy of the balling under the rims."

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2018, 03:44:16 AM »

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Phil had Jordan & Pippen..Shaq & Kobe..Brad dont

End thread.

At least, until there’s some actual analysis comparing the two. Brad has never had a top-10 player. Phil had four top-50 players of all-time, including the GOTME. (Greatest Of The Modern Era).
GOTME - i like the term
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2018, 04:48:19 AM »

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The amount of panic threads on this site simply because the Celtics didn't start the season red hot and clicking on all cylinders is kinda astonishing.

Bench Brown and Tatum.
Trade Kyrie.
Trade Morris.
Stevens doesn't know how to coach good players.
Send Hayward to the G League.

Geesh. Thank God the Celtics have Stevens and Ainge and know not to do crazy, panicking things because a season and playoffs is a marathon, not a sprint.

It’s kinda funny that before the season, most of us expected a bit of a slow start. Then we have just that (but all losses were close until the final minutes) and people want to change everything.

It doesn’t take Ainge and CBS to not do some of these crazy propositions, any sane front office wouldn’t. 95% of fanbases wouldn’t suggest these ridiculous ideas.

I'm not sure about this. I recall quite a few people saying they expected Hayward, and to a lesser extent Kyrie, to start slow because of missing so much time last season. But as for the team overall, my impression was that most people here were expecting Boston to cruise to 60+ wins.

If we start to play a little better, let’s say we go 7-3 over our next 10. Then a little better, let’s say 8-2. That’s a 15-5 stretch, and would put us on 57-58 wins. I wouldn’t rule out 60 wins just yet. They can go on a nice run soon or in January that put us back on that pace (where we were just two games ago). At 6-2 and coming off defeating Milwaukee, we were all feeling good. Then a loss on a buzzer-beater and another in high-altitude against a 9-1 team backed by a career-game. If those two things happened in February, nobody would blink.

It’s really just so early and a 6-4 start is really not that big of a deal.

Kyrie did start slow. He’s picked it up, he’s looked really good. Gordon is still getting there. Horford is shooting career lows from field and deep. Tatum and Brown significant drops in percentages from last season. Smart 18.5% from deep.

These are starts that are unlikely to continue for much longer. They will get going soon.
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Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2018, 05:59:26 AM »

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I would just add that Phil Collins is no Phil Jackson.
Haha!  That needed to be added :D

Re: Brad Stevens is No Phil Jackson
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2018, 08:05:06 AM »

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 Time for Mr Perfect Coach Stevens to get his share of the blame. So he's great with Scrubs and underachievers. He preaches ball movement and wants everyone to share the ball.

 Well that's not how titles are won Brad. At some point when you have the big Egos you have to manage and motivate them properly. It's not easy.

 Brad is not an Alpha coach. It's becoming a big problem. He has to make changes. He's doing nothing. Step up your game Coach. Bench Hayward or Kyrie.

 We are 14 and 14 in the last 28 games Kyrie has started. Start Rozier. Do something. Light a fire. Go back to the starters last year.
that is because Kyrie's game has never been one of truly winning basketball.  He just doesn't affect the win and loss column very much.  This is much more a Kyrie issue than a Brad issue.

 

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